Shay Given signs for Manchester City for £5.9m plus add-ons

[Guest black n white]

We should hold for stupid money, they've just paid £10m+ for De Jong who they could get for £1.8m in the summer.

 

strangely enough, even though its citeh, i don't think we hold the position of strength here - its not like a keeeper is their top priority...they'll know they can wait and pick him up in the summer, their seasons f***ed anyways

 

I would imagine they still think they can target Waffa as they'll need European football to attract players/keep Robinho happy even if it is only Waffa.

 

Waffa

Thats how the texans say raffa as in lfc manager....got a horrible feeling this will be dragged out til the last day of the window.

 

 

[ToonMonty]

The club should take the 5m or so Man City are offering

 

No they f***ing well shouldn't.

 

Someone explain to me what the point of having an excellent goalkeeper is when the rest of team is poor?

Shay has made countless fantastic saves this season and where has it got us? We're shipping a lot of goals because our midfield doesn't protect the back four and because the defensive fringe players we have are f***ing crap. Shay might keep the goals against tally down to 2 instead of 4 but it's still a defeat. We need strength in depth in midfield and defence, and if selling Shay Given will generate the funds for us to do so then it's a no-brainer as far as i'm concerned.

At the moment it looks like we could be heading for relegation in which case someone will poach him off us for peanuts anyway. We might as well sell him now and sign a couple of players who could help us scrape enough points to stay in the league.

 

Exactly, it's about priorities, and having 4 good keepers isn't one of them. There's a danger that asking for daft money will see the deal delayed too late blowing our chances of getting in re-inforcements where we really need them. City can afford to take their time, we can't.

 

How are you going to sign the players needed to improve the team \ squad with only £5 million?.  I agree in principle despite being a huge Given fan it's just the sum involved isn't enough and the fact we've got 2 good goal keepers and 2 promising youngsters.  Krul did well in the Uefa but that is nowhere near as intense as the Premiership nor is playing in Scotalnd or at Carlisle

[NE5]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

[Baggio]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

[fredbob]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

Delicious.

[NE5]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

like I said, wait until you've had a dose of 2nd division football and sub 30,000 crowds for a few years and see what that does for the finances, unless you stupidly think all the successful clubs also have bulging bank acconts. Get another owner like your man Ashley to succeed him [easily possible, or worse] and the european qualifications, capacity stadiums, England players will be a golden era to you and others. You certainly won't bother yourself travelling to games when Bristol City are on a par with Newcastle again.

 

Then again, you won't admit your DOF bollocks has been proved to be exactly that ie propelling us the way of Leeds.

 

 

[NE5]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

Delicious.

 

indeed, lets not waste any money trying to preserve premiership status, never mind playing in europe.

 

The reply to baggy also applies to you.

 

 

[fredbob]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

like I said, wait until you've had a dose of 2nd division football and sub 30,000 crowds for a few years and see what that does for the finances, unless you stupidly think all the successful clubs also have bulging bank acconts. Get another owner like your man Ashley to succeed him [easily possible, or worse] and the european qualifications, capacity stadiums, England players will be a golden era to you and others. You certainly won't bother yourself travelling to games when Bristol City are on a par with Newcastle.

 

Then again, you won't admit your DOF bollocks has been proved to be exactly that ie propelling us the way of Leeds.

 

 

 

Are you saying this is the first year we've ever faced a relegation battle?

[NE5]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

like I said, wait until you've had a dose of 2nd division football and sub 30,000 crowds for a few years and see what that does for the finances, unless you stupidly think all the successful clubs also have bulging bank acconts. Get another owner like your man Ashley to succeed him [easily possible, or worse] and the european qualifications, capacity stadiums, England players will be a golden era to you and others. You certainly won't bother yourself travelling to games when Bristol City are on a par with Newcastle.

 

Then again, you won't admit your DOF bollocks has been proved to be exactly that ie propelling us the way of Leeds.

