Thespence Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Very good coach by all accounts so I can only this as a positive. Done a very good job at Northampton and got Forest promoted after all. Where has he been a good coach at? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 View from Forrest fan and BBC Newcastle fella, Matt Newsum - "I must profess at first I was tempted to joke about yet another Nottingham Forest manager turning up at St James' Park? Who next? Frank Clark? However, I am pleased that Colin Calderwood has found himself a new post, even if it is just as a coach until the end of the season. Fact is, in my humble opinion, he's a likeable bloke. I had the pleasure once, in The Dragon pub in Nottingham, and he was a top fella - agreed to have his photo taken with me and a quick natter about Forest's fortunes. And although quite rightly in some circumstances he's had a fair bit of stick from Forest fans, he's not been all bad. He introduced a lot of youngsters to the side, Matt Thornhill, Emile Sinclair and latterly the impressive Brendan Moloney have all made the progression from youth team to first-team under Calderwood's management. Also his work in the transfer market wasn't too disasterous... he signed and then sold Junior Agogo for profit, he brought in Nathan Tyson, who has become a fans favourite, and his use of the loan market has seen Paul Anderson arrive at the City Ground. Even when the Neil Lennon signing went wrong, it was a positive sign for Calderwood that his persuasive and ambitious nature was a factor in his moving from Celtic (SPL champs, European Champions League entrants...) to Forest (League One promotion scrappers). The main gripe with Calderwood was of a tactical nature. With the players at our disposal you felt we could pick teams apart at will in League One, but the Scot's pragmatic, dour methods meant we often laboured to beat teams that we should have buried (on paper). Sometimes we got it right - a 5-1 demolition of Huddersfield lingers long in the memory, a 3-0 exhibition of football at home to Cheltenham and of course last season's 3-2 last day win against Yeovil. Then there were those bad days. The days where we sent our fans home miserable from places like Hartlepool, Leyton Orient and Swindon, messing up accumulators and weekends throughout the country. One evening summed it all up. Yeovil Town, League One play-off semi-final, 2-0 up from the first-leg. Two shellshocked hours later and it's 5-4. To Yeovil. On our own ground. Calderwood's defensive tactics, substitutions and a series of daft decisions by players sank us to the most galling and heart-breaking of defeats. It was a clear embodiment of what supporting Forest under Calderwood was about. However, he's obviously been brought in for a purpose at Newcastle and I would presume it's a defensive one. As a player he was lionhearted as a centre-half, and his outlook on the game tactically is defensive. He's also a former colleague of Chris Hughton, when the Magpies' assistant was a coach at Tottenham. I wish him well. He got us promoted, he's a nice fella. Whether or not he can have an impact at St James' only time will tell." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Banaloona Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Very good coach by all accounts so I can only this as a positive. Done a very good job at Northampton and got Forest promoted after all. Where has he been a good coach at? In his previous jobs....... the negativity on this board is unreal. Either support the club rather than moaning everytime the club makes an appointment or signs a player. Its a fact he done a good job at Northampton..... Its a fact he done a good job at Forest, getting promotion is better than all other previous managers in there recent history managed..... Give the bloke a chance...... after all employing him wont be the reason we go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 NOT good enough. why havent we offered rob lee or gary speed a coaching role ffs?! they are much better coaches. /basedonnothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I'm pleased, we need more coaching stuff. Hopefully he's a good character. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 indifferent tbh... but hopefully he'll do a good job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Another 'til the end of the season' contracts - that's three now if you include him, Kinnear and Lovenkrands. No wonder we aren't signing anyone. The uncertainty of the future of the club (owner wise, manager wise, league wise and Dennis Wise) is preventing us from moving forward at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Another 'til the end of the season' contracts - that's three now if you include him, Kinnear and Lovenkrands. No wonder we aren't signing anyone. The uncertainty of the future of the club (owner wise, manager wise, league wise and Dennis Wise) is preventing us from moving forward at all. And yet we are meant to believe the club is no longer up for sale and that we are "Driving the club forward". A wanky summer ahead I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Surely if he's coming here as a coach with Kinnear then it makes sense to give him a contract for the same length of time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Another 'til the end of the season' contracts - that's three now if you include him, Kinnear and Lovenkrands. No wonder we aren't signing anyone. The uncertainty of the future of the club (owner wise, manager wise, league wise and Dennis Wise) is preventing us from moving forward at all. And yet we are meant to believe the club is no longer up for sale and that we are "Driving the club forward". A wanky summer ahead I think I don't get it. Are people suddenly crying out for Kinnear, Calderwood and Lovenkrands to be signed up on long term contracts? You're all mad. This is madness! