Heron Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 ANDY CARROLL completed an astonishing £35million move to Liverpool yesterday but claimed he had been forced out of Newcastle. Striker Carroll, 22, told close friends he did not want to leave Newcastle and texts seen by the Daily Express confirm that. In one, sent to Steve Wraith, editor of a Toon fanzine, Carroll says: “They have kind of said we don’t want u but want me to say I wanna go. And I said I don’t wanna go.” Asked what was going on, Carroll replied: “I don’t know mate. Gutted tho. They said they wanted the money. Gutted to be leaving my home club but I was practically told to go. Don’t want to leave. That’s why I signed five-year deal.” Carroll makes it clear that the motivation for the move was based around the Magpies board, who wanted to cash in on his blistering early-season form and felt £35m was too good an offer to decline. Carroll made his late-night switch to Liverpool for a record fee for a British player as manager Kenny Dalglish quickly spent some of the £50m he received for Fernando Torres’s move to Chelsea. When Carroll signed an extended deal in November he said: “That’s it, 100 per cent. I’ve just signed a five-year contract and as it stands I want to be here forever. This is my home, what I want to be doing, the club I want to play for, the shirt I want to wear.” Newcastle said Carroll left of his own accord, having handed in a transfer request and had moved for vastly increased wages. Read more: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/226490/Andy-Carroll-I-was-forced-out-of-Toon/Andy-Carroll-I-was-forced-out-of-Toon#ixzz1CfELg9Gj Call me naive, but I for one believe this, to a certain degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 You're only naive if you believe those who've lied to us on a number of occasions, including last month through Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 ANDY CARROLL completed an astonishing £35million move to Liverpool yesterday but claimed he had been forced out of Newcastle. Striker Carroll, 22, told close friends he did not want to leave Newcastle and texts seen by the Daily Express confirm that. In one, sent to Steve Wraith, editor of a Toon fanzine, Carroll says: “They have kind of said we don’t want u but want me to say I wanna go. And I said I don’t wanna go.” Asked what was going on, Carroll replied: “I don’t know mate. Gutted tho. They said they wanted the money. Gutted to be leaving my home club but I was practically told to go. Don’t want to leave. That’s why I signed five-year deal.” Carroll makes it clear that the motivation for the move was based around the Magpies board, who wanted to cash in on his blistering early-season form and felt £35m was too good an offer to decline. Carroll made his late-night switch to Liverpool for a record fee for a British player as manager Kenny Dalglish quickly spent some of the £50m he received for Fernando Torres’s move to Chelsea. When Carroll signed an extended deal in November he said: “That’s it, 100 per cent. I’ve just signed a five-year contract and as it stands I want to be here forever. This is my home, what I want to be doing, the club I want to play for, the shirt I want to wear.” Newcastle said Carroll left of his own accord, having handed in a transfer request and had moved for vastly increased wages. Read more: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/226490/Andy-Carroll-I-was-forced-out-of-Toon/Andy-Carroll-I-was-forced-out-of-Toon#ixzz1CfELg9Gj Sounds like he's trying to deflect some of the blame. Knows the fans hate Ashley and know the club won't respond. Easy target. My thoughts as well, he'll have questions about them fired at him at the various press conferences now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Can you think of any reason he would have submitted a transfer request though heza? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Nah, it's too easy for him to turn around and blame Ashley and Llambias man, the Judas c*** has made his bed and now he's got to lie in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Carroll could have easily said he's not making that big a decision in half a day which will effect his career and his family set up, no one would expect that off anyone. Carroll jumped at the chance for a massive wage increase and to get away from old habits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 He could have said no. It's been said a hundred times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 You're only naive if you believe those who've lied to us on a number of occasions, including last month through Pardew. Ronaldo, do you have any idea why Carroll would submit a transfer request if he was really 'forced out'? I can't think of a way the club could have got him to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Pardew certainly seemed confident in the radio interview that there would be quite a bit of dealing in the summer. Obviously you don't have to believe him, but I'll at least be hopeful we'll make a couple of decent signings. We might not get the full £35m for players, but a good slice of it would be nice. We should f***ing get all of it. Damn fucking right. If there was to be any modicrum of justice and reason to come out of this absolutely horrible day is that we buy £30 million worth of 'Tiote and Ben Arfa model' signings over the summer. I'm not expecting it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 He could have said no. It's been said a hundred times. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Those quotes still don't explain why he handed in a transfer request. It sounded like he didn't want to do it, why did he suddenly agree to this imaginary plan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 206...enough said. eh ? Was with regards to the Shearer comments made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Those quotes still don't explain why he handed in a transfer request. It sounded like he didn't want to do it, why did he suddenly agree to this imaginary plan? Is their a mysterious third party acting as Dark Forces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 In my career, I would obviously jump at the chance to move anywhere for a massive wage increase. But then I'm not playing up front for Newcastle Utd after supporting them all my life. I can't decided whether that makes enough of a difference that I can understand Carroll taking