NE5 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Really it should be both and I'm hopeful it will be. And if not? A question to you and the open forum. Really it should be both and I'm hopeful it will be. And if not? A question to you and the open forum. Everyone has a choice how they want to spend their money. If you don't think you are getting value for it then spend it somewhere else. go somewhere else for the product eh ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Well, all these goings on will make for great satire one day anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4413/dscn6062.jpg In general, I thought it went well, although I was a bit disappointed about that particular banner, which is not an NUSC one. Why did NUSC allow it to be there then? Free country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i hadn't planned on going to the monument yesterday but ended up having to meet someone there so got there to hear Steve Hastie's speech and thought it was very good and while i didn't agree with all of it i was agreeing with most of it. I am also a member of NUSC and was disappointed with the ashley-wise out flag, although it was to the back and side and not in full view thankfully. Also ended up standing to an Everton fan, an oldish bloke, probably in his 60's, he stood there claaping and agreeing with the speech and walked away at the end saying to me and my mate that he can't believe that our supporters are sitting back allowing Ashley to destroy a great football club! Anyway for anyone not there yesterday, here is the speech in full..... no doubt it will get torn to shreds by NUSC critics. THIS IS THE SPEECH THAT WAS MADE ON THE DAY Can I start by paying tribute to two people today Firstly Joe Kinnear. We wish Joe well, as he recovers from his heart operation; get well soon and take care Joe, our best wishes to you and your family. Secondly can i pay tribute to someone who, more than anyone else has shown dignity in adversity and a fighters spirit as he battles once again with cancer. Sir Bobby Robson. Happy birthday for earlier in the week Sir Bobby. How privileged we are in the north east to have such a person as sir bobby, raising so much money for his foundation. Thank you. Why did NUSC call this rally together We did so because NUSC believe that we stand here at a crossroads in the history of Newcastle United A time when situations on the pitch are being effected more than ever by the total mis-management of the club at boardroom level Mis-management by people who have no soul in Newcastle United; who are not supporters of Newcastle United and have no handle on what Newcastle United means to the city, its people and all who wear their colours with pride. People who show no respect to the fans As we ponder on past performance and wait excitedly for the next game, full of tension, hope and expectation that it will be the turning point; we want to walk proudly around this city full in the knowledge that our football club is doing us proud We want to go into work on a Monday morning, bouyed by a performance of skill and endeavour and a result to match. We want to sit in pubs and clubs before a match, full of expectation for what we are about to be served But sadly, we haven’t been experiencing that this last few months. We feel let down by the people running our club; by the performances we have witnessed and the words we have had to listen to. We are not interested in who earns what; Our loyalty is to the black and white shirt We love our club But we are in despair when decisions are being made that seem to jeopardise that position Nobody should think that questioning what is happening at Newcastle United is in any way a sign of disloyalty Disloyalty to whom; certainly not the players who are paid handsomely And alongside whom, we kick every ball and tread on every blade of grass. People who are privaleged to represent Newcastle United to the club; certainly not; never we care – we care passionately and we are proud that we care. but we will not stand back and see newcastle United be devalued and defaced by people who do not understand Newcastle United Custodians who see their job as selling the pies and chips; people who employ the odious Dennis Wise to do their dirty work; People with no understanding of the workings of a football club. People who wait for months for the transfer window to open and then spend the last 12 hours of a 34 day window scrambling around trying to do deals that frankly weren’t even there to be done. People who drove the best goalkeeper in the premiership out of our club by failing to deliver the promises made of taking the club forward; of investing and of building a team worthy of the shirt People who strived to undermine the management structure; to destroy the hopes and dreams of many who saw kevin keegan as the man to put the building blocks back into place at our club and because of whom many thousands of us loyal supporters have paid handsomely in advance to be part of the dream for the next three years We were told 18 months ago we aspire to be arsenal Now we’re told its Aston Villa Who will it be tomorrow; Wigan, or West Brom ? Mike Ashley bought Newcastle United to, in his words “have some fun” Well mike, I hope you are enjoying it, because at the moment we certainly aren’t You thought you were getting a bargain; yet you failed to do your homework and got stiffed by sir john hall, who conveniently failed to mention the mortgage he lumbered you with. If that’s true mike; why is Sir John still life president of the club; why have you not banished him from the directors box and left him to watch the games on some dodgy foreign satellite channel Why do your spokespeople and club insiders bleat on about the shepherd and hall era; the debt , the potential financial meltdown yet fail to mention champions league and uefa cup football; the fantastic stadium, the two fa cup finals, and two semi finals the charity shield; the uefa cup semi final ; the world record signings; or the entertainers, asprilla, ferdinand, batty, albert, peacock, pav, shearer, ginola, lee, barton, beresford, clark, watson, sellers, beardsley, cole, solano, - what we had and what we aspire to have again Why; is it because your so called plan won’t warrant such talent; won’t bring such entertaining football and will be built on sand if it is being managed by the current bunch of clowns running the club. We know Shepherd and Hall fleeced the club of millions during their tenure; we also know that you gave them £136m We know you wanted to sell the club as soon as you bought it; we know your blunder has cost you millions more And it will continue to do so while you sit back and allow it to be mis-managed. So where is your plan mike ? does it exist ? is it still in the draft stage ? or is it an aspiration rather than a fact Is the plan to still sell the club if the opportunity arises; if so tell us and we will help you sell it; Sell it on the back of the 52,000 who used to come through the door; And the 52,000 who will come back through the door if the right buyer comes along and manages the club correctly - a proper custodian with the best interests of the city, its people and its supporters at heart. Don’t patronise us; we can sell your club for you; after all its us the fans as much as the club that you are selling. The club is no good without the supporters; we are the people that breath the life into it Don’t accuse us of being impatient; we’ve waited 54 years for domestic success and will wait another 54 as long as we see progress, given the respect we deserve ; are entertained and feel part of it. Mike; we know you can’t be all things to all men, but you can talk to the fans; talk directly to us and give us the benefit of your wisdom on Newcastle United. We respect your privacy but by buying the club you have put yourself up for scrutiny and into the public eye as the owner of more than a football club You’ve bought into the Geordie dream, you’ve bought into the passion. You must understand that and see the responsibility that this brings with it. If you don’t understand that then get out now. Dialogue mike; explain your plan And while you’re on; Explain to us how a casino manager has the experience to go up against well served football executives when negotiating transfers, commercial deals and other football matters Explain how a former player of little real talent and with no ties to the north east can be given the keys to the kingdom when deciding on the playing staff we need, be responsible for transfer dealings yet fail so miserably twice. Explain why you think that the continental management system will work at Newcastle United when it’s been a failure at all other British clubs who have tried it. Explain why Dennis Wise bought players behind Kevin Keegan’s back Explain what happened to the £16m that Joe Kinnear said he had to spend in January Explain why we are only buying players for cash but selling them to clubs who pay in instalments Explain why a club you aspire to be like – Aston Villa – have spend over £80m in the last three years yet we have made a profit in transfer dealings in every transfer window since you arrived. Kevin Keegan is now history; we know that, so why belittle us with a belief that we only aspire to bringing him back and want to talk constantly about him; .... we don’t And if you talked to us and listened to us you would know that If we are in this together talk to the fans mike; talk Its not sports direct we want mike ..... Its talk direct Newcastle United is our club. it doesn't matter who pays the bills or whose name hangs over the door. Newcastle United is central to the hearts and minds of the Geordie nation. We are the club and in desperate times and times of need it’s us, the supporters of Newcastle United, who rise up as one when they need us. And right now they need us. From the first whistle to the last we support the team and we back them 100%. We leave our differences aside and stand as one, a Newcastle United. United in the common goal, to see a successful team on the pitch and leave the day with 3 more points. 