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mrmojorisin75

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nothing but disgust for any arsenal fan who would turn on Wenger but in all truth his time is surely coming one way or another?

 

how long can he ignore the glaring deficiencies in his team is the question - diaby, song, denilson, djourou, silvestre & gallas will never be able to form a good enough defensive unit to protect his attackers and it needs to be dealt with

 

the diarra deal(s) were bonkers, as was him not signing palacios and recommending him to bruce!!  both of them would improve arsenal a great deal

 

they'll probably continue to finish 4th by being better footballers than the rest of the league but unless he takes some action to steel the team up they're not winning any of the big prizes again soon, and that would be such a shame for a great manager who is so close to creating something fantastic

 

I don't think they're that far off being a great side again. They need another top class centre back to partner Toure - the loss of Gallas and the feuding that has surrounded him has been a real blow.

 

I also think they need a better striker. Adebayor and Van Persie are good players but I don't think they'll take them from the top four to the top two, which is what they're aiming for.

 

Apart from that, I don't think there's much wrong. Fourth place and a Champions League semi is a good platform to build on.

 

yeah, but if he goes out in the summer and buys another striker/winger/14 year old as he's done in the last couple of windows they'll not improve much and you have to ask how long should they carry on with that?

 

depends what they're in it for, if it's to build a team to be successful then let him keep at it, but if they want success in the very near future beyond an FA cup then forget it - man u, chelsea & liverpool are striking the right balance, arsenal are not

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nothing but disgust for any arsenal fan who would turn on Wenger but in all truth his time is surely coming one way or another?

 

how long can he ignore the glaring deficiencies in his team is the question - diaby, song, denilson, djourou, silvestre & gallas will never be able to form a good enough defensive unit to protect his attackers and it needs to be dealt with

 

the diarra deal(s) were bonkers, as was him not signing palacios and recommending him to bruce!!  both of them would improve arsenal a great deal

 

they'll probably continue to finish 4th by being better footballers than the rest of the league but unless he takes some action to steel the team up they're not winning any of the big prizes again soon, and that would be such a shame for a great manager who is so close to creating something fantastic

 

I don't think they're that far off being a great side again. They need another top class centre back to partner Toure - the loss of Gallas and the feuding that has surrounded him has been a real blow.

 

I also think they need a better striker. Adebayor and Van Persie are good players but I don't think they'll take them from the top four to the top two, which is what they're aiming for.

 

Apart from that, I don't think there's much wrong. Fourth place and a Champions League semi is a good platform to build on.

 

yeah, but if he goes out in the summer and buys another striker/winger/14 year old as he's done in the last couple of windows they'll not improve much and you have to ask how long should they carry on with that?

 

depends what they're in it for, if it's to build a team to be successful then let him keep at it, but if they want success in the very near future beyond an FA cup then forget it - man u, chelsea & liverpool are striking the right balance, arsenal are not

On the other hand there´s the small matter of one Andrei Arshavin, which at least gives them the extra edge needed in forward positions. All-in-all they're probably one CB and another striker short of assembling quite a stunning team...
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nothing but disgust for any arsenal fan who would turn on Wenger but in all truth his time is surely coming one way or another?

 

how long can he ignore the glaring deficiencies in his team is the question - diaby, song, denilson, djourou, silvestre & gallas will never be able to form a good enough defensive unit to protect his attackers and it needs to be dealt with

 

the diarra deal(s) were bonkers, as was him not signing palacios and recommending him to bruce!!  both of them would improve arsenal a great deal

 

they'll probably continue to finish 4th by being better footballers than the rest of the league but unless he takes some action to steel the team up they're not winning any of the big prizes again soon, and that would be such a shame for a great manager who is so close to creating something fantastic

 

I don't think they're that far off being a great side again. They need another top class centre back to partner Toure - the loss of Gallas and the feuding that has surrounded him has been a real blow.

 

I also think they need a better striker. Adebayor and Van Persie are good players but I don't think they'll take them from the top four to the top two, which is what they're aiming for.

 

Apart from that, I don't think there's much wrong. Fourth place and a Champions League semi is a good platform to build on.

 

yeah, but if he goes out in the summer and buys another striker/winger/14 year old as he's done in the last couple of windows they'll not improve much and you have to ask how long should they carry on with that?

