junkhead Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 You're all in denial. The lad wants to come home. One day, after he has eclipsed Shearer's Premiership goal record in our black and white shirt he will confess in his memoirs that it was all one big cunning Mike Ashley plan. The 35 million move, the disappointing performances in the red shirt of Lolerpool, getting Dogleash sacked in the process, refusing to go anywhere else but us, leaving Lolerpool no choice but to sell him back for 3.5 mill to get his wages of the books, and the subsequent re-emergence of the prodigal son. 443 goals in 12 seasons at Newcastle and a complete Premiership and Champions League winning team bought from the proceeds of his transfer, who'd have thought it possible..? Amen brother. We'll probably get Andy for less than 10 million if he plays his cards right and he'll tear shit up once again for us, thus confirming the biggest legal con in football history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Oh ffs, i really hope we don't get him ( obviously) unless it's mainly based on cost or tactics, which is fair enough and a different argument. That's exactly why i dont want him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I don't really grasp the hostility to resigning him. For all the trouser wetting about the price, nobody can come up with a suitable alternative who critically, wants to join Newcastle. I get that we played well last year as a 433 but that was always seemingly a tactic against the lesser sides. When we play on the road or against better teams, it's clear that Pards will favour the more solid, albeit less exciting, 442. It's not as if the 433 was ever a full time switch to set up like that every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Obviously then he's willing to come here or stay there (if playing) and probably nowt else. I don't think we'll do anything now until very late in the window. We've played our hand and we'll make them sweat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Liverpool will fold soon purple monkey dishwasher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 tbh, while I still hope we get a pacey winger/striker in preference to Andy. I will do a little happy jump if we sign Carroll back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I don't really grasp the hostility to resigning him. For all the trouser wetting about the price, nobody can come up with a suitable alternative who critically, wants to join Newcastle. I get that we played well last year as a 433 but that was always seemingly a tactic against the lesser sides. When we play on the road or against better teams, it's clear that Pards will favour the more solid, albeit less exciting, 442. It's not as if the 433 was ever a full time switch to set up like that every game. I think the bigger debate here is why a number of people have lost faith with our buying policy now we're linked with a guy who has already smashed goals in for us. Cost/tactics/attitude arguments are valid but ability/buying policy arguments are not. A lot of people on here who watch every single game in Europe each week while still leading their team to glory on Football Manager time and time again have opinions that are there to be respected and admired but there you go. Sewelly I'll believe in because he's just a daft football freak with a football illness and decent craic but these other ones can piss off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Where are you from/based Mole_Toonfan? I'd like to know. Fed up with this now. Your getting tired of what exactly? the fact i dont want him because he costs far too much and would rather someone who is versatile and fits more than one system and can play in more one position. Dont see what the problem with that is. Also why does where i'm from matter? Also i dont even play football manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I don't really grasp the hostility to resigning him. For all the trouser wetting about the price, nobody can come up with a suitable alternative who critically, wants to join Newcastle. I get that we played well last year as a 433 but that was always seemingly a tactic against the lesser sides. When we play on the road or against better teams, it's clear that Pards will favour the more solid, albeit less exciting, 442. It's not as if the 433 was ever a full time switch to set up like that every game. I think the bigger debate here is why a number of people have lost faith with our buying policy now we're linked with a guy who has already smashed goals in for us. Cost/tactics/attitude arguments are valid but ability/buying policy arguments are not. A lot of people on here who watch every single game in Europe each week while still leading their team to glory on Football Manager time and time again but there you go. Sewelly I'll believe in because he's just a daft football freak with a football illness and decent craic but these other ones can piss off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 A striker who is versatile and plays more than one position. Getting tired of this shit? Who is it you want? I think Robin van Persie is out of reach unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Inter- hear hear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Bring the bugger back, bring the bugger back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Tensions are running high.... I'd be elated if we got Carroll. It would be a coup. 3 top strikers a champions league qualifying teameth make Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I'm getting fecked off with the total spackers on here who seem to think we will suddenly start hoofing it long as our only way of playing if he comes back. They seem to forget we didn't play that way with him in our team at any stage when he was here. We had the option of going long when we needed it but we never blootered it all game. Its all about price for me, anything around £12m or under sign him, its not rocket surgery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 A striker who is versatile and plays more than one position. Getting tired of this s***? Who is it you want? I think Robin van Persie is out of reach unfortunately. I just stated the type of player that i'd like to see us go for, i