3 precious points that edge us closer to safety. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC who will give our all to help the team achieve that, today and every time the whistle goes. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC, who are the biggest asset this club has and we can make a difference when we stand as one to achieve the same goals. Newcastle United will never be defeated! So what can we do about it ? We can be united; that’s what; we can stand shoulder to shoulder; we can put pressure on the club by sheer weight of numbers; by getting behind the banner of NUSC as an organisation that speaks for the fans, looks out for the fans and who can question the validity of what the club administration and executives are doing. An organisation who can fight and argue for the return of the 2.5% vat that the club is withholding from those who have paid in advance and who have elected to set up direct debits for the following two seasons. The club is refusing to pass on the vat reduction on the grounds that you decided to join the scheme last June, even though you don’t start paying until February 2009. A club who can take forward issues such as standing at the match; at inadequate and aggressive stewarding Together we can make a difference. I urge every member of NUSC to make it their business to go out and find a further 10 members As our membership grows, so will our strength and so will the need for the club to listen to our united voice. This is not a fight about personalities or ego’s. it is about getting together to restore Newcastle United to its position as the entertainers of English football; about being united in our ideals; being everybody else’s second club. In the next 13 games we Newcastle supporters will be doing everything we can to ensure that our premier league status is secured; supporting the team on the pitch We will also be watching every move that the executives of Newcastle United make to ensure that they are not wriggling out of their commitments; Mike Ashley; we’re watching you. mess this up at your peril. I thank you Howay the lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Maximum waffle and a total absence of practical suggestions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Mess this up at your peril? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 The best thing NUSC could do is shut up and fuck off tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Mess this up at your peril? One of the bits i didn't agree with!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Mess this up at your peril? One of the bits i didn't agree with!! Fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Amy Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Kevin Keegan is now history; we know that, so why belittle us with a belief that we only aspire to bringing him back and want to talk constantly about him; .... we don’t erm, so why did you mention him twice before that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brummiemag Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i hadn't planned on going to the monument yesterday but ended up having to meet someone there so got there to hear Steve Hastie's speech and thought it was very good and while i didn't agree with all of it i was agreeing with most of it. I am also a member of NUSC and was disappointed with the ashley-wise out flag, although it was to the back and side and not in full view thankfully. Also ended up standing to an Everton fan, an oldish bloke, probably in his 60's, he stood there claaping and agreeing with the speech and walked away at the end saying to me and my mate that he can't believe that our supporters are sitting back allowing Ashley to destroy a great football club! Anyway for anyone not there yesterday, here is the speech in full..... no doubt it will get torn to shreds by NUSC critics. THIS IS THE SPEECH THAT WAS MADE ON THE DAY Can I start by paying tribute to two people today Firstly Joe Kinnear. We wish Joe well, as he recovers from his heart operation; get well soon and take care Joe, our best wishes to you and your family. Secondly can i pay tribute to someone who, more than anyone else has shown dignity in adversity and a fighters spirit as he battles once again with cancer. Sir Bobby Robson. Happy birthday for earlier in the week Sir Bobby. How privileged we are in the north east to have such a person as sir bobby, raising so much money for his foundation. Thank you. Why did NUSC call this rally together We did so because NUSC believe that we stand here at a crossroads in the history of Newcastle United A time when situations on the pitch are being effected more than ever by the total mis-management of the club at boardroom level Mis-management by people who have no soul in Newcastle United; who are not supporters of Newcastle United and have no handle on what Newcastle United means to the city, its people and all who wear their colours with pride. People who show no respect to the fans As we ponder on past performance and wait excitedly for the next game, full of tension, hope and expectation that it will be the turning point; we want to walk proudly around this city full in the knowledge that our football club is doing us proud We want to go into work on a Monday morning, bouyed by a performance of skill and endeavour and a result to match. We want to sit in pubs and clubs before a match, full of expectation for what we are about to be served But sadly, we havent been experiencing that this last few months. We feel let down by the people running our club; by the performances we have witnessed and the words we have had to listen to. We are not interested in who earns what; Our loyalty is to the black and white shirt We love our club But we are in despair when decisions are being made that seem to jeopardise that position Nobody should think that questioning what is happening at Newcastle United is in any way a sign of disloyalty Disloyalty to whom; certainly not the players who are paid handsomely And alongside whom, we kick every ball and tread on every blade of grass. People who are privaleged to represent Newcastle United to the club; certainly not; never we care we care passionately and we are proud that we care. but we will not stand back and see newcastle United be devalued and defaced by people who do not understand Newcastle United Custodians who see their job as selling the pies and chips; people who employ the odious Dennis Wise to do their dirty work; People with no understanding of the workings of a football club. People who wait for months for the transfer window to open and then spend the last 12 hours of a 34 day window scrambling around trying to do deals that frankly werent even there to be done. People who drove the best goalkeeper in the premiership out of our club by failing to deliver the promises made of taking the club forward; of investing and of building a team worthy of the shirt People who strived to undermine the management structure; to destroy the hopes and dreams of many who saw kevin keegan as the man to put the building blocks back into place at our club and because of whom many thousands of us loyal supporters have paid handsomely in advance to be part of the dream for the next three years We were told 18 months ago we aspire to be arsenal Now were told its Aston Villa Who will it be tomorrow; Wigan, or West Brom ? Mike Ashley bought Newcastle United to, in his words have some fun Well mike, I hope you are enjoying it, because at the moment we certainly arent You thought you were getting a bargain; yet you failed to do your homework and got stiffed by sir john hall, who conveniently failed to mention the mortgage he lumbered you with. If thats true mike; why is Sir John still life president of the club; why have you not banished him from the directors box and left him to watch the games on some dodgy foreign satellite channel Why do your spokespeople and club insiders bleat on about the shepherd and hall era; the debt , the potential financial meltdown yet fail to mention champions league and uefa cup football; the fantastic stadium, the two fa cup finals, and two semi finals the charity shield; the uefa cup semi final ; the world record signings; or the entertainers, asprilla, ferdinand, batty, albert, peacock, pav, shearer, ginola, lee, barton, beresford, clark, watson, sellers, beardsley, cole, solano, - what we had and what we aspire to have again Why; is it because your so called plan wont warrant such talent; wont bring such entertaining football and will be built on sand if it is being managed by the current bunch of clowns running the club. We know