JH Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 DL: "How about we take Carroll on loan?" LFC: "No" DL: "Ok, 7 million pound?" LFC: "No" DL: "Ok, how about we take him on loan..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I'd be happy with him back but not bothered if he didn't return. It's a strange one is this, kinda like asking if you'd want Hulk Hogan to return to the WWE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 dont understand peopel saying they dont want him back. It we keep Ba/ cisse he will be an excellent addition. If we lose one of them, he will be an essential replacement. Because he's only suited to play either in a 4-4-2 or in the centre of a 4-3-3 (which is our best formation IMO). There aren't many strikers in the world I'd move Cissé for, and Carroll certainly isn't one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Not saying De Jong is the same type of player as Carroll (I know f*** all about him tbh), but wouldn't we have had all the same problems of accomodating three first-team strikers had he joined? Can't remember so many people being as concerned about that. Can't De Jong play wider though? That's what people like Mole would have you believe, but in reality he really is a central forward iyam. The Twente fan I asked said he can and has played wide of their front 3 frequently. That doesn't make him a wide player still. It is quite usual for young forwards trying to break into the team to first play wide of a front 3. It's how Van Persie started at Feyenoord for example. He may be able to play there yes, but it's certainly not his best or natural position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Liverpool clearly are willing to listen to offers. We are interested and Carroll will walk back to Newcastle given half a chance. Expect this to happen tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I don't want the guy anywhere near NUFC, I really hope this doesn't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Not saying De Jong is the same type of player as Carroll (I know f*** all about him tbh), but wouldn't we have had all the same problems of accomodating three first-team strikers had he joined? Can't remember so many people being as concerned about that. Can't De Jong play wider though? That's what people like Mole would have you believe, but in reality he really is a central forward iyam. The Twente fan I asked said he can and has played wide of their front 3 frequently. That doesn't make him a wide player still. It is quite usual for young forwards trying to break into the team to first play wide of a front 3. It's how Van Persie started at Feyenoord for example. He may be able to play there yes, but it's certainly not his best or natural position. But it means we can accomodate him in the team either in that position or as a the middle player game to game etc. You couldn't do that with Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Not saying De Jong is the same type of player as Carroll (I know f*** all about him tbh), but wouldn't we have had all the same problems of accomodating three first-team strikers had he joined? Can't remember so many people being as concerned about that. Can't De Jong play wider though? That's what people like Mole would have you believe, but in reality he really is a central forward iyam. The Twente fan I asked said he can and has played wide of their front 3 frequently. That doesn't make him a wide player still. It is quite usual for young forwards trying to break into the team to first play wide of a front 3. It's how Van Persie started at Feyenoord for example. He may be able to play there yes, but it's certainly not his best or natural position. I never said it's his natural position or he was a wide player, i said he has played there before and can do it rather easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 dont understand peopel saying they dont want him back. It we keep Ba/ cisse he will be an excellent addition. If we lose one of them, he will be an essential replacement. Because he's only suited to play either in a 4-4-2 or in the centre of a 4-3-3 (which is our best formation IMO). There aren't many strikers in the world I'd move Cissé for, and Carroll certainly isn't one of them. Cisse playing off carol knock downs could be fucking devastating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Nile ranger @NilePowerRanger Andy carroll coming back would b GREAT Brap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 It is understood the approach falls way short of Liverpool's demands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I'd fancy Carroll to score more alongside Cisse than Ba did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 dont understand peopel saying they dont want him back. It we keep Ba/ cisse he will be an excellent addition. If we lose one of them, he will be an essential replacement. Because he's only suited to play either in a 4-4-2 or in the centre of a 4-3-3 (which is our best formation IMO). There aren't many strikers in the world I'd move Cissé for, and Carroll certainly isn't one of them. Cisse playing off carol knock downs could be fucking devastating. That would mean Ba isn't playing though, and Ba is twice the player Carroll is. EDIT: And it would probably mean HBA playing in a RW position, forcing Cabaye to take on more defensive duties than the Cabaye we saw during the 4-3-3 when he was on top of his game. Don't get me wrong, Cabaye is great in that position too, just not as good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Probably want us to pay more of his wages. They'll get there in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 dont understand peopel saying they dont want him back. It we