Optimistic Nut Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Does this 25% clause mean that if he does "a Keane" and say Spurs offer £15m, we offer £16m, we actually only pay £12m because we get 25% back ourselves anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 If the sell on clause exists it will only be for any amount over £35m he's sold for. No way it's just 25% of whatever Liverpool might sell him for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Where did you read that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Back next week v west ham apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magpie99 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I honestly dont give a fat rats clacker about him now. He proved to all he was just after the money. To be honest, it was a great deal for the cluib and I think defenders will learn how to play him because there isnt much more to him than brute force. 35 million quid for Carroll was great business and we have proved since that we can achieve results without him. What is it, one defeat in 8 league games? Unless Liverpool buy a couple of wingers who stay wide and provide regular crosses, I cannot see him being much of a success there so dont bank on any extra money coming our way because if he does move in the future, it will be for a lot less than what they paid for him. By the way, it isnt often that players who leave our club prosper better. I only hope MA spoends the money and more on a few good players to bolster the squad and we keep the likes of Enrique, Barton and Tiote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 By the way, it isnt often that players who leave our club prosper better. Most of the record sales outgoing have had decent careers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magpie99 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I didnt say record sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I honestly dont give a fat rats clacker about him now. He proved to all he was just after the money. To be honest, it was a great deal for the cluib and I think defenders will learn how to play him because there isnt much more to him than brute force. 35 million quid for Carroll was great business and we have proved since that we can achieve results without him. What is it, one defeat in 8 league games? Unless Liverpool buy a couple of wingers who stay wide and provide regular crosses, I cannot see him being much of a success there so dont bank on any extra money coming our way because if he does move in the future, it will be for a lot less than what they paid for him. By the way, it isnt often that players who leave our club prosper better. I only hope MA spoends the money and more on a few good players to bolster the squad and we keep the likes of Enrique, Barton and Tiote. Completely disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 How do you learn to defend against brute force? He is just stronger than them, there isn't much you can learn to beat that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Liverpool have got him on the weights already, changed his diet to make him even stronger. Will be a force physically as long as he doesn't go to prison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Liverpool have got him on the weights already, changed his diet to make him even stronger. Will be a force physically as long as he doesn't go to prison isn't it strange whenever a player joins a new club they always seem to have to do a load of extra training etc. it's never, "it was a much tougher regime at my previous club, here i come in hangover, piss about on the pitch in some five-a-sides, have some food then fuck off to the bookies" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Liverpool have got him on the weights already, changed his diet to make him even stronger. Will be a force physically as long as he doesn't go to prison isn't it strange whenever a player joins a new club they always seem to have to do a load of extra training etc. They want to develop, we just try to avoid injury due to squad size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Liverpool have got him on the weights already, changed his diet to make him even stronger. Will be a force physically as long as he doesn't go to prison isn't it strange whenever a player joins a new club they always seem to have to do a load of extra training etc. They want to develop, we just try to avoid injury due to squad size. not just here. the only ones who say their new clubs are lax are those that come from abroad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Its just crap from the papers about how great a club Liverpool are. Carroll wasn't doing too badly with our coaches and training regimes was he? No doubt in the future, Liverpool will get all the credit for turning him into an England international... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I wonder if he'd still have been sold had he been fully fit and we were in the bottom three Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I wonder if he'd still have been sold had he been fully fit and we were in the bottom three Probably Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Liverpool have got him on the weights already, changed his diet to make him even stronger. Will be a force physically as long as he doesn't go to prison isn't it strange whenever a player joins a new club they always seem to have to do a load of extra training etc. it's never, "it was a much tougher regime at my previous club, here i come in hangover, piss about on the pitch in some five-a-sides, have some food then f*** off to the bookies" Almost exactly what happened to Jimmy Greaves at West Ham I believe. Halcyon days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 The risk about Carroll is his injury proneness. History proves that tall strikers tends to have more injuries. If Carroll is also an injury-prone player (his record wasn't very good here already), he'll never fulfill his potential that worhts 35m. In addition to that, once the injury brings permanent obstacles to his aerial powerness, he's finished. In fact, if I am the manager, I would rather make his training schedule become lighter rather than heavier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 The risk about Carroll is his injury proneness. History proves that tall strikers tends to have more injuries. If Carroll is also an injury-prone player (his record wasn't very good here already), he'll never fulfill his potential that worhts 35m. In addition to that, once the injury brings permanent obstacles to his aerial powerness, he's finished. In fact, if I am the manager, I would rather make his training schedule become lighter rather than heavier. When has Carroll ever been injury prone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 The risk about Carroll is his injury proneness. History proves that tall strikers tends to have more injuries. If Carroll is also an injury-prone player (his record wasn't very good here already), he'll never fulfill his potential that worhts 35m. In addition to that, once the injury brings permanent obstacles to his aerial powerness, he's finished. In fact, if I am the manager, I would rather make his training schedule become lighter rather than heavier. When has Carroll ever been injury prone? Disregarding his first season at EPL, last year he missed out 6-8 league games due to injury (as far as I remember), this year he's out from mid December till mid February. To me it's enough to raise doubts. Probably not for others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 The risk about Carroll is his injury proneness. History proves that tall strikers tends to have more injuries. If Carroll is also an injury-prone player (his record wasn't very good here already), he'll never fulfill his potential that worhts 35m. In addition to that, once the injury brings permanent obstacles to his aerial powerness, he's finished. In fact, if I am the manager, I would rather make his training schedule become lighter rather than heavier. Really?? I stand to be corrected, but let's start with Michael Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I think fast players tend to struggle with injuries more, especially hamstrings and pulls in leg muscles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Last season Carroll missed a couple of games through illness, three with a groin strain and went missing for a game or two when he was in trouble. Still featured in over 40 games. He's injured, he's not injury prone. If he is then so is the entire squad, with the exception of Coloccini, who is clearly indestructible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Duncan Ferguson was always injured. Crouch not so often. I do hope though that Carrolls injury record resembles Woodgates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Or Dean Ashton's, preferably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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