Shepherd and Hall fleeced the club of millions during their tenure; we also know that you gave them £136m We know you wanted to sell the club as soon as you bought it; we know your blunder has cost you millions more And it will continue to do so while you sit back and allow it to be mis-managed. So where is your plan mike ? does it exist ? is it still in the draft stage ? or is it an aspiration rather than a fact Is the plan to still sell the club if the opportunity arises; if so tell us and we will help you sell it; Sell it on the back of the 52,000 who used to come through the door; And the 52,000 who will come back through the door if the right buyer comes along and manages the club correctly - a proper custodian with the best interests of the city, its people and its supporters at heart. Dont patronise us; we can sell your club for you; after all its us the fans as much as the club that you are selling. The club is no good without the supporters; we are the people that breath the life into it Dont accuse us of being impatient; weve waited 54 years for domestic success and will wait another 54 as long as we see progress, given the respect we deserve ; are entertained and feel part of it. Mike; we know you cant be all things to all men, but you can talk to the fans; talk directly to us and give us the benefit of your wisdom on Newcastle United. We respect your privacy but by buying the club you have put yourself up for scrutiny and into the public eye as the owner of more than a football club Youve bought into the Geordie dream, youve bought into the passion. You must understand that and see the responsibility that this brings with it. If you dont understand that then get out now. Dialogue mike; explain your plan And while youre on; Explain to us how a casino manager has the experience to go up against well served football executives when negotiating transfers, commercial deals and other football matters Explain how a former player of little real talent and with no ties to the north east can be given the keys to the kingdom when deciding on the playing staff we need, be responsible for transfer dealings yet fail so miserably twice. Explain why you think that the continental management system will work at Newcastle United when its been a failure at all other British clubs who have tried it. Explain why Dennis Wise bought players behind Kevin Keegans back Explain what happened to the £16m that Joe Kinnear said he had to spend in January Explain why we are only buying players for cash but selling them to clubs who pay in instalments Explain why a club you aspire to be like Aston Villa have spend over £80m in the last three years yet we have made a profit in transfer dealings in every transfer window since you arrived. Kevin Keegan is now history; we know that, so why belittle us with a belief that we only aspire to bringing him back and want to talk constantly about him; .... we dont And if you talked to us and listened to us you would know that If we are in this together talk to the fans mike; talk Its not sports direct we want mike ..... Its talk direct Newcastle United is our club. it doesn't matter who pays the bills or whose name hangs over the door. Newcastle United is central to the hearts and minds of the Geordie nation. We are the club and in desperate times and times of need its us, the supporters of Newcastle United, who rise up as one when they need us. And right now they need us. From the first whistle to the last we support the team and we back them 100%. We leave our differences aside and stand as one, a Newcastle United. United in the common goal, to see a successful team on the pitch and leave the day with 3 more points. 3 precious points that edge us closer to safety. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC who will give our all to help the team achieve that, today and every time the whistle goes. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC, who are the biggest asset this club has and we can make a difference when we stand as one to achieve the same goals. Newcastle United will never be defeated! So what can we do about it ? We can be united; thats what; we can stand shoulder to shoulder; we can put pressure on the club by sheer weight of numbers; by getting behind the banner of NUSC as an organisation that speaks for the fans, looks out for the fans and who can question the validity of what the club administration and executives are doing. An organisation who can fight and argue for the return of the 2.5% vat that the club is withholding from those who have paid in advance and who have elected to set up direct debits for the following two seasons. The club is refusing to pass on the vat reduction on the grounds that you decided to join the scheme last June, even though you dont start paying until February 2009. A club who can take forward issues such as standing at the match; at inadequate and aggressive stewarding Together we can make a difference. I urge every member of NUSC to make it their business to go out and find a further 10 members As our membership grows, so will our strength and so will the need for the club to listen to our united voice. This is not a fight about personalities or egos. it is about getting together to restore Newcastle United to its position as the entertainers of English football; about being united in our ideals; being everybody elses second club. In the next 13 games we Newcastle supporters will be doing everything we can to ensure that our premier league status is secured; supporting the team on the pitch We will also be watching every move that the executives of Newcastle United make to ensure that they are not wriggling out of their commitments; Mike Ashley; were watching you. mess this up at your peril. I thank you Howay the lads Superb speech, I can't see why anyone would disagree with it. When we're half way down the championship in a couple of years heading for league one it will be interesting to see which people still post on this forum. Yes we will probably survive this season but the way I see it we've years ahead of us with no ambition, in front of crowds below 40k! But dont worry lads they have promised to spend £8 million in the summer, its laughable For fuck sake please wake up and see whats happening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 That speech is a complete joke. Spaffing out the same old bollocks in an overly elaborate way at the most pointless time possible. What they may aswell say is "We NUSC, see this as a good opportunity to try to build up a membership of sad ass moronic whiners who will give us their money to tell the board what they already know we generally think as a fanbase anyway" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Superb speech, I can't see why anyone would disagree with it. When we're half way down the championship in a couple of years heading for league one it will be interesting to see which people still post on this forum. Yes we will probably survive this season but the way I see it we've years ahead of us with no ambition, in front of crowds below 40k! But dont worry lads they have promised to spend £8 million in the summer, its laughable For fuck sake please wake up and see whats happening spot on. Comments about the last line being a bit over dramatic are right too, but you're always going to get that. Do people really expect things in life to be so perfect ? They have a lot to learn. Take the ambitious board for what it is the next time we are lucky enough to have one, warts and all. Some people may, indeed, wake up. These members of the NUSC will still be around if Mike Ashley continues our downward spiral like Sheff Wed but somehow I doubt that a lot of his blind supporters will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Was very disappointed to see a massive 'Ashley + Wise Out' banner when I passed the rally, especially since they had insisted it wasn't a protest. There is a lot to admire about that speech, but a lot of it is also overly critical, personal and aggressive towards Wise and Ashley... also a huge number of assumptions based on speculation along with completely unreasonable requests for detailed information that the club would never share publicly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i hadn't planned on going to the monument yesterday but ended up having to meet someone there so got there to hear Steve Hastie's speech and thought it was very good and while i didn't agree with all of it i was agreeing with most of it. I am also a member of NUSC and was disappointed with the ashley-wise out flag, although it was to the back and side and not in full view thankfully. Also ended up standing to an Everton fan, an oldish bloke, probably in his 60's, he stood there claaping and agreeing with the speech and walked away at the end saying to me and my mate that he can't believe that our supporters are sitting back allowing Ashley to destroy a great football club! Anyway for anyone not there yesterday, here is the speech in full..... no doubt it will get torn to shreds by NUSC critics. THIS IS THE SPEECH THAT WAS MADE ON THE DAY Can I start by paying tribute to two people today Firstly Joe Kinnear. We wish Joe well, as he recovers from his heart operation; get well soon and take care Joe, our best wishes to you and your family. Secondly can i pay tribute to someone who, more than anyone else has