keep Ba/ cisse he will be an excellent addition. If we lose one of them, he will be an essential replacement. Because he's only suited to play either in a 4-4-2 or in the centre of a 4-3-3 (which is our best formation IMO). There aren't many strikers in the world I'd move Cissé for, and Carroll certainly isn't one of them. Cisse playing off carol knock downs could be f***ing devastating. That would mean Ba isn't playing though, and Ba is twice the player Carroll is. We have a whole european campaign to play as well as FA cup and league cup games. Our fixture list next season is going to be massive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Also without Ba and Cisse for up to six weeks aren't we ? ANC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 dont understand peopel saying they dont want him back. It we keep Ba/ cisse he will be an excellent addition. If we lose one of them, he will be an essential replacement. Because he's only suited to play either in a 4-4-2 or in the centre of a 4-3-3 (which is our best formation IMO). There aren't many strikers in the world I'd move Cissé for, and Carroll certainly isn't one of them. Cisse playing off carol knock downs could be f***ing devastating. That would mean Ba isn't playing though, and Ba is twice the player Carroll is. We have a whole european campaign to play as well as FA cup and league cup games. Our fixture list next season is going to be massive. I'm not saying don't get any striker, I just want a striker that's more flexible than Carroll. Like Sewelly says, you really can't play him anywhere else other than a CF, and that is not the player we need. Ba, Cissé and even Shola can play that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 dont understand peopel saying they dont want him back. It we keep Ba/ cisse he will be an excellent addition. If we lose one of them, he will be an essential replacement. Because he's only suited to play either in a 4-4-2 or in the centre of a 4-3-3 (which is our best formation IMO). There aren't many strikers in the world I'd move Cissé for, and Carroll certainly isn't one of them. Cisse playing off carol knock downs could be f***ing devastating. That would mean Ba isn't playing though, and Ba is twice the player Carroll is. We have a whole european campaign to play as well as FA cup and league cup games. Our fixture list next season is going to be massive. its almost beyond belief that a fan of this club- the fucking problems weve had down the years, dosent understand the need for more than simply a first choice forward line up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Not saying De Jong is the same type of player as Carroll (I know f*** all about him tbh), but wouldn't we have had all the same problems of accomodating three first-team strikers had he joined? Can't remember so many people being as concerned about that. Can't De Jong play wider though? That's what people like Mole would have you believe, but in reality he really is a central forward iyam. The Twente fan I asked said he can and has played wide of their front 3 frequently. That doesn't make him a wide player still. It is quite usual for young forwards trying to break into the team to first play wide of a front 3. It's how Van Persie started at Feyenoord for example. He may be able to play there yes, but it's certainly not his best or natural position. But it means we can accomodate him in the team either in that position or as a the middle player game to game etc. You couldn't do that with Carroll. True. I would have been happy with either to be fair, as long as it was to compliment Ba and Cisse. I'm happy we're looking at this calibre of striker and reasonable confident we'll get one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Also without Ba and Cisse for up to six weeks aren't we ? ANC. Probably not. They're playing Ivory Coast in a play-off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Also without Ba and Cisse for up to six weeks aren't we ? ANC. They are playing Ivory Coast in their qualifier, hopefully Tiote keeps them quiet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 It is understood the approach falls way short of Liverpool's demands. No loan fee and no wages covered? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Also without Ba and Cisse for up to six weeks aren't we ? ANC. As is Carroll for 6 weeks per season for the annual 'Romany Travellers Cup'. Played on freshly laid tarmac, caravans for changing rooms and Paddy O'Doherty as Team Gaffer. New venue every year. Not many big crowds but plenty of dags. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Very true this, From Pards up they have praised the lad and not slated him at all. http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liverpool-striker-Andy-Carroll-worth-f-all-claims-Newcastle-MD-Derek-Llambias-article829815.html Whoops. “But the £35m they wanted to pay over four years. It was rubbish. Mike (Ashley) said — and he is a brave boy Mike I promise you — get all the £35m up front. “We got it all up front and then they never paid us on time and we charged them 12 grand f****** interest.” A fair few pages now but fell behind on my reading. Never knew that last line ffs. Unreal. Likeability factor has just bumped up a little more for Ashley and Llambias tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Also without Ba and Cisse for up to six weeks aren't we ? ANC. Probably not. They're playing Ivory Coast in a play-off. Also without Ba and Cisse for up to six weeks aren't we ? ANC. They are playing Ivory Coast in their qualifier, hopefully Tiote keeps them quiet Better an Ivory Coast win then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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