High Five o Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If Carroll wasn't a Geordie and was at a different club how many people would be saying that this was a bad deal for the selling club? My guess is none. Agree. Ashley is still a cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanegg Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Still can't get over this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 What kind of money will Carroll have given up by putting in a transfer request? Well into 6 figures imo but as I have said the agent just adds to slate at the other end. It is all about NUFC saving money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I can see him playing in Liverpool's next game. What injury? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Still no explanation as to why he handed in a transfer request. Does it not maker more sense that we actually DID reject the bids, Caroll decides he wants a payrise - hands in a transfer request, leaving little option but to accept bid? Ive been over it enough times tbf I dont doubt that we rejected the bids, it means very little. We made liverpool fully aware that A deal was on the table & that we were willing to sell. They had the money coming in to match what we wanted, they knew we knew that & had little room to negotiate because of that. Yes Carrolls at fault for handing in a request. Whether for reasons of wanting a much higher wage or being disillusioned by us being so willing to let him go. Either way he should have done better by us fans & for the team he loves. He didnt, he let us down & went for the money. Both Ashley & Carroll have let us down. The transfer is poor news for us, hopefully we will make a positive somehow. It gets tiring having all this positive progression knocked away for no reason though & Ashley is a common theme. I thought you're opinion was that Carroll had been pushed into putting in a transfer request by Mike Ashley as a PR exercise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 think carroll been told to had a transfer req by the club .so theres not as much backlash on ashley etc.what uz think? agreed Yeah, Carroll wanted to be hated just to save Ashleys ass... Ashley needed to keep the goodwill of fans more than Carol. as carol has left and dosnt need to sell season tickets here. Ashley would have simply said were accepting 35mil- yr getting 80k a week- but we need a transfer request to excuse us. cant see how people cant accept this. Of course, its the least reasonable explanation for the situation and based on nothing but the hatred some people have for Ashley, obviously everyone should accept it Also love the "Ashley needed to keep the goodwill of fans", that's comedy gold he had to save face man- season ticket renewals. Cant believe some so-called newcastle fans fall for this shit time and again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Ashley doesn't give a fuck about us man. Look at the treatment of Keegan, Hughton, etc. If he wanted to sell Carroll he'd have just sold him. I'm sure a few hundred people calling him nasty names outside St James' on Saturday again won't have too much affect on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If Carroll wasn't a Geordie and was at a different club how many people would be saying that this was a bad deal for the selling club? My guess is none. How many of those clubs owners would have thought ahead and had a plan in place? All of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Fat Mike is rather good at selling the clubs assets on transfer deadline day and (conveniently) not giving himself time to get quality replacements in, isn't he! He simply just had to say "no mike, I don't won't to leave". Handing in a transfer request makes absolutely no sense what so ever if he was going to be sold anyway. Mike could quite easily have said, No, Andrew, I will not allow you to leave, your transfer request is refused. This is not unheard of in the world of professional football. In 1959, George Eastham did not sign a new contract with his club, Newcastle United, and requested a transfer. Newcastle United refused his request. Eastham refused to play for Newcastle United in the 1959-60 season, and found other employment instead. In October 1960, Newcastle United finally agreed to transfer Eastham to Arsenal for £47,500. Nevertheless, backed by the Professional Footballers' Association, which provided financial assistance to pay for his legal fees, Eastham brought proceedings against Newcastle United in the High Court. The case was decided in 1963. In his decision, the judge criticized the "retain" aspects of the system. In response, the Football League modified the system, dispensing with the "retain" elements of the system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Why did Newcastle accept the offer ? And why did Andy Carroll acccept to join Liverpool which will probably finish lower in the league than Newcastle ? I thought he loved your club and was a "geordie" . Maybe i was wrong ... Money seems to be stronger than the "love of the shirt" (sorry i don't know how to translate it correctly). Don't read tonight Mimi.. We're all depressed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 