shown dignity in adversity and a fighters spirit as he battles once again with cancer. Sir Bobby Robson. Happy birthday for earlier in the week Sir Bobby. How privileged we are in the north east to have such a person as sir bobby, raising so much money for his foundation. Thank you. Why did NUSC call this rally together We did so because NUSC believe that we stand here at a crossroads in the history of Newcastle United A time when situations on the pitch are being effected more than ever by the total mis-management of the club at boardroom level Mis-management by people who have no soul in Newcastle United; who are not supporters of Newcastle United and have no handle on what Newcastle United means to the city, its people and all who wear their colours with pride. People who show no respect to the fans As we ponder on past performance and wait excitedly for the next game, full of tension, hope and expectation that it will be the turning point; we want to walk proudly around this city full in the knowledge that our football club is doing us proud We want to go into work on a Monday morning, bouyed by a performance of skill and endeavour and a result to match. We want to sit in pubs and clubs before a match, full of expectation for what we are about to be served But sadly, we havent been experiencing that this last few months. We feel let down by the people running our club; by the performances we have witnessed and the words we have had to listen to. We are not interested in who earns what; Our loyalty is to the black and white shirt We love our club But we are in despair when decisions are being made that seem to jeopardise that position Nobody should think that questioning what is happening at Newcastle United is in any way a sign of disloyalty Disloyalty to whom; certainly not the players who are paid handsomely And alongside whom, we kick every ball and tread on every blade of grass. People who are privaleged to represent Newcastle United to the club; certainly not; never we care we care passionately and we are proud that we care. but we will not stand back and see newcastle United be devalued and defaced by people who do not understand Newcastle United Custodians who see their job as selling the pies and chips; people who employ the odious Dennis Wise to do their dirty work; People with no understanding of the workings of a football club. People who wait for months for the transfer window to open and then spend the last 12 hours of a 34 day window scrambling around trying to do deals that frankly werent even there to be done. People who drove the best goalkeeper in the premiership out of our club by failing to deliver the promises made of taking the club forward; of investing and of building a team worthy of the shirt People who strived to undermine the management structure; to destroy the hopes and dreams of many who saw kevin keegan as the man to put the building blocks back into place at our club and because of whom many thousands of us loyal supporters have paid handsomely in advance to be part of the dream for the next three years We were told 18 months ago we aspire to be arsenal Now were told its Aston Villa Who will it be tomorrow; Wigan, or West Brom ? Mike Ashley bought Newcastle United to, in his words have some fun Well mike, I hope you are enjoying it, because at the moment we certainly arent You thought you were getting a bargain; yet you failed to do your homework and got stiffed by sir john hall, who conveniently failed to mention the mortgage he lumbered you with. If thats true mike; why is Sir John still life president of the club; why have you not banished him from the directors box and left him to watch the games on some dodgy foreign satellite channel Why do your spokespeople and club insiders bleat on about the shepherd and hall era; the debt , the potential financial meltdown yet fail to mention champions league and uefa cup football; the fantastic stadium, the two fa cup finals, and two semi finals the charity shield; the uefa cup semi final ; the world record signings; or the entertainers, asprilla, ferdinand, batty, albert, peacock, pav, shearer, ginola, lee, barton, beresford, clark, watson, sellers, beardsley, cole, solano, - what we had and what we aspire to have again Why; is it because your so called plan wont warrant such talent; wont bring such entertaining football and will be built on sand if it is being managed by the current bunch of clowns running the club. We know Shepherd and Hall fleeced the club of millions during their tenure; we also know that you gave them £136m We know you wanted to sell the club as soon as you bought it; we know your blunder has cost you millions more And it will continue to do so while you sit back and allow it to be mis-managed. So where is your plan mike ? does it exist ? is it still in the draft stage ? or is it an aspiration rather than a fact Is the plan to still sell the club if the opportunity arises; if so tell us and we will help you sell it; Sell it on the back of the 52,000 who used to come through the door; And the 52,000 who will come back through the door if the right buyer comes along and manages the club correctly - a proper custodian with the best interests of the city, its people and its supporters at heart. Dont patronise us; we can sell your club for you; after all its us the fans as much as the club that you are selling. The club is no good without the supporters; we are the people that breath the life into it Dont accuse us of being impatient; weve waited 54 years for domestic success and will wait another 54 as long as we see progress, given the respect we deserve ; are entertained and feel part of it. Mike; we know you cant be all things to all men, but you can talk to the fans; talk directly to us and give us the benefit of your wisdom on Newcastle United. We respect your privacy but by buying the club you have put yourself up for scrutiny and into the public eye as the owner of more than a football club Youve bought into the Geordie dream, youve bought into the passion. You must understand that and see the responsibility that this brings with it. If you dont understand that then get out now. Dialogue mike; explain your plan And while youre on; Explain to us how a casino manager has the experience to go up against well served football executives when negotiating transfers, commercial deals and other football matters Explain how a former player of little real talent and with no ties to the north east can be given the keys to the kingdom when deciding on the playing staff we need, be responsible for transfer dealings yet fail so miserably twice. Explain why you think that the continental management system will work at Newcastle United when its been a failure at all other British clubs who have tried it. Explain why Dennis Wise bought players behind Kevin Keegans back Explain what happened to the £16m that Joe Kinnear said he had to spend in January Explain why we are only buying players for cash but selling them to clubs who pay in instalments Explain why a club you aspire to be like Aston Villa have spend over £80m in the last three years yet we have made a profit in transfer dealings in every transfer window since you arrived. Kevin Keegan is now history; we know that, so why belittle us with a belief that we only aspire to bringing him back and want to talk constantly about him; .... we dont And if you talked to us and listened to us you would know that If we are in this together talk to the fans mike; talk Its not sports direct we want mike ..... Its talk direct Newcastle United is our club. it doesn't matter who pays the bills or whose name hangs over the door. Newcastle United is central to the hearts and minds of the Geordie nation. We are the club and in desperate times and times of need its us, the supporters of Newcastle United, who rise up as one when they need us. And right now they need us. From the first whistle to the last we support the team and we back them 100%. We leave our differences aside and stand as one, a Newcastle United. United in the common goal, to see a successful team on the pitch and leave the day with 3 more points. 3 precious points that edge us closer to safety. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC who will give our all to help the team achieve that, today and every time the whistle goes. