Leazes1986 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Sorry lads I don't know anything really It wouldn't surprise me if we signed Chopra though knowing this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotheed Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 This is why Asprilla has been hanging round the training ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Saha? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Saha? If there's very little money involved it may be a decent stop-gap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I love the way people don't believe anything the papers/journos say, even though on an awful lot of occasions since Ashley took over they've been correct with stories we all thought bollocks, but believe everything "official", from a club that have been proven to be liars. You mean the same journo's who said before the transfer "We've heard Carroll wants to leave". Now they're saying "He didn't want to leave" but we're supposed to believe these paragons of virtue? We don't need to believe one side or the other, just make up our own minds. Unless you're a fantasist its pretty easy to see what's happened here. We didn't want to sell (of course we'd always be willing to sell at a certain price, everything's for sale), but Carroll got itchy feet and asked to leave. At which point we accepted the already excellent deal on the table. No point in rejecting what is a fantastic offer if the players wants to go. Why we have to bring in Area 51 levels of insane conspiracy into what's a fairly clear situation is beyond me. teasy regardless of the order of the events. Are we selling the clubs best striker? Are you happy about this? Do you think 50k fans deserve better? Where does this leave Ashleys 5year plan? Do you believe the club will progress under Ashleys ownership? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wally_McFool Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 We have now reverted back to the days when we sold the likes of Waddle, Beardsley and Gasgoine. My thoughts entirely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Saha? If there's very little money involved it may be a decent stop-gap. Seems certain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 f***ing hell, I don't want us to sign players just for the sake of it. I rather we get the right players in, not Chopra or Cole or Heskey, f***'s sake spend the money wisely. safe the money until summer....spent wisely! Think Bendtner would be a good replacement....for 10 mill. or so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Say what you like about Shepherd, he would never ever have let this happen. Remember the Dyer saga? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 May have been posted 5 times already Alan Shearer on Andy Carroll on BBC Five Live: "Off the field he has been in trouble once or twice before - that would be the major area of concern for me. I spoke to Kenny months ago before he even came to Liverpool about the potential of Carroll. Kenny got myself and Chris Sutton and myself and Mike Newell together at Blackburn and he probably sees Carroll and Suarez as a similar partnership - both can score goals. Andy Carroll is unplayable on his day. We might see Charlie Adam there and with Steven Gerrard and his tremendous right foot - if you get balls into box for those guys it will be a hell of a partnership." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Ashley rejected 35 million pounds and only accepted when it became clear AC wanted to go to Liverpool.I'm not sure what he was supposed to do in that situation,that would benefit us more than what he has done. What Ashley should have done is prove to the best young players at United that he wants to make Newcastle a well run, ambitious club which would show ambition and build a good quality team around them. But the fat, ugly , smug, hideous piece of cockney scum hasn't either the ability or first clue to know how to make it happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Would really rather Carroll had gone to Man U instead of fucking Liverpool man for fuck sake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 #Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners from danwalkerbbc So why was a £35m bid rejected then.. It wasnt. They released that we rejected their 2nd offer & gave no details on what that was, we may well have accepted a 3rd by that point & been calming a backlash. Its common sense. Common sense?, really? Its common sense to say that we hadn't rejected a bid, because we probably, maybe, perhaps had accepted a third bid, so Carroll then asked to leave instead of just leaving and picking up his part of the transfer? That's common sense now? You've tangled up your own thoughts there. Im purely saying that we simply released that we'd turned down a 2nd offer. The idea that this meant a deal was off the table or hadnt already been agreed since that point is all assumptions. David craig was making a point of saying Ashley was resisting selling as much as he could, as if he was "trying his best" & a further way to back this up would be to leak that we'd turned down 2 offers in a row. The point of all of this is to calm a backlash from fans aggravated that we'd given away our best player easily. They were just trying to suggest everywhere that we were trying hard to keep him, which is what you're being lead to think. The fact that we made no attempt to take any deal off the table & were quiet all day suggests the opposite. I'm mixing up my thoughts? Mate I