 

depends what they're in it for, if it's to build a team to be successful then let him keep at it, but if they want success in the very near future beyond an FA cup then forget it - man u, chelsea & liverpool are striking the right balance, arsenal are not

On the other hand there´s the small matter of one Andrei Arshavin, which at least gives them the extra edge needed in forward positions. All-in-all they're probably one CB and another striker short of assembling quite a stunning team...

 

Erm, they also need a couple of bastard midfielders in the mold of Vieira and Petit. The midfielders they have now pale in comparison to those two, and even to the Ray Parlour of the later years.

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nothing but disgust for any arsenal fan who would turn on Wenger but in all truth his time is surely coming one way or another?

 

how long can he ignore the glaring deficiencies in his team is the question - diaby, song, denilson, djourou, silvestre & gallas will never be able to form a good enough defensive unit to protect his attackers and it needs to be dealt with

 

the diarra deal(s) were bonkers, as was him not signing palacios and recommending him to bruce!!  both of them would improve arsenal a great deal

 

they'll probably continue to finish 4th by being better footballers than the rest of the league but unless he takes some action to steel the team up they're not winning any of the big prizes again soon, and that would be such a shame for a great manager who is so close to creating something fantastic

 

I don't think they're that far off being a great side again. They need another top class centre back to partner Toure - the loss of Gallas and the feuding that has surrounded him has been a real blow.

 

I also think they need a better striker. Adebayor and Van Persie are good players but I don't think they'll take them from the top four to the top two, which is what they're aiming for.

 

Apart from that, I don't think there's much wrong. Fourth place and a Champions League semi is a good platform to build on.

 

yeah, but if he goes out in the summer and buys another striker/winger/14 year old as he's done in the last couple of windows they'll not improve much and you have to ask how long should they carry on with that?

 

depends what they're in it for, if it's to build a team to be successful then let him keep at it, but if they want success in the very near future beyond an FA cup then forget it - man u, chelsea & liverpool are striking the right balance, arsenal are not

On the other hand there´s the small matter of one Andrei Arshavin, which at least gives them the extra edge needed in forward positions. All-in-all they're probably one CB and another striker short of assembling quite a stunning team...

 

Erm, they also need a couple of bastard midfielders in the mold of Vieira and Petit. The midfielders they have now pale in comparison to those two, and even to the Ray Parlour of the later years.

 

he needs to take a long, hard look at barca for what to do - similarities are obvious

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clintdempsey

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nothing but disgust for any arsenal fan who would turn on Wenger but in all truth his time is surely coming one way or another?

 

how long can he ignore the glaring deficiencies in his team is the question - diaby, song, denilson, djourou, silvestre & gallas will never be able to form a good enough defensive unit to protect his attackers and it needs to be dealt with

 

the diarra deal(s) were bonkers, as was him not signing palacios and recommending him to bruce!!  both of them would improve arsenal a great deal

 

they'll probably continue to finish 4th by being better footballers than the rest of the league but unless he takes some action to steel the team up they're not winning any of the big prizes again soon, and that would be such a shame for a great manager who is so close to creating something fantastic

 

I don't think they're that far off being a great side again. They need another top class centre back to partner Toure - the loss of Gallas and the feuding that has surrounded him has been a real blow.

 

I also think they need a better striker. Adebayor and Van Persie are good players but I don't think they'll take them from the top four to the top two, which is what they're aiming for.

 

Apart from that, I don't think there's much wrong. Fourth place and a Champions League semi is a good platform to build on.

 

yeah, but if he goes out in the summer and buys another striker/winger/14 year old as he's done in the last couple of windows they'll not improve much and you have to ask how long should they carry on with that?

 

depends what they're in it for, if it's to build a team to be successful then let him keep at it, but if they want success in the very near future beyond an FA cup then forget it - man u, chelsea & liverpool are striking the right balance, arsenal are not

On the other hand there´s the small matter of one Andrei Arshavin, which at least gives them the extra edge needed in forward positions. All-in-all they're probably one CB and another striker short of assembling quite a stunning team...

 

Erm, they also need a couple of bastard midfielders in the mold of Vieira and Petit. The midfielders they have now pale in comparison to those two, and even to the Ray Parlour of the later years.

 

he needs to take a long, hard look at barca for what to do - similarities are obvious

I'd agree with that.
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Genuinely feel gutted for Fletcher. Hopefully the ref will ask for the card to be rescinded in his match report, as he doesn't deserve to miss the final when twats like Ronaldo will get to play in it.