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC, who are the biggest asset this club has and we can make a difference when we stand as one to achieve the same goals. Newcastle United will never be defeated! So what can we do about it ? We can be united; thats what; we can stand shoulder to shoulder; we can put pressure on the club by sheer weight of numbers; by getting behind the banner of NUSC as an organisation that speaks for the fans, looks out for the fans and who can question the validity of what the club administration and executives are doing. An organisation who can fight and argue for the return of the 2.5% vat that the club is withholding from those who have paid in advance and who have elected to set up direct debits for the following two seasons. The club is refusing to pass on the vat reduction on the grounds that you decided to join the scheme last June, even though you dont start paying until February 2009. A club who can take forward issues such as standing at the match; at inadequate and aggressive stewarding Together we can make a difference. I urge every member of NUSC to make it their business to go out and find a further 10 members As our membership grows, so will our strength and so will the need for the club to listen to our united voice. This is not a fight about personalities or egos. it is about getting together to restore Newcastle United to its position as the entertainers of English football; about being united in our ideals; being everybody elses second club. In the next 13 games we Newcastle supporters will be doing everything we can to ensure that our premier league status is secured; supporting the team on the pitch We will also be watching every move that the executives of Newcastle United make to ensure that they are not wriggling out of their commitments; Mike Ashley; were watching you. mess this up at your peril. I thank you Howay the lads Superb speech, I can't see why anyone would disagree with it. When we're half way down the championship in a couple of years heading for league one it will be interesting to see which people still post on this forum. Yes we will probably survive this season but the way I see it we've years ahead of us with no ambition, in front of crowds below 40k! But dont worry lads they have promised to spend £8 million in the summer, its laughable For f*** sake please wake up and see whats happening The 8M isprobably on top of whatever budget we would normally have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edd Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 NUSC have a great opportunity here to be a proper voice for the fans, but they are so obsessed with a single agenda, that's an opportunity they aren't going to take. The rallying cry to get behind the team is fine, but the rest of that speech sounds like the rant of a spoilt 12 year-old. Awkward questions dodged, no solutions, over simplification, unnecessary personal attacks, rumour, speculation, hypocrisy, contradiction. Even as a single agenda action group they could be getting their message across so much better. I'm sure there are thousands of fans unhappy with Ashley who would never join NUSC due to their repeated, poorly worded attempts to get their message across. Whoever wrote the speech and their previous press releases is doing a shocking job (or a great job if you're Mike Ashley) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mucky01 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i hadn't planned on going to the monument yesterday but ended up having to meet someone there so got there to hear Steve Hastie's speech and thought it was very good and while i didn't agree with all of it i was agreeing with most of it. I am also a member of NUSC and was disappointed with the ashley-wise out flag, although it was to the back and side and not in full view thankfully. Also ended up standing to an Everton fan, an oldish bloke, probably in his 60's, he stood there claaping and agreeing with the speech and walked away at the end saying to me and my mate that he can't believe that our supporters are sitting back allowing Ashley to destroy a great football club! Anyway for anyone not there yesterday, here is the speech in full..... no doubt it will get torn to shreds by NUSC critics. THIS IS THE SPEECH THAT WAS MADE ON THE DAY Can I start by paying tribute to two people today Firstly Joe Kinnear. We wish Joe well, as he recovers from his heart operation; get well soon and take care Joe, our best wishes to you and your family. Secondly can i pay tribute to someone who, more than anyone else has shown dignity in adversity and a fighters spirit as he battles once again with cancer. Sir Bobby Robson. Happy birthday for earlier in the week Sir Bobby. How privileged we are in the north east to have such a person as sir bobby, raising so much money for his foundation. Thank you. Why did NUSC call this rally together We did so because NUSC believe that we stand here at a crossroads in the history of Newcastle United A time when situations on the pitch are being effected more than ever by the total mis-management of the club at boardroom level Mis-management by people who have no soul in Newcastle United; who are not supporters of Newcastle United and have no handle on what Newcastle United means to the city, its people and all who wear their colours with pride. People who show no respect to the fans As we ponder on past performance and wait excitedly for the next game, full of tension, hope and expectation that it will be the turning point; we want to walk proudly around this city full in the knowledge that our football club is doing us proud We want to go into work on a Monday morning, bouyed by a performance of skill and endeavour and a result to match. We want to sit in pubs and clubs before a match, full of expectation for what we are about to be served But sadly, we haven’t been experiencing that this last few months. We feel let down by the people running our club; by the performances we have witnessed and the words we have had to listen to. We are not interested in who earns what; Our loyalty is to the black and white shirt We love our club But we are in despair when decisions are being made that seem to jeopardise that position Nobody should think that questioning what is happening at Newcastle United is in any way a sign of disloyalty Disloyalty to whom; certainly not the players who are paid handsomely And alongside whom, we kick every ball and tread on every blade of grass. People who are privaleged to represent Newcastle United to the club; certainly not; never we care – we care passionately and we are proud that we care. but we will not stand back and see newcastle United be devalued and defaced by people who do not understand Newcastle United Custodians who see their job as selling the pies and chips; people who employ the odious Dennis Wise to do their dirty work; People with no understanding of the workings of a football club. People who wait for months for the transfer window to open and then spend the last 12 hours of a 34 day window scrambling around trying to do deals that frankly weren’t even there to be done. People who drove the best goalkeeper in the premiership out of our club by failing to deliver the promises made of taking the club forward; of investing and of building a team worthy of the shirt People who strived to undermine the management structure; to destroy the hopes and dreams of many who saw kevin keegan as the man to put the building blocks back into place at our club and because of whom many thousands of us loyal supporters have paid handsomely in advance to be part of the dream for the next three years We were told 18 months ago we aspire to be arsenal Now we’re told its Aston Villa Who will it be tomorrow; Wigan, or West Brom ? Mike Ashley bought Newcastle United to, in his words “have some fun” Well mike, I hope you are enjoying it, because at the moment we certainly aren’t You thought you were getting a bargain; yet you failed to do your homework and got stiffed by sir john hall, who conveniently failed to mention the mortgage he lumbered you with. If that’s true mike; why is Sir John still life president of the club; why have you not banished him from the directors box and left him to watch the games on some dodgy foreign satellite channel Why do your spokespeople and club insiders bleat on about the shepherd and hall era; the debt , the potential financial meltdown yet fail to mention champions league and uefa cup football; the fantastic stadium, the two fa cup finals, and two semi finals the charity shield; the uefa cup semi final ; the world record signings; or the entertainers, asprilla, ferdinand, batty, albert, peacock, pav, shearer, ginola, lee, barton, beresford, clark, watson, sellers, beardsley, cole, solano, - what we had and what we aspire to have again Why; is it because your so called plan won’t warrant such talent; won’t bring such entertaining football and will be built on sand if it is being managed by the current bunch of clowns running the club. We know Shepherd and Hall fleeced the club of millions during their tenure; we also know that you gave them £136m We know you wanted to sell the club as soon as you bought it; we know your blunder has cost you millions more And it will continue to do so while you sit back and allow it to be mis-managed. So where is your plan mike ? does it exist ? is it still in the draft stage ? or is it an aspiration rather than a fact Is the plan to still sell the club if the opportunity arises; if so tell us and we will help you sell it; Sell it on the back of the 52,000 who used to come through the door; And the 52,000 who will come back through the door if the right buyer comes along and manages the club correctly - a proper custodian with the best interests of the city, its people and its supporters at heart. Don’t patronise us; we can sell your club for you; after all its us the fans as much as the club that you are selling. The club is no good without the supporters; we are the people that breath the life into it Don’t accuse us of being impatient; we’ve waited 54 years for domestic success and will wait another 54 as long as we see progress, given the respect we deserve ; are entertained and feel part of it. Mike; we know you can’t be all things to all men, but you can talk to the fans; talk directly to us and give us the benefit of your wisdom on Newcastle United. We respect your