 

 

 

Are you saying this is the first year we've ever faced a relegation battle?

 

I've seen the club relegated twice, and saw what it took and how it happened. Have you ?

 

 

[Baggio]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

like I said, wait until you've had a dose of 2nd division football and sub 30,000 crowds for a few years and see what that does for the finances, unless you stupidly think all the successful clubs also have bulging bank acconts. Get another owner like your man Ashley to succeed him [easily possible, or worse] and the european qualifications, capacity stadiums, England players will be a golden era to you and others. You certainly won't bother yourself travelling to games when Bristol City are on a par with Newcastle.

 

Then again, you won't admit your DOF bollocks has been proved to be exactly that ie propelling us the way of Leeds.

 

 

 

I don't think all clubs have bulging bank accounts but when you hardly spend any money on transfers and the club is still losing money then it's clear that something is seriously wrong, you seem to struggle to get your head around this though for some reason and think the club has a bottomless pit of money.

[fredbob]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

like I said, wait until you've had a dose of 2nd division football and sub 30,000 crowds for a few years and see what that does for the finances, unless you stupidly think all the successful clubs also have bulging bank acconts. Get another owner like your man Ashley to succeed him [easily possible, or worse] and the european qualifications, capacity stadiums, England players will be a golden era to you and others. You certainly won't bother yourself travelling to games when Bristol City are on a par with Newcastle.

 

Then again, you won't admit your DOF bollocks has been proved to be exactly that ie propelling us the way of Leeds.

 

 

 

Are you saying this is the first year we've ever faced a relegation battle?

 

I've seen the club relegated twice, and saw what it took and how it happened. Have you ?

 

 

 

That wasnt my question, my question is "Are you saying this is the first year we've ever faced a relegation battle?"

 

What did you attribute all the relegation battles in the past down to?

[NE5]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

like I said, wait until you've had a dose of 2nd division football and sub 30,000 crowds for a few years and see what that does for the finances, unless you stupidly think all the successful clubs also have bulging bank acconts. Get another owner like your man Ashley to succeed him [easily possible, or worse] and the european qualifications, capacity stadiums, England players will be a golden era to you and others. You certainly won't bother yourself travelling to games when Bristol City are on a par with Newcastle.

 

Then again, you won't admit your DOF bollocks has been proved to be exactly that ie propelling us the way of Leeds.

 

 

 

I don't think all clubs have bulging bank accounts but when you hardly spend any money on transfers and the club is still losing money then it's clear that something is seriously wrong, you seem to struggle to get your head around this though for some reason and think the club has a bottomless pit of money.

 

I don't, but I know what it takes to get relegated. And the results of it.

 

I don't suppose you do, as you don't even think a manager has the right to manage the club in the way he sees fit.

 

You're right about something being seriously wrong though, myself and two or three others have been telling you that for the last 18 months.

 

 

[Dave]

Do you have any opinion on the club accounts NE5 or what?

[NE5]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

like I said, wait until you've had a dose of 2nd division football and sub 30,000 crowds for a few years and see what that does for the finances, unless you stupidly think all the successful clubs also have bulging bank acconts. Get another owner like your man Ashley to succeed him [easily possible, or worse] and the european qualifications, capacity stadiums, England players will be a golden era to you and others. You certainly won't bother yourself travelling to games when Bristol City are on a par with Newcastle.

 

Then again, you won't admit your DOF bollocks has been proved to be exactly that ie propelling us the way of Leeds.

 

 

 

Are you saying this is the first year we've ever faced a relegation battle?

 

I've seen the club relegated twice, and saw what it took and how it happened. Have you ?

 

 

 

That wasnt my question, my question is "Are you saying this is the first year we've ever faced a relegation battle?"

 

What did you attribute all the relegation battles in the past down to?

 

I've said it before, I'm not saying it again - I'll just be told its repeating things anyway. Work it out, its the same reason why we are in the state we are in with some of our best players all wanting to go. Which also happened before too.

