Teasy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Transfer request was pr for Ashley. Carroll agreed for £££ and because at that point he had probably made up his mind. Carroll handing in a transfer request will have cost him a fortune, he hasn't done that for PR. Presumably it costs him a little less than the extra dosh he'll make from his salary at Liverpool over the life of the contract. Right that explains why he wanted to leave and handed in a transfer request to get the move, how does that explain why he'd do it for Ashley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 To make it worse. Jim "transfer day" fucking white is o SSN. Just hope we get someone in up front. Fucking awful day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 2007: DONE DEAL Well midfielder Stephen Ireland has now completed his loan move until the end of the season from Aston Villa to Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 As every minute goes by , I'm thinking more and more about how bad this deal was for us the supporters. We'll not see that money fully re-invested, no one should kid themselves on that score. Even if we see a quarter of it, it'll be spunked on some overprice has been or never was. Thank god we have 30 points already in the bank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 £35m is ridiculous cash. From a neutral pov, the only downside is the lack of time in the window to replace him. Obviously you'll be gutted he wanted out since he's a local lad etc. NUFC haven't done badly out of it at all though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 955: I was speaking to a football agent last week, and he told me that if clubs wanted to wrap up deals in time to beat the 2300 GMT deadline for transfers, they really needed to have the player undergoing a medical by 2000 GMT so as to get the assessment done and dusted in time to get the required forms off to the Premier League. Consider this your five minute warning people. The FA do anything they want, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I think the only thing we'll get out of this sky's deadline day coverage is fucking tinnitus. JIM LOVES LAMP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 2007: DONE DEAL Well midfielder Stephen Ireland has now completed his loan move until the end of the season from Aston Villa to Newcastle. Day gets worse. Still now Carroll's gone I don't care anymore, we need bodies now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I love the way people don't believe anything the papers/journos say, even though on an awful lot of occasions since Ashley took over they've been correct with stories we all thought bollocks, but believe everything "official", from a club that have been proven to be liars. If Ashley is lying then Carroll or his agent will let us know and then Ashley will get all of the shit he deserves thrown at him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Fat Mike is rather good at selling the clubs assets on transfer deadline day and (conveniently) not giving himself time to get quality replacements in, isn't he! He simply just had to say "no mike, I don't won't to leave". Handing in a transfer request makes absolutely no sense what so ever if he was going to be sold anyway. Mike could quite easily have said, No, Andrew, I will not allow you to leave, your transfer request is refused. This is not unheard of in the world of professional football. Wonder why Liverpool didn't try that cunning plan with Torres. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Elmander, not great but would be a slight step up from the rest of our forwards Short-sighted as fuck (I don't mean you btw). Was garbage before this season. Mark Viduka, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 What kind of money will Carroll have given up by putting in a transfer request? Not if MA asked him to put it in to ease the backlash. Easily as plausible as any other suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 With Carroll to Liverpool and Torres to Chelsea, I still think there's one last twist in this tale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 £35m is ridiculous cash. From a neutral pov, the only downside is the lack of time in the window to replace him. Obviously you'll be gutted he wanted out since he's a local lad etc. NUFC haven't done badly out of it at all though. What did Everton do with the Rooney cash? If we can get several £7-8m players in the summer and a good solid striker we might come out of this ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 think carroll been told to had a transfer req by the club .so theres not as much backlash on ashley etc.what uz think? agreed Yeah, Carroll wanted to be hated just to save Ashleys ass... Ashley needed to keep the goodwill of fans more than Carol. as carol has left and dosnt need to sell season tickets here. Ashley would have simply said were accepting 35mil- yr getting 80k a week- but we need a transfer request to excuse us. cant see how people cant accept this. Of course, its the least reasonable explanation for the situation and based on nothing but the hatred some people have for Ashley, obviously everyone should accept it Also love the "Ashley needed to keep the goodwill of fans", that's comedy gold Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If Carroll wasn't a Geordie and was at a different club how many people would be saying that this was a bad deal for the selling club? My guess is none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I just hope somehow he fails the medical and has to come back here with his tail between his legs. We'll still lose him in the summer but we're so fucked atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polpolpol Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I'll keep repeating this: It is typical in a players contract that they get a loyalty bonus when they leave, unless they submit a transfer request. This is why Milner submitted a transfer request. There is evidence to suggest that it is club policy to obtain a written transfer request where possible to avoid this payment. Like the dispute with Barton when we got him http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-pay-barton-loyalty-fee-to-complete-deal-453152.