i'm sure some people are just taking the piss in here now. Carroll wanted to go. deal with it. he ain't a geordie hero. he is like every other footballer. Gone to triple his wages. fuck him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Am hoping very likely in vain that we'll end up with Sturridge. It'll probably be more like Jon Walters. He's joined Bolton. Like I said, in vain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Ashley doesn't give a f*** about us man. Look at the treatment of Keegan, Hughton, etc. If he wanted to sell Carroll he'd have just sold him. I'm sure a few hundred people calling him nasty names outside St James' on Saturday again won't have too much affect on him. It'd happen with or without Carroll anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 United will achieve nothing while the FCB owns the club. A properly run club with ambition would have made it clear to all the best young players that the club would build the team around them. With Carroll gone the likes of Tiotti, Enrique, Ben Arfur etcwill be looking over their shoulders. We are getting rid of our best striker and keeping players who aren't as good. We might buy a new player before the window but lets see what kind of quality he represents. To think it wasn't that long ago Newcastle were signing Shearer for a big fee. We have now reverted back to the days when we sold the likes of Waddle, Beardsley and Gasgoine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Why did Newcastle accept the offer ? And why did Andy Carroll acccept to join Liverpool which will probably finish lower in the league than Newcastle ? I thought he loved your club and was a "geordie" . Maybe i was wrong ... Money seems to be stronger than the "love of the shirt" (sorry i don't know how to translate it correctly). Very apt putting the word geordie in quotes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 955: I was speaking to a football agent last week, and he told me that if clubs wanted to wrap up deals in time to beat the 2300 GMT deadline for transfers, they really needed to have the player undergoing a medical by 2000 GMT so as to get the assessment done and dusted in time to get the required forms off to the Premier League. Consider this your five minute warning people. The FA do anything they want, man. Arshavin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 i'm sure some people are just taking the piss in here now. Carroll wanted to go. deal with it. he ain't a geordie hero. he is like every other footballer. Gone to triple his wages. fuck him Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Why did Newcastle accept the offer ? And why did Andy Carroll acccept to join Liverpool which will probably finish lower in the league than Newcastle ? I thought he loved your club and was a "geordie" . Maybe i was wrong ... Money seems to be stronger than the "love of the shirt" (sorry i don't know how to translate it correctly). Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 From the Guardian 8.15pm: Andrew Lane has this tittle tattle: "Just a rumour on some NUFC chat, £17m for Bendtner. Heard anything? £17m is way too much for him!!" You're the first Andrew. Thanks. Keep you posted. I'm sure it's balls, but it's a hideous thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If Carroll wasn't a Geordie and was at a different club how many people would be saying that this was a bad deal for the selling club? My guess is none. I was looking at other clubs forums earlier and everyone of them were calling us mad for rejecting the initial £30m bid. Yeah, let's see what their opinion of Carroll's replacement is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I like Bendtner, but £17m is double what I'd pay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 i'm sure some people are just taking the piss in here now. Carroll wanted to go. deal with it. he ain't a geordie hero. he is like every other footballer. Gone to triple his wages. f*** him Sadly, that seems the case. He was tapped up. Still, Ashley could've rejected the bid.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Chopra is the man in talks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If Carroll wasn't a Geordie and was at a different club how many people would be saying that this was a bad deal for the selling club? My guess is none. I was looking at other clubs forums earlier and everyone of them were calling us mad for rejecting the initial £30m bid. Other fans know f*** all about our situation and are stupid enough to believe we'll a) See the full 35million re-invested b) Pardew will chose the replacement wisely. I respect the opinion of other NUFC fans on our club 99 times out of 100 over some other fans. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, we had a great player who would only get better, now we are stuck probably looking at inferior overpaid has beens or never was's. Selling only makes sense if you have a plan B and we don't have the peopel at the club to have a clue how to formulate one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Chopra is the man in talks. Piss take Shirley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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