 

We actually are in the biggest relegation fight we've faced in the top league since we went down in 1988. You'll have to take my word for that if you weren't there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TRon]

I wonder how much cash Ashley has at his disposal if in theory, he wanted to spend £20m this window? Could he release the funds from his own pocket despite being a cockney cunt who isn't welcome at the ground?

[NE5]

Do you have any opinion on the club accounts NE5 or what?

 

You show me who is making a profit in football ?

 

The accounts will look a damn sight worse if the club is relegated and gates are halved, I can tell you that much.

 

 

[Baggio]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

like I said, wait until you've had a dose of 2nd division football and sub 30,000 crowds for a few years and see what that does for the finances, unless you stupidly think all the successful clubs also have bulging bank acconts. Get another owner like your man Ashley to succeed him [easily possible, or worse] and the european qualifications, capacity stadiums, England players will be a golden era to you and others. You certainly won't bother yourself travelling to games when Bristol City are on a par with Newcastle.

 

Then again, you won't admit your DOF bollocks has been proved to be exactly that ie propelling us the way of Leeds.

 

 

 

I don't think all clubs have bulging bank accounts but when you hardly spend any money on transfers and the club is still losing money then it's clear that something is seriously wrong, you seem to struggle to get your head around this though for some reason and think the club has a bottomless pit of money.

 

I don't, but I know what it takes to get relegated. And the results of it.

 

I don't suppose you do, as you don't even think a manager has the right to manage the club in the way he sees fit.

 

You're right about something being seriously wrong though, myself and two or three others have been telling you that for the last 18 months.

 

 

 

I think I've been telling you there is something wrong with the finances at the club for a lot longer than that, yet you've always trotted out the same line about all clubs having debt etc while ignoring the reasons for these clubs being in debt in the first place.

 

You do realise that Ashley has had to guarantee to support us financially otherwise we would be in administration?

 

The thing is I know you realise this but you're such an idiot that you won't admit what a mess we're in, thinking that if we keep spending money (even if we haven't got any) that everything will be ok.

[Baggio]

Do you have any opinion on the club accounts NE5 or what?

 

You show me who is making a profit in football ?

 

The accounts will look a damn sight worse if the club is relegated and gates are halved, I can tell you that much.

 

 

 

So the fact the club isn't spending any money and is still making a loss doesn't matter because not many clubs make a profit in football?

[NE5]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

like I said, wait until you've had a dose of 2nd division football and sub 30,000 crowds for a few years and see what that does for the finances, unless you stupidly think all the successful clubs also have bulging bank acconts. Get another owner like your man Ashley to succeed him [easily possible, or worse] and the european qualifications, capacity stadiums, England players will be a golden era to you and others. You certainly won't bother yourself travelling to games when Bristol City are on a par with Newcastle.

 

Then again, you won't admit your DOF bollocks has been proved to be exactly that ie propelling us the way of Leeds.

 

 

 

I don't think all clubs have bulging bank accounts but when you hardly spend any money on transfers and the club is still losing money then it's clear that something is seriously wrong, you seem to struggle to get your head around this though for some reason and think the club has a bottomless pit of money.

 

I don't, but I know what it takes to get relegated. And the results of it.

 

I don't suppose you do, as you don't even think a manager has the right to manage the club in the way he sees fit.

 

You're right about something being seriously wrong though, myself and two or three others have been telling you that for the last 18 months.

 

 

 

I think I've been telling you there is something wrong with the finances at the club for a lot longer than that, yet you've always trotted out the same line about all clubs having debt etc while ignoring the reasons for these clubs being in debt in the first place.

 

You do realise that Ashley has had to guarantee to support us financially otherwise we would be in administration?

 

The thing is I know you realise this but you're such an idiot that you won't admit what a mess we're in, thinking that if we keep spending money (even if we haven't got any) that everything will be ok.

