nufchk Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Jimenez where are you :weep: these deals are ShXT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Jimenez where are you :weep: these deals are ShXT We'll be fine with the dream team of Ashley, Llambas and Kinnear man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Sad to see him go, could have released a statement through his agent thanking the fans. Done his time here, we have cover and we needed the dosh. Sad end but i'd rather have players who are here for the fight. Where did this 5.9 mil figure come from? Paper, must be true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Magpie007 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Whoever is responsible for negotiations at the club wants sacked if the stories about Shay are true. £5.9 M over 4 years is a total joke – do no one tell them that they are the richest club in the world and happy to pay way over the odds for players if you just keep telling them NO he’s not for sale. He was our player and under contract we were in a strong position to broker a deal in our favour player + cash or large fee whatever suited us best. Now we have had a bid turned down for Johnson as they do not want to sell him. While they were chasing Shay we should have said we wanted Johnson and any sale hinged on him coming to us. Also what happened to the 2 loan players that we had agreed deals with and where are the other 2 players that JFK said should be signing before the window closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 So we've sold our best player at a reduced price? And then failed to reinvest it on a player who might keep us up? Nice one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The money for player sales will always be downplayed. The money we pay for players will always be exaggerated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 So we've sold our best player at a reduced price? And then failed to reinvest it on a player who might keep us up? Nice one. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I don't know if the fee banded around is true (if it is then that's disgraceful), but I do know the way we "negotiated" in this deal was always going to knock a few million of the transfer fee. You don't let a want-away player speak to a proposed club before they've offered a fee you're comfortable with ffs! Puts you in the shit when they come back to negotiate and there's no way back.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I don't know if the fee banded around is true Would be nice if someone revealed it, just to make sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I don't know if the fee banded around is true Would be nice if someone revealed it, just to make sure. Your point being..? When we agreed to let Given talk to City before agreeing a transfer fee I expressed my concerns about the wisdom of the decision as it would have a negative impact on our negotiation position. Different paper reports now suggest we have got a derisory fee for him. I can't validate these figures, but this is coming from various sources and there is no smoke without fire. I also know that if the fee reported would have been 15 million people like you would be praising "the system" for how well it negotiates for outgoing players. Is it inconceivable they fucked this one up RM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Eh? I'm not disagreeing with you. I don't have a point, I'd just like to know for sure so I can make a totally fair judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Eh? I'm not disagreeing with you. I don't have a point, I'd just like to know for sure so I can make a totally fair judgement. Ok, fair enough.. Misunderstood your post. Apologies.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest north shields lad Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Goalkeepers always go for less, he is geeting on, although for a keeper still in the middle of his career, and he had put in a transfer request. 6 million isnt that bad, if we had managed to spend it. Oh and the window is still open to loan someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm still wondering how an offer of £5m is considered derisory, when £5.9m is acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm still wondering how an offer of £5m is considered derisory, when £5.9m is acceptable. Anything under 10 million is derisory considering we sold our best player to a club throwing money around left, right and center. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I don't understand why there wasn't a player included in the deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sniffer Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 What do you not understand about ashley wanting the money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm still wondering how an offer of £5m is considered derisory, when £5.9m is acceptable. Could be something to do with the fact the £5.9m figure came from a paper people would laugh at if it was anything positive. Sad thing is, this paints the deal in a negative light so the figure is now gospel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I don't understand why there wasn't a player included in the deal. Because it was concluded close to the deadline, and involving another player would be another hurdle. If the player coming our way backed out at the last minute, Man City would risk not getting Given. Also, Man City weren't especially keen on giving us one of their decent players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I said weeks ago that I wouldn't accept any amount of money because it wouldn't be reinvested and the only players I would have taken were Robinho and Ireland because they're the only ones at Citeh who come close to Shay's worth. £6m is disgusting. Guess that idea of the club being brilliant at getting money out of clubs is another load of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I don't understand why there wasn't a player included in the deal. i dont understand why we let him go and THEN tried to do the deal for Johnson. totally baffling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 What do you not understand about ashley wanting the money? Because they bid 8m for a Man City player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I don't understand why there wasn't a player included in the deal. i dont understand why we let him go and THEN tried to do the deal for Johnson. totally baffling. This is the mystery of the day for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I bet City are fucking pissing themselves tonight. 'Give us Shay, you can have Johnson.' 'Yeah, okay. Here's Shay.' 'Thanks.' 'Can we have Johnson then?' 'No. ' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The reason why a fee hasn't been mentioned is because of the staggering amount they've paid for him, they basically spent the Kaka money on him and with the recession and dying in Africa they don't want the criticism that would follow so we all agreed to not disclose the fee. That's why we haven't bought anyone else, Ashley got lost under the pile of money and is still under there. The good news though is that Ashley now has his money back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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