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Am hoping very likely in vain that we'll end up with Sturridge. It'll probably be more like Jon Walters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 With Carroll to Liverpool and Torres to Chelsea, I still think there's one last twist in this tale. Yeah but that twist will probably be to our collective bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mimifrench Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Why did Newcastle accept the offer ? And why did Andy Carroll acccept to join Liverpool which will probably finish lower in the league than Newcastle ? I thought he loved your club and was a "geordie" . Maybe i was wrong ... Money seems to be stronger than the "love of the shirt" (sorry i don't know how to translate it correctly). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 #Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners from danwalkerbbc So why was a £35m bid rejected then.. It wasnt. They released that we rejected their 2nd offer & gave no details on what that was, we may well have accepted a 3rd by that point & been calming a backlash. Its common sense. Common sense?, really? Its common sense to say that we hadn't rejected a bid, because we probably, maybe, perhaps had accepted a third bid, so Carroll then asked to leave instead of just leaving and picking up his part of the transfer? That's common sense now? You've tangled up your own thoughts there. Im purely saying that we simply released that we'd turned down a 2nd offer. The idea that this meant a deal was off the table or hadnt already been agreed since that point is all assumptions. David craig was making a point of saying Ashley was resisting selling as much as he could, as if he was "trying his best" & a further way to back this up would be to leak that we'd turned down 2 offers in a row. The point of all of this is to calm a backlash from fans aggravated that we'd given away our best player easily. They were just trying to suggest everywhere that we were trying hard to keep him, which is what you're being lead to think. The fact that we made no attempt to take any deal off the table & were quiet all day suggests the opposite. I'm mixing up my thoughts? Mate I was just emphasising how mixed up your post was. Also yet again what you're saying doesn't fit in with the transfer request. We might already have accepted a third bid before announcing that we'd refused the second bid?, so then why the transfer request? If we'd accepted a bid why the f*** would Carroll then put in a transfer request? If he put it in before the third bid.. if there even was one, then again it comes back to us rejected a bid, him handing in a request, then us accepted the next bid. Again Carroll asked to leave after we rejected a bid. Yes? The 2nd bid could have happened hours before reported & Carroll may have handed in his request etc before we'd even reported it. Carroll asked to leave whilst we were likely playing games with Liverpool to get them to reach our valuation. The claim is that he wanted to leave for whatever reason when we leaked we were willing to accept 35 mill, so he puts in said transfer request. Pool reach the asking price and there you go. We release delayed statement about 2nd bid to calm backlash, deal is potentially already done behind the scenes. Maybe not, just possible is all. The initial reaction is that things happen when reported, im just saying thats an assumption & we have no idea what happened. David craig was basically fed lines all night like a puppet. Move on now anyway, may aswell leave it be & start trying to find some positivity out of it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Am hoping very likely in vain that we'll end up with Sturridge. It'll probably be more like Jon Walters. He's joined Bolton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If Carroll wasn't a Geordie and was at a different club how many people would be saying that this was a bad deal for the selling club? My guess is none. I was looking at other clubs forums earlier and everyone of them were calling us mad for rejecting the initial £30m bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 £35m is ridiculous cash. From a neutral pov, the only downside is the lack of time in the window to replace him. Obviously you'll be gutted he wanted out since he's a local lad etc. NUFC haven't done badly out of it at all though. What did Everton do with the Rooney cash? If we can get several £7-8m players in the summer and a good solid striker we might come out of this ok. didnt they use Marcus Bent up front for a season afterward? or was that before Rooney came along? they did alright with Bent though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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