 

ManU, Liverpool and Arsenal are also in serious debt, so according to you they must in real shit street and their supporters must therefore be devastated.

 

Other than that, I'm not interested in your opinions.

 

Also, only idiots still appear to think Ashleys setup will bring success to Newcastle and continuing with this DOF bollocks is a good idea.

 

 

[fredbob]

NE5, do you think the players we've brought in we're better replacemnts than the ones we've allowed to leave?

[Baggio]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

like I said, wait until you've had a dose of 2nd division football and sub 30,000 crowds for a few years and see what that does for the finances, unless you stupidly think all the successful clubs also have bulging bank acconts. Get another owner like your man Ashley to succeed him [easily possible, or worse] and the european qualifications, capacity stadiums, England players will be a golden era to you and others. You certainly won't bother yourself travelling to games when Bristol City are on a par with Newcastle.

 

Then again, you won't admit your DOF bollocks has been proved to be exactly that ie propelling us the way of Leeds.

 

 

 

I don't think all clubs have bulging bank accounts but when you hardly spend any money on transfers and the club is still losing money then it's clear that something is seriously wrong, you seem to struggle to get your head around this though for some reason and think the club has a bottomless pit of money.

 

I don't, but I know what it takes to get relegated. And the results of it.

 

I don't suppose you do, as you don't even think a manager has the right to manage the club in the way he sees fit.

 

You're right about something being seriously wrong though, myself and two or three others have been telling you that for the last 18 months.

 

 

 

I think I've been telling you there is something wrong with the finances at the club for a lot longer than that, yet you've always trotted out the same line about all clubs having debt etc while ignoring the reasons for these clubs being in debt in the first place.

 

You do realise that Ashley has had to guarantee to support us financially otherwise we would be in administration?

 

The thing is I know you realise this but you're such an idiot that you won't admit what a mess we're in, thinking that if we keep spending money (even if we haven't got any) that everything will be ok.

 

ManU, Liverpool and Arsenal are also in serious debt, so according to you they must in real shit street and their supporters must therefore be devastated.

 

Other than that, I'm not interested in your opinions.

 

Also, only idiots still appear to think Ashleys setup will bring success to Newcastle and continuing with this DOF bollocks is a good idea.

 

 

 

Wow! I didn't expect you to prove that point straight away.

 

You've really outdone yourself this time.

[Lotus]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

like I said, wait until you've had a dose of 2nd division football and sub 30,000 crowds for a few years and see what that does for the finances, unless you stupidly think all the successful clubs also have bulging bank acconts. Get another owner like your man Ashley to succeed him [easily possible, or worse] and the european qualifications, capacity stadiums, England players will be a golden era to you and others. You certainly won't bother yourself travelling to games when Bristol City are on a par with Newcastle.

 

Then again, you won't admit your DOF bollocks has been proved to be exactly that ie propelling us the way of Leeds.

 

 

 

I don't think all clubs have bulging bank accounts but when you hardly spend any money on transfers and the club is still losing money then it's clear that something is seriously wrong, you seem to struggle to get your head around this though for some reason and think the club has a bottomless pit of money.

 

I don't, but I know what it takes to get relegated. And the results of it.

 

I don't suppose you do, as you don't even think a manager has the right to manage the club in the way he sees fit.

 

You're right about something being seriously wrong though, myself and two or three others have been telling you that for the last 18 months.

 

 

 

I think I've been telling you there is something wrong with the finances at the club for a lot longer than that, yet you've always trotted out the same line about all clubs having debt etc while ignoring the reasons for these clubs being in debt in the first place.

 

You do realise that Ashley has had to guarantee to support us financially otherwise we would be in administration?

 

The thing is I know you realise this but you're such an idiot that you won't admit what a mess we're in, thinking that if we keep spending money (even if we haven't got any) that everything will be ok.

 

ManU, Liverpool and Arsenal are also in serious debt, so according to you they must in real s*** street and their supporters must therefore be devastated.