the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarrovianmag Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20110131/carroll-completes-liverpool-switch_2281670_2281490 Club saying signed for an undisclosed fee. Think we will be lucky to see half of the £35 million Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I think this situation is worse though, because we thought Carroll understood how important NUFC was to the fans and he loved the club himself. Yep, he was supposed to get it. To understand what it meant to wear the number nine. Shearer was his hero! He doesn't have a fraction of the loyalty Al had. Piss off man. Shearer milked us far worse and was a busted flush who didn't have any other interested suitors after he came here. He was Kevin Nolan playing up front by the time he got here. Fuck off You're understanding of history is flawed due to inexperience. Come back in 10 years and we can talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 You're only naive if you believe those who've lied to us on a number of occasions, including last month through Pardew. If you can explain how they got him to hand in a transfer request, I'll agree with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 In my career, I would obviously jump at the chance to move anywhere for a massive wage increase. But then I'm not playing up front for Newcastle Utd after supporting them all my life. I can't decided whether that makes enough of a difference that I can understand Carroll taking the money. Genuinely don't think I'd even consider a move away from NUFC if I was playing for us. Honestly, not even to triple 40k a week wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Can you think of any reason he would have submitted a transfer request though heza? Not after all the other PR, but I guess money talks... Still not sure this is what has happened though, an none of the fans will ever know, so I think it's best to leave this one unresolved and sit on the fence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 In my career, I would obviously jump at the chance to move anywhere for a massive wage increase. But then I'm not playing up front for Newcastle Utd after supporting them all my life. I can't decided whether that makes enough of a difference that I can understand Carroll taking the money. Genuinely don't think I'd even consider a move away from NUFC if I was playing for us. Honestly, not even to triple 40k a week wages. I'm leaning towards that myself, although I guess £40k a week must start to seem normal after a while - as mad as that sounds to ordinary people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Undisclosed. Least we could expect is to tell us how much we got ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I don't think I'm even angry with Carroll for the request if it happened. Just totally confused and disappointed. /If it is just for money then I'll be angry, but it doesn't seem to sit right yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Thats it for me, goodnight. Been a bad day but there have been some corker posts, special mention to Booboo, Mick & Ronaldo who posted some beltas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I think everyone's aware that we're just one of the dozens of clubs who mostly populate the lower ranks of the Premiership, occasionally piece together a jammy European run, and provide talent for the 5~6 teams at the top. No need to over-dramatize it, that's just what most Premiership clubs are right now. We shouldn't be, that's the point. Our ambition should match our size, income and fanbase. We're a team that should always be aiming to be the very best that it can be. We're no different to any other team, except that our income, fanbase and size should put us near the top 1/3rd of the league. Obviously it's not an ideal world, and Abramovich has changed all of that, but we should be looking to be a progressive, aspiring and ambitious club. Anyone getting their hands on us would have an absolute goldmine of potential success, adulation, undying loyalty, income and undoubted fun. We get called deluded, but f*** it, I've lived elsewhere, in this country and abroad, and I have never come across anywhere remotely like Newcastle when it comes to just how much football means to a city and it's people. Don't tell me not to over-dramatise it, we're Newcastle United, we're not f***ing Blackburn. Thanks. It's not really about the first team squad or gate receipts anymore. It's all about brand value. You need to be one of those clubs where the media and just the general footballing culture will hype you up as one of the "big boys." No matter what our relative league positions are, Liverpool FC will always be a more attractive proposition than NUFC assuming that we are in the same division. Like I said, brand value. There is a cultural glass ceiling at the top of the Premiership that is far more resilient than any gap in financial capabilities. Due to the fact that we acted like f***ing idiots precisely at the moment when it was being defined, we're firmly on the wrong side of it. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. You're basically saying that nothing will ever change, despite Spurs and Man City changing that, albeit in Man City's case, artificially. Both now have brand value, there's no reason why we couldn't bring the advancement needed to bring brand value. In Sky's eyes, we're still classed as being a big club, because they built us up to be that way. Aspiring to, and getting into the CL for example would bring that back just as quickly as it did for us when we were there, just as quickly as it left both us and Leeds. I'm not saying that's realistic in the foreseeable future, I'm just saying that there is so much potential for that type of situation coming about quite quickly with the right investment, but the point being that there is more potential than probably the entire league bar the top 5, which coincidentally is exactly where we should be aiming to reside in, in the long-term, no matter how ridiculous it seems right now. fwiw I obviously don't think for a second that Alan Pardew or Mike fucking Ashley would be involved in this type of scenario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Undisclosed. Least we could expect is to tell us how much we got ffs. It's just the new policy isn't it, not commenting on the details of transfers? I don't think the club have confirmed a purchase or sale price for ages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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