privacy but by buying the club you have put yourself up for scrutiny and into the public eye as the owner of more than a football club You’ve bought into the Geordie dream, you’ve bought into the passion. You must understand that and see the responsibility that this brings with it. If you don’t understand that then get out now. Dialogue mike; explain your plan And while you’re on; Explain to us how a casino manager has the experience to go up against well served football executives when negotiating transfers, commercial deals and other football matters Explain how a former player of little real talent and with no ties to the north east can be given the keys to the kingdom when deciding on the playing staff we need, be responsible for transfer dealings yet fail so miserably twice. Explain why you think that the continental management system will work at Newcastle United when it’s been a failure at all other British clubs who have tried it. Explain why Dennis Wise bought players behind Kevin Keegan’s back Explain what happened to the £16m that Joe Kinnear said he had to spend in January Explain why we are only buying players for cash but selling them to clubs who pay in instalments Explain why a club you aspire to be like – Aston Villa – have spend over £80m in the last three years yet we have made a profit in transfer dealings in every transfer window since you arrived. Kevin Keegan is now history; we know that, so why belittle us with a belief that we only aspire to bringing him back and want to talk constantly about him; .... we don’t And if you talked to us and listened to us you would know that If we are in this together talk to the fans mike; talk Its not sports direct we want mike ..... Its talk direct Newcastle United is our club. it doesn't matter who pays the bills or whose name hangs over the door. Newcastle United is central to the hearts and minds of the Geordie nation. We are the club and in desperate times and times of need it’s us, the supporters of Newcastle United, who rise up as one when they need us. And right now they need us. From the first whistle to the last we support the team and we back them 100%. We leave our differences aside and stand as one, a Newcastle United. United in the common goal, to see a successful team on the pitch and leave the day with 3 more points. 3 precious points that edge us closer to safety. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC who will give our all to help the team achieve that, today and every time the whistle goes. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC, who are the biggest asset this club has and we can make a difference when we stand as one to achieve the same goals. Newcastle United will never be defeated! So what can we do about it ? We can be united; that’s what; we can stand shoulder to shoulder; we can put pressure on the club by sheer weight of numbers; by getting behind the banner of NUSC as an organisation that speaks for the fans, looks out for the fans and who can question the validity of what the club administration and executives are doing. An organisation who can fight and argue for the return of the 2.5% vat that the club is withholding from those who have paid in advance and who have elected to set up direct debits for the following two seasons. The club is refusing to pass on the vat reduction on the grounds that you decided to join the scheme last June, even though you don’t start paying until February 2009. A club who can take forward issues such as standing at the match; at inadequate and aggressive stewarding Together we can make a difference. I urge every member of NUSC to make it their business to go out and find a further 10 members As our membership grows, so will our strength and so will the need for the club to listen to our united voice. This is not a fight about personalities or ego’s. it is about getting together to restore Newcastle United to its position as the entertainers of English football; about being united in our ideals; being everybody else’s second club. In the next 13 games we Newcastle supporters will be doing everything we can to ensure that our premier league status is secured; supporting the team on the pitch We will also be watching every move that the executives of Newcastle United make to ensure that they are not wriggling out of their commitments; Mike Ashley; we’re watching you. mess this up at your peril. I thank you Howay the lads Superb speech, I can't see why anyone would disagree with it. When we're half way down the championship in a couple of years heading for league one it will be interesting to see which people still post on this forum. Yes we will probably survive this season but the way I see it we've years ahead of us with no ambition, in front of crowds below 40k! But dont worry lads they have promised to spend £8 million in the summer, its laughable For f*** sake please wake up and see whats happening The 8M isprobably on top of whatever budget we would normally have. sadly, that’s a hilarious assumption. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i hadn't planned on going to the monument yesterday but ended up having to meet someone there so got there to hear Steve Hastie's speech and thought it was very good and while i didn't agree with all of it i was agreeing with most of it. I am also a member of NUSC and was disappointed with the ashley-wise out flag, although it was to the back and side and not in full view thankfully. Also ended up standing to an Everton fan, an oldish bloke, probably in his 60's, he stood there claaping and agreeing with the speech and walked away at the end saying to me and my mate that he can't believe that our supporters are sitting back allowing Ashley to destroy a great football club! Anyway for anyone not there yesterday, here is the speech in full..... no doubt it will get torn to shreds by NUSC critics. THIS IS THE SPEECH THAT WAS MADE ON THE DAY Can I start by paying tribute to two people today Firstly Joe Kinnear. We wish Joe well, as he recovers from his heart operation; get well soon and take care Joe, our best wishes to you and your family. Secondly can i pay tribute to someone who, more than anyone else has shown dignity in adversity and a fighters spirit as he battles once again with cancer. Sir Bobby Robson. Happy birthday for earlier in the week Sir Bobby. How privileged we are in the north east to have such a person as sir bobby, raising so much money for his foundation. Thank you. Why did NUSC call this rally together We did so because NUSC believe that we stand here at a crossroads in the history of Newcastle United A time when situations on the pitch are being effected more than ever by the total mis-management of the club at boardroom level Mis-management by people who have no soul in Newcastle United; who are not supporters of Newcastle United and have no handle on what Newcastle United means to the city, its people and all who wear their colours with pride. People who show no respect to the fans As we ponder on past performance and wait excitedly for the next game, full of tension, hope and expectation that it will be the turning point; we want to walk proudly around this city full in the knowledge that our football club is doing us proud We want to go into work on a Monday morning, bouyed by a performance of skill and endeavour and a result to match. We want to sit in pubs and clubs before a match, full of expectation for what we are about to be served But sadly, we havent been experiencing that this last few months. We feel let down by the people running our club; by the performances we have witnessed and the words we have had to listen to. We are not interested in who earns what; Our loyalty is to the black and white shirt We love our club But we are in despair when decisions are being made that seem to jeopardise that position Nobody should think that questioning what is happening at Newcastle United is in any way a sign of disloyalty Disloyalty to whom; certainly not the players who are paid handsomely And alongside whom, we kick every ball and tread on every blade of grass. People who are privaleged to represent Newcastle United to the club; certainly not; never we care we care passionately and we are proud that we care. but we will not stand back and see newcastle United be devalued and defaced by people who do not understand Newcastle United Custodians who see their job as selling the pies and chips; people who employ the odious Dennis Wise to do their dirty work; People with no understanding of the workings of a football club. People who wait for months for the transfer window to open and then spend the last 12 hours of a 34 day window scrambling around trying to do deals that frankly werent even there to be done. People who drove the best goalkeeper in the premiership out of our club by failing to deliver the promises made of taking the club forward; of investing and of building a team worthy of the shirt People who strived to undermine the management structure; to destroy the hopes and dreams of many who saw kevin keegan as the man to put the building blocks back into place at our club and because of whom many thousands of us loyal supporters have paid handsomely in advance to be part of the dream for the next three years We were told 18 months ago we aspire to be arsenal Now were told its Aston Villa Who will it be tomorrow; Wigan, or West Brom ? Mike Ashley bought Newcastle United to, in his words have some fun Well mike, I hope you are enjoying it, because at the moment we certainly arent You thought you were getting a bargain; yet you failed to do your homework and got stiffed by sir john hall, who conveniently failed to mention the mortgage he lumbered you with. If thats true mike; why is Sir John still life president of the club; why have you not banished him from the directors box and left him to watch the games on some dodgy foreign satellite channel Why do your spokespeople and club insiders bleat on about the shepherd and hall era; the debt , the potential financial meltdown yet fail to mention champions league and uefa cup football; the fantastic stadium, the two fa cup finals, and two semi finals the charity shield; the uefa cup semi final ; the world record signings; or the entertainers, asprilla, ferdinand, batty, albert, peacock, pav, shearer, ginola, lee, barton, beresford, clark, watson, sellers, beardsley, cole, solano, - what we had and what we aspire to have again Why; is it because your so called plan wont warrant such talent; wont bring such entertaining football and will be built on sand if it is being managed by the current bunch of clowns running the club. We know Shepherd and Hall fleeced the club of millions during their tenure; we also know that you gave them £136m We know you wanted to sell the club as soon as you bought it; we know your blunder has cost you millions more And it will continue to do so while you sit back and allow it to be mis-managed. So where is your plan mike ? does it exist ? is it still in the draft stage ? or is it an aspiration rather than a fact Is the plan to still sell the club if the opportunity arises; if so tell us and we will help you sell it; Sell it on the back of the 52,000 who used to come through the door; And the 52,000 who will come back through the door if the right buyer comes along and manages the club correctly - a proper custodian with the best interests of the city, its people and its supporters at heart. Dont patronise us; we can sell your club for you; after all its us the fans as much as the club that you are selling. The club is no good without the supporters; we are the people that breath the life into it Dont accuse us of being impatient; weve waited 54 years for domestic success and will wait another 54 as long as we see progress, given the respect we deserve ; are entertained and feel part of it. Mike; we know you cant be all things to all men, but you can talk to the fans; talk directly to us and give us the benefit of your wisdom on Newcastle United. We respect your privacy but by buying the club you have put yourself up for scrutiny and into the public eye as the owner of more than a football club Youve bought into the Geordie dream, youve bought into the passion. You must understand that and see the responsibility that this brings with it. If you dont understand that then get out now. Dialogue mike; explain your plan And while youre on; Explain to us how a casino manager has the experience to go up against well served football executives when negotiating transfers, commercial deals and other football matters Explain how a former player of little real talent and with no ties to the north east can be given the keys to the kingdom when deciding on the playing staff we need, be responsible for transfer dealings yet fail so miserably twice. Explain why you think that the continental management system will work at Newcastle United when its been a failure at all other British clubs who have tried it. Explain why Dennis Wise bought players behind Kevin Keegans back Explain what happened to the £16m that Joe Kinnear said he had to spend in January Explain why we are only buying players for cash but selling them to clubs who pay in instalments Explain why a club you aspire to be like Aston Villa have spend over £80m in the last three years yet we have made a profit in transfer dealings in every transfer window since you arrived. Kevin Keegan is now history; we know that, so why belittle us with a belief that we only aspire to bringing him back and want to talk constantly about him; .... we dont And if you talked to us and listened to us you would know that If we are in this together talk to the fans mike; talk Its not sports direct we want mike ..... Its talk direct Newcastle United is our club. it doesn't matter who pays the bills or whose name hangs over the door. Newcastle United is central to the hearts and minds of the Geordie nation. We are the club and in desperate times and times of need its us, the supporters of Newcastle United, who rise up as one when they need us. And right now they need us. From the first whistle to the last we support the team and we back them 100%. We leave our differences aside and stand as one, a Newcastle United. United in the common goal, to see a successful team on the pitch and leave the day with 3 more points. 3 precious points that edge us closer to safety. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC who will give our all to help the team achieve that, today and every time the whistle goes. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC, who are the biggest asset this club has and we can make a difference when we stand as one to achieve the same goals. Newcastle United will never be defeated! So what can we do about it ? We can be united; thats what; we can stand shoulder to shoulder; we can put pressure on the club by sheer weight of numbers; by getting behind the banner of NUSC as an organisation that speaks for the fans, looks out for the fans and who can question the validity of what the club administration and executives are doing. An organisation who can fight and argue for the return of the 2.5% vat that the club is withholding from those who have paid in advance and who have elected to set up direct debits for the following two seasons. The club is refusing to pass on the vat reduction on the grounds that you decided to join the scheme last June, even though you dont start paying until February 2009. A club who can take forward issues such as standing at the match; at inadequate and aggressive stewarding Together we can make a difference. I urge every member of NUSC to make it their business to go out and find a further 10 members As our membership grows, so will our strength and so will the need for the club to listen to our united voice. This is not a fight about personalities or egos. it is about getting together to restore Newcastle United to its position as the entertainers of English football; about being united in our ideals; being everybody elses second club. In the next 13 games we Newcastle supporters will be doing everything we can to ensure that our premier league status is secured; supporting the team on the pitch We will also be watching every move that the executives of Newcastle United make to ensure that they are not wriggling out of their commitments; Mike Ashley; were watching you. mess this up at your peril. I thank you Howay the lads Superb speech, I can't see why anyone would disagree with it. When we're half way down the championship in a couple of years heading for league one it will be interesting to see which people still post on this forum. Yes we will probably survive this season but the way I see it we've years ahead of us with no ambition, in front of crowds below 40k! But dont worry lads they have promised to spend £8 million in the summer, its laughable For f*** sake please wake up and see whats happening The 8M isprobably on top of whatever budget we would normally have. sadly, thats a hilarious assumption. I wouldn't say so, but we don't know so we'll leave it it that. I'm hguessing though they realise the squad will need improving especially up front when we lose Owen and Viduka. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i hadn't planned on going to the monument yesterday but ended up having to meet someone there so got there to hear Steve Hastie's speech and thought it was very good and while i didn't agree with all of it i was agreeing with most of it. I am also a member of NUSC and was disappointed with the ashley-wise out flag, although it was to the back and side and not in full view thankfully. Also ended up standing to an Everton fan, an oldish bloke, probably in his 60's, he stood there claaping and agreeing with the speech and walked away at the end saying to me and my mate that he can't believe that our supporters are sitting back allowing Ashley to destroy a great football club! Anyway for anyone not there yesterday, here is the speech in full..... no doubt it will get torn to shreds by NUSC critics. THIS IS THE SPEECH THAT WAS MADE ON THE DAY Can I start by paying tribute to two people today Firstly Joe Kinnear. We wish Joe well, as he recovers from his heart operation; get well soon and take care Joe, our best wishes to you and your family. Secondly can i pay tribute to someone who, more than anyone else has shown dignity in adversity and a fighters spirit as he battles once again with cancer. Sir Bobby Robson. Happy birthday for earlier in the week Sir Bobby. How privileged we are in the north east to have such a person as sir bobby, raising so much money for his foundation. Thank you. Why did NUSC call this rally together We did so because NUSC believe that we stand here at a crossroads in the history of Newcastle United A time when situations on the pitch are being effected more than ever by the total mis-management of the club at boardroom level Mis-management by people who have no soul in Newcastle United; who are not supporters of Newcastle United and have no handle on what Newcastle United means to the city, its people and all who wear their colours with pride. People who show no respect to the fans As we ponder on past performance and wait excitedly for the next game, full of tension, hope and expectation that it will be the turning point; we want to walk proudly around this city full in the knowledge that our football club is doing us proud We want to go into work on a Monday morning, bouyed by a performance of skill and endeavour and a result to match. We want to sit in pubs and clubs before a match, full of expectation for what we are about to be served But sadly, we haven’t been experiencing that this last few months. We feel let down by the people running our club; by the performances we have witnessed and the words we have had to listen to. We are not interested in who earns what; Our loyalty is to the black and white shirt We love our club But we are in despair when decisions are being made that seem to jeopardise that position Nobody should think that questioning what is happening at Newcastle United is in any way a sign of disloyalty Disloyalty to whom; certainly not the players who are paid handsomely And alongside whom, we kick every ball and tread on every blade of grass. People who are privaleged to represent Newcastle United to the club; certainly not; never we care – we care passionately and we are proud that we care. but we will not stand back and see newcastle United be devalued and defaced by people who do not understand Newcastle United Custodians who see their job as selling the pies and chips; people who employ the odious Dennis Wise to do their dirty work; People with no understanding of the workings of a football club. People who wait for months for the transfer window to open and then spend the last 12 hours of a 34 day window scrambling around trying to do deals that frankly weren’t even there to be done. People who drove the best goalkeeper in the premiership out of our club by failing to deliver the promises made of taking the club forward; of investing and of building a team worthy of the shirt People who strived to undermine the management structure; to destroy the hopes and dreams of many who saw kevin keegan as the man to put the building blocks back into place at our club and because of whom many thousands of us loyal supporters have paid handsomely in advance to be part of the dream for the next three years We were told 18 months ago we aspire to be arsenal Now we’re told its Aston Villa Who will it be tomorrow; Wigan, or West Brom ? Mike Ashley bought Newcastle United to, in his words “have some fun” Well mike, I hope you are enjoying it, because at the moment we certainly aren’t You thought you were getting a bargain; yet you failed to do your homework and got stiffed by sir john hall, who conveniently failed to mention the mortgage he lumbered you with. If that’s true mike; why is Sir John still life president of the club; why have you not banished him from the directors box and left him to watch the games on some dodgy foreign satellite channel Why do your spokespeople and club insiders bleat on about the shepherd and hall era; the debt , the potential financial meltdown yet fail to mention champions league and uefa cup football; the fantastic stadium, the two fa cup finals, and two semi finals the charity shield; the uefa cup semi final ; the world record signings; or the entertainers, asprilla, ferdinand, batty, albert, peacock, pav, shearer, ginola, lee, barton, beresford, clark, watson, sellers, beardsley, cole, solano, - what we had and what we aspire to have again Why; is it because your so called plan won’t warrant such talent; won’t bring such entertaining football and will be built on sand if it is being managed by the current bunch of clowns running the club. We know Shepherd and Hall fleeced the club of millions during their tenure; we also know that you gave them £136m We know you wanted to sell the club as soon as you bought it; we know your blunder has cost you millions more And it will continue to do so while you sit back and allow it to be mis-managed. So where is your plan mike ? does it exist ? is it still in the draft stage ? or is it an aspiration rather than a fact Is the plan to still sell the club if the opportunity arises; if so tell us and we will help you sell it; Sell it on the back of the 52,000 who used to come through the door; And the 52,000 who will come back through the door if the right buyer comes along and manages the club correctly - a proper custodian with the best interests of the city, its people and its supporters at heart. Don’t patronise us; we can sell your club for you; after all its us the fans as much as the club that you are selling. The club is no good without the supporters; we are the people that breath the life into it Don’t accuse us of being impatient; we’ve waited 54 years for domestic success and will wait another 54 as long as we see progress, given the respect we deserve ; are entertained and feel part of it. Mike; we know you can’t be all things to all men, but you can talk to the fans; talk directly to us and give us the benefit of your wisdom on Newcastle United. We respect your privacy but by buying the club you have put yourself up for scrutiny and into the public eye as the owner of more than a football club You’ve bought into the Geordie dream, you’ve bought into the passion. You must understand that and see the responsibility that this brings with it. If you don’t understand that then get out now. Dialogue mike; explain your plan And while you’re on; Explain to us how a casino manager has the experience to go up against well served football executives when negotiating transfers, commercial deals and other football matters Explain how a former player of little real talent and with no ties to the north east can be given the keys to the kingdom when deciding on the playing staff we need, be responsible for transfer dealings yet fail so miserably twice. Explain why you think that the continental management system will work at Newcastle United when it’s been a failure at all other British clubs who have tried it. Explain why Dennis Wise bought players behind Kevin Keegan’s back Explain what happened to the £16m that Joe Kinnear said he had to spend in January Explain why we are only buying players for cash but selling them to clubs who pay in instalments Explain why a club you aspire to be like – Aston Villa – have spend over £80m in the last three years yet we have made a profit in transfer dealings in every transfer window since you arrived. Kevin Keegan is now history; we know that, so why belittle us with a belief that we only aspire to bringing him back and want to talk constantly about him; .... we don’t And if you talked to us and listened to us you would know that If we are in this together talk to the fans mike; talk Its not sports direct we want mike ..... Its talk direct Newcastle United is our club. it doesn't matter who pays the bills or whose name hangs over the door. Newcastle United is central to the hearts and minds of the Geordie nation. We are the club and in desperate times and times of need it’s us, the supporters of Newcastle United, who rise up as one when they need us. And right now they need us. From the first whistle to the last we support the team and we back them 100%. We leave our differences aside and stand as one, a Newcastle United. United in the common goal, to see a successful team on the pitch and leave the day with 3 more points. 3 precious points that edge us closer to safety. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC who will give our all to help the team achieve that, today and every time the whistle goes. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC, who are the biggest asset this club has and we can make a difference when we stand as one to achieve the same goals. Newcastle United will never be defeated! So what can we do about it ? We can be united; that’s what; we can stand shoulder to shoulder; we can put pressure on the club by sheer weight of numbers; by getting behind the banner of NUSC as an organisation that speaks for the fans, looks out for the fans and who can question the validity of what the club administration and executives are doing. An organisation who can fight and argue for the return of the 2.5% vat that the club is withholding from those who have paid in advance and who have elected to set up direct debits for the following two seasons. The club is refusing to pass on the vat reduction on the grounds that you decided to join the scheme last June, even though you don’t start paying until February 2009. A club who can take forward issues such as standing at the match; at inadequate and aggressive stewarding Together we can make a difference. I urge every member of NUSC to make it their business to go out and find a further 10 members As our membership grows, so will our strength and so will the need for the club to listen to our united voice. This is not a fight about personalities or ego’s. it is about getting together to restore Newcastle United to its position as the entertainers of English football; about being