 

Other than that, I'm not interested in your opinions.

 

Also, only idiots still appear to think Ashleys setup will bring success to Newcastle and continuing with this DOF bollocks is a good idea.

 

 

 

I guess being in debt is fine as long as you can afford the repayments, like a mortgage. Problems start when you can't afford the repayments and/or what you owe is more than the worth of your asset. We seem to be operating at a loss (if this is all true), does it register with you what that actually means?

 

[NE5]

Do you have any opinion on the club accounts NE5 or what?

 

You show me who is making a profit in football ?

 

The accounts will look a damn sight worse if the club is relegated and gates are halved, I can tell you that much.

 

 

 

So the fact the club isn't spending any money and is still making a loss doesn't matter because not many clubs make a profit in football?

 

Blows a hole in the theory that idiots like yourself thought running a football club was the same as running a high street business doesn't it ?

 

Surely an astute businessman like Mike should have sorted it out by now ? Oh aye, its sell all the best players, get relegated, and come back up again with footballers found in the 4th division on Sports Direct type prices.

 

Why didn't Alex Ferguson, and closer to home, the Halls and Shepherd, think of that one when they found us, eeer,, with one foot in the 3rd division through trying to put together a good football team at Sports Direct type prices.

 

 

[oldtype]

Guys, stop ganging up on the poor old man. 

 

Let him self-destruct at his own pace.

[NE5]

Good luck to him if he goes but I think if the money is invested in the right positions it will be more use to us than Shay will this season and in the future.

 

Harper will do a good job if he's needed.

 

losers attitude, and back to the days of being 2nd raters.

 

 

 

It's an attitude of someone accepting the current financial position at the club, something which you don't as you've avoided the thread about the clubs latest set of accounts like the plague.

 

like I said, wait until you've had a dose of 2nd division football and sub 30,000 crowds for a few years and see what that does for the finances, unless you stupidly think all the successful clubs also have bulging bank acconts. Get another owner like your man Ashley to succeed him [easily possible, or worse] and the european qualifications, capacity stadiums, England players will be a golden era to you and others. You certainly won't bother yourself travelling to games when Bristol City are on a par with Newcastle.

 

Then again, you won't admit your DOF bollocks has been proved to be exactly that ie propelling us the way of Leeds.

 

 

 

I don't think all clubs have bulging bank accounts but when you hardly spend any money on transfers and the club is still losing money then it's clear that something is seriously wrong, you seem to struggle to get your head around this though for some reason and think the club has a bottomless pit of money.

 

I don't, but I know what it takes to get relegated. And the results of it.

 

I don't suppose you do, as you don't even think a manager has the right to manage the club in the way he sees fit.

 

You're right about something being seriously wrong though, myself and two or three others have been telling you that for the last 18 months.

 

 

 

I think I've been telling you there is something wrong with the finances at the club for a lot longer than that, yet you've always trotted out the same line about all clubs having debt etc while ignoring the reasons for these clubs being in debt in the first place.

 

You do realise that Ashley has had to guarantee to support us financially otherwise we would be in administration?

 

The thing is I know you realise this but you're such an idiot that you won't admit what a mess we're in, thinking that if we keep spending money (even if we haven't got any) that everything will be ok.

 

ManU, Liverpool and Arsenal are also in serious debt, so according to you they must in real s*** street and their supporters must therefore be devastated.

 

Other than that, I'm not interested in your opinions.

 

Also, only idiots still appear to think Ashleys setup will bring success to Newcastle and continuing with this DOF bollocks is a good idea.

 

 

 

I guess being in debt is fine as long as you can afford the repayments, like a mortgage. Problems start when you can't afford the repayments and/or what you owe is more than the worth of your asset. We seem to be operating at a loss (if this is all true), does it register with you what that actually means?

 

 

eeerrr.......I know what a mortgage is, what a loss is, and I'm quite comfortable with my lifestyle, if thats OK.