was just emphasising how mixed up your post was. Also yet again what you're saying doesn't fit in with the transfer request. We might already have accepted a third bid before announcing that we'd refused the second bid?, so then why the transfer request? If we'd accepted a bid why the f*** would Carroll then put in a transfer request? If he put it in before the third bid.. if there even was one, then again it comes back to us rejected a bid, him handing in a request, then us accepted the next bid. Again Carroll asked to leave after we rejected a bid. Yes? The 2nd bid could have happened hours before reported & Carroll may have handed in his request etc before we'd even reported it. Carroll asked to leave whilst we were likely playing games with Liverpool to get them to reach our valuation. The claim is that he wanted to leave for whatever reason when we leaked we were willing to accept 35 mill, so he puts in said transfer request. Pool reach the asking price and there you go. We release delayed statement about 2nd bid to calm backlash, deal is potentially already done behind the scenes. Maybe not, just possible is all. The initial reaction is that things happen when reported, im just saying thats an assumption & we have no idea what happened. David craig was basically fed lines all night like a puppet. Move on now anyway, may aswell leave it be & start trying to find some positivity out of it all. Again this story doesn't fit together.. Why would he put in a transfer request? We tell Liverpool we'll accept £35m and they're going to bid that, Carroll hears and decides to put in a transfer request, WHY? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 RIDE ME RIDE ME RIDE ME! As he's f***ed off this did actually happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Say what you like about Shepherd, he would never ever have let this happen. Remember the Dyer saga? Aye, only time in the club's modern histrory where we didn't flog our best players. Maybe NE5 had a point after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Wonder if Carroll will go off the rails without Nolan by his side? My bet is on Glenn Johnson being the first one Carroll twats! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If Carroll wasn't a Geordie and was at a different club how many people would be saying that this was a bad deal for the selling club? My guess is none. How many of those clubs owners would have thought ahead and had a plan in place? All of them. The club can't win really, can they. Imagine the shit-storm if they'd have had a replacement seemingly lined up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Say what you like about Shepherd, he would never ever have let this happen. Remember the Dyer saga? Woodgate has already been mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Say what you like about Shepherd, he would never ever have let this happen. Remember the Dyer saga? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Ashley rejected 35 million pounds and only accepted when it became clear AC wanted to go to Liverpool.I'm not sure what he was supposed to do in that situation,that would benefit us more than what he has done. What Ashley should have done is prove to the best young players at United that he wants to make Newcastle a well run, ambitious club which would show ambition and build a good quality team around them. But the fat, ugly , smug, hideous piece of cockney scum hasn't either the ability or first clue to know how to make it happen If giving the younger players on long-term contract, talking to Enrique & Barton to stay longer, buying Tiote, Ben Arfa & Ireland wasn't enough for him at this stage of us getting back in the Premier League then I'm not sure what is tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 How quickly have all the Andy Carroll avatars and sigs disappeared, by the way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Say what you like about Shepherd, he would never ever have let this happen. Remember the Dyer saga? Woodgate has already been mentioned. Woodgate was a good deal, it's the fact we gave that money to Souness was the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mimifrench Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 According to his price Carroll is nearly 8 times better than Ben Arfa lol... But don't be sad, Newcastle has other very good players who love the club. And don't forget that Ben Arfa will come back soon... and he can play as an "attaquant" too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 We have now reverted back to the days when we sold the likes of Waddle, Beardsley and Gasgoine. My thoughts entirely We have now reverted back to the days when we sold the likes of Waddle, Beardsley and Gasgoine. My thoughts entirely The parrells are there. Can't remeber what happened to the Waddle money, don't think it was re-invested, it wasn't a huge sum anyway 500k I think. Beardsley's money went on a new stand. Gazza's was invested in 4 players that on paper looked good, but for whatever reason didn't click at SJP and we ended up getting relegated that season. Hope we can buck the trend and actually re-invest wisely but I doubt we have the people in the power positions that have the ability to identify talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Say what you like about Shepherd, he would never ever have let this happen. Remember the Dyer saga? Woodgate has already been mentioned. Could add Hamann. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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