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Another 'til the end of the season' contracts - that's three now if you include him, Kinnear and Lovenkrands. No wonder we aren't signing anyone. The uncertainty of the future of the club (owner wise, manager wise, league wise and Dennis Wise) is preventing us from moving forward at all. And yet we are meant to believe the club is no longer up for sale and that we are "Driving the club forward". A wanky summer ahead I think I don't get it. Are people suddenly crying out for Kinnear, Calderwood and Lovenkrands to be signed up on long term contracts? You're all mad. This is madness! this place is a bastard ain't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 COLIN Calderwood has officially joined Newcastle United's coaching staff – as first revealed in the Evening Post last week. The Scot has linked up with fellow former Nottingham Forest manager Joe Kinnear at St James' Park. Calderwood may combine the role with a part-time position as head coach of the Faroe Islands. The Faroe Islands Football Association claim Calderwood has agreed to take on the job ahead of a friendly against Iceland in March. The former Mansfield, Swindon, Spurs, Aston Villa, Forest and Notts County centre-half will be a specialist defensive coach. Kinnear said: "We have Colin Calderwood on board now, and he will be joining us until the end of the season to bring something else to our backroom team." It is understood Calderwood held initial talks over the role early last week but played down reports that he was set to join the Premiership club until the deal was agreed. Not sure which defence needs the most work on... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I don't get it. Are people suddenly crying out for Kinnear, Calderwood and Lovenkrands to be signed up on long term contracts? No, I'm just expecting our dear owner's actions to match his words. "The club is off the market, I'm in it for the long term now" is one thing, offering 6 month contracts to people is another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I don't get it. Are people suddenly crying out for Kinnear, Calderwood and Lovenkrands to be signed up on long term contracts? No, I'm just expecting our dear owner's actions to match his words. "The club is off the market, I'm in it for the long term now" is one thing, offering 6 month contracts to people is another. The Kinnear offer was considered logical, as he was hoping to sell up. Lovenkrands was logical, as we want to see how well he fares. Calderwood could have said, I'll take the contract for 6 months, and if JK buggers off, maybe I'll bugger off with him should he get another job. Not entirely fantasy stuff there me thinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I don't get it. Are people suddenly crying out for Kinnear, Calderwood and Lovenkrands to be signed up on long term contracts? No, I'm just expecting our dear owner's actions to match his words. "The club is off the market, I'm in it for the long term now" is one thing, offering 6 month contracts to people is another. But we don't know what is happening with Kinnear yet so it would make no sense with him being on a contract until the end of the season to offer a coach he's bringing in a 3 year deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I don't get it. Are people suddenly crying out for Kinnear, Calderwood and Lovenkrands to be signed up on long term contracts? No, I'm just expecting our dear owner's actions to match his words. "The club is off the market, I'm in it for the long term now" is one thing, offering 6 month contracts to people is another. But we don't know what is happening with Kinnear yet so it would make no sense with him being on a contract until the end of the season to offer a coach he's bringing in a 3 year deal. Exactly. If we'd handed Lovenkrands, Kinnear & Calderwood three-year deals there'd have been hell on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I don't get it. Are people suddenly crying out for Kinnear, Calderwood and Lovenkrands to be signed up on long term contracts? No, I'm just expecting our dear owner's actions to match his words. "The club is off the market, I'm in it for the long term now" is one thing, offering 6 month contracts to people is another. But we don't know what is happening with Kinnear yet so it would make no sense with him being on a contract until the end of the season to offer a coach he's bringing in a 3 year deal. Well why did he give Ameobi a three-year deal then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I don't get it. Are people suddenly crying out for Kinnear, Calderwood and Lovenkrands to be signed up on long term contracts? No, I'm just expecting our dear owner's actions to match his words. "The club is off the market, I'm in it for the long term now" is one thing, offering 6 month contracts to people is another. But we don't know what is happening with Kinnear yet so it would make no sense with him being on a contract until the end of the season to offer a coach he's bringing in a 3 year deal. Well why did he give Ameobi a three-year deal then? Because Shola will have a re sale value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Surely if he's coming here as a coach with Kinnear then it makes sense to give him a contract for the same length of time? You'd have thought so. The same people would moan if he'd been given a three year deal. They just like to moan about everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Welcome aboard colin, good luck! (you'll need it!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 At least it's not just Kinnear and Hughton anymore, the amount of work Hughton has done this season he deserves a massive bonus and a fucking medal, even though he was pretty toss as a caretaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Boooo! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 FORMER Scotland, Tottenham and Swindon defender Colin Calderwood has joined Newcastle United as a first-team coach. Calderwood, who was at the training ground today, had initially been cool on talk he was moving to Tyneside. However, once Joe Kinnear heard the former Nottingham Forest boss was keen to get back into the game following his City Ground exit, he made moves to bring him to St James’s Park to help work with the defence. Kinnear told the Chronicle: "We have Colin Calderwood on board now, and he will be joining us until the end of the season to bring something else to our backroom team." With a bit of luck they'll leave the club at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Surely if he's coming here as a coach with Kinnear then it makes sense to give him a contract for the same length of time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Cant see the what people are bitching about here tbh. We clearly needed at least one more coach and have been stretched for months. Calderwood knows some of the staff and is a highly rated young coach, with experience at different club levels. If anything things have been getting stale around the club with Kinnear, (if they werent as soon as he got here) it might at worst shake things up a little. Its only a short term contract so we arent lumbered with him if he doesnt work out. Do we need to cut him and share geordie blood and get him to renounce all claims of history with other clubs before he is allowed to sign a contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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