don't have to state names because that isn't my job. All i want is a forward who can play wide so we can stick to 4-2-3-1/4-3-3. Carroll can only play 1 position. I have never been against Carroll's ability as a player and what he can bring i'm against his attitude, his tactical versatility and his price. But because my opinion is different, i'm a football manager freak and a foreigner who has no right to give his opinion on the team he has supported since he was 4 years old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Oooohhh its gone all handbags tonight......i'm going to have pop tart and yogurt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Where are you from/based Mole_Toonfan? I'd like to know. Fed up with this now. Your getting tired of what exactly? the fact i dont want him because he costs far too much and would rather someone who is versatile and fits more than one system and can play in more one position. Dont see what the problem with that is. Also why does where i'm from matter? Also i dont even play football manager Where then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 A striker who is versatile and plays more than one position. Getting tired of this s***? Who is it you want? I think Robin van Persie is out of reach unfortunately. I just stated the type of player that i'd like to see us go for, i don't have to state names because that isn't my job. All i want is a forward who can play wide so we can stick to 4-2-3-1/4-3-3. Carroll can only play 1 position. I have never been against Carroll's ability as a player and what he can bring i'm against his attitude, his tactical versatility and his price. But because my opinion is different, i'm a football manager freak and a foreigner who has no right to give his opinion on the team he has supported since he was 4 years old. Tbf, if you've only been supporting us for 10 years, you should be able to remember how good Carroll was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I don't really grasp the hostility to resigning him. For all the trouser wetting about the price, nobody can come up with a suitable alternative who critically, wants to join Newcastle. I'm sorry, but that's not our job. You can't discount the opinion of anyone that disagrees with you because we are incapable of coming up with a viable alternative. I am just confident we could do better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I don't really grasp the hostility to resigning him. For all the trouser wetting about the price, nobody can come up with a suitable alternative who critically, wants to join Newcastle. I'm sorry, but that's not our job. You can't discount the opinion of anyone that disagrees with you because we are incapable of coming up with a viable alternative. I am just confident we could do better. Undermines the argument rather though, doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Not our job by the way lols Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Seem's fairly clear to me that the only club that can unleash his potential is us, purely because Newcastle are the only side he truly wants to play for. Now he may well move to West Ham, but wether his previous form will return at Boleyn is hugely debatable. May get a handful of goals, but nothing as blistering as before. If he came back here though its entirely plausable we would see that snarling bully of a centre forward who ran at defenders aswell as totured them in the air. He's got Newcastle in his dna which is why we're the only club that can save his career from becoming forgettable, for positive reasons anyway. Despite all of the above i'm not sure where he's gonna end up, but it's back to back mistakes if he joins West Ham imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 A striker who is versatile and plays more than one position. Getting tired of this s***? Who is it you want? I think Robin van Persie is out of reach unfortunately. I just stated the type of player that i'd like to see us go for, i don't have to state names because that isn't my job. All i want is a forward who can play wide so we can stick to 4-2-3-1/4-3-3. Carroll can only play 1 position. I have never been against Carroll's ability as a player and what he can bring i'm against his attitude, his tactical versatility and his price. But because my opinion is different, i'm a football manager freak and a foreigner who has no right to give his opinion on the team he has supported since he was 4 years old. Tbf, if you've only been supporting us for 10 years, you should be able to remember how good Carroll was. Try 18 years smart arse Plus of course i remember how good Carroll was, but i'm convinced that Carroll cant be replicated on a regular basis. Carroll was the go to guy in that team and everything was built for him, now he would just be another player and i'm not sure he could perform to the same level in such a scenario. Anyway i have said many times why i dont want Carroll and its not for ability reasons. It's for tactical, attitude and financial reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I don't really grasp the hostility to resigning him. For all the trouser wetting about the price, nobody can come up with a suitable alternative who critically, wants to join Newcastle. I'm sorry, but that's not our job. You can't discount the opinion of anyone that disagrees with you because we are incapable of coming up with a viable alternative. I am just confident we could do better. So yoy've got no answer then. Thought so. . Maybe we should see if Peter Beardsley fancies one last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I don't really grasp the hostility to resigning him. For all the trouser wetting about the price, nobody can come up with a suitable alternative who critically, wants to join Newcastle. I'm sorry, but that's not our job. You can't discount the opinion of anyone that disagrees with you because we are incapable of coming up with a viable alternative. I am just confident we could do better. So yoy've got no answer then. Thought so. . Maybe we should see if Peter Beardsley fancies one last season. No, because I'm not a fully qualified European scout. However I can still disagree with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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