Agree. Fletcher has really grown as a player this season, used to think he was a complete waste of space, but he's gotten better and better this season, and especially in the last few games he's been absolutely terrific.

Don't think the challenge warranted a sending off, especially as he did get some of the ball. Penalty yes, but it wasn't a clear enough goal scoring opportunity to warrant a straight red IMO.

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nothing but disgust for any arsenal fan who would turn on Wenger but in all truth his time is surely coming one way or another?

 

how long can he ignore the glaring deficiencies in his team is the question - diaby, song, denilson, djourou, silvestre & gallas will never be able to form a good enough defensive unit to protect his attackers and it needs to be dealt with

 

the diarra deal(s) were bonkers, as was him not signing palacios and recommending him to bruce!!  both of them would improve arsenal a great deal

 

they'll probably continue to finish 4th by being better footballers than the rest of the league but unless he takes some action to steel the team up they're not winning any of the big prizes again soon, and that would be such a shame for a great manager who is so close to creating something fantastic

 

I don't think they're that far off being a great side again. They need another top class centre back to partner Toure - the loss of Gallas and the feuding that has surrounded him has been a real blow.

 

I also think they need a better striker. Adebayor and Van Persie are good players but I don't think they'll take them from the top four to the top two, which is what they're aiming for.

 

Apart from that, I don't think there's much wrong. Fourth place and a Champions League semi is a good platform to build on.

 

I think he needs to sort the midfield out in all honesty. And the squad needs some more experienced players who have character and are actually talented. It's no coincidince since the decline/sales of Vieira, Henry, Bergkamp, Pires and co. that they aren't what they used to be. As well as all being top quality players they all had plenty of experience as well as all being tough mentally. I'd class Arshavin in a similar vein, but not a lot of their team at the moment.

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not scrapping it out at all. He decided to have a dig at spurs lacking realism which is fine, but then in the next sentence he makes these ridiculous predictions about his own club, thus lacking in the realism he keeps talking about.

 

I think personally we should ignore the fact that the Championship has a league in which half the teams could win it let alone get promoted, and is entirely unpredictable. But ssssshhhh, don't tell that to people. Watford are just as likely to reach the playoffs as Crystsl Palace and Derby.

 

This is the thing, the Championship is completely unpredictable, there is no 'top 4', anyone can finish anywhere. We're probably as likely to be battling relegation as going for automatic promotion. But I honestly believe we have the makings of a squad and club structure that can challenge for the play-offs/finish in the top 10. I'm also more than happy to donate £10 to a charity of your choosing if we finish below Wednesday next season.

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not scrapping it out at all. He decided to have a dig at spurs lacking realism which is fine, but then in the next sentence he makes these ridiculous predictions about his own club, thus lacking in the realism he keeps talking about.

 

I think personally we should ignore the fact that the Championship has a league in which half the teams could win it let alone get promoted, and is entirely unpredictable. But ssssshhhh, don't tell that to people. Watford are just as likely to reach the playoffs as Crystsl Palace and Derby.

 

This is the thing, the Championship is completely unpredictable, there is no 'top 4', anyone can finish anywhere. We're probably as likely to be battling relegation as going for automatic promotion. But I honestly believe we have the makings of a squad and club structure that can challenge for the play-offs/finish in the top 10. I'm also more than happy to donate £10 to a charity of your choosing if we finish below Wednesday next season.

 

The 'Kingdawson is broke' trust fund is my choice.

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Chelsea: Cech, Bosingwa, Cole, Alex, Terry, Essien, Ballack, Lampard, Malouda, Anelka, Drogba.

Subs: Hilario, Ivanovic, Di Santo, Mikel, Kalou, Belletti, Mancienne.

Barcelona: Valdes, Alves, Abidal, Pique, Toure, Busquets, Keita, Xavi, Iniesta, Eto'o, Messi.

Subs: Pinto, Caceres, Gudjohnsen, Bojan, Sylvinho, Hleb, Pedro.

 

Henry's out for Barca. Anelka starts for Chelsea and Cole returns, but otherwise the same lineup as last week. Busquets is also in; I'm assuming he'll play in CM and Toure drops back to CB or Keita plays DM and Iniesta takes Henry's place and Busquets drops into the CM role.

 

Edit: Bolded to make it easier to read.

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I think you can see the point he was getting at though...surely no one would have interferred with the manager's transfer dealings pre-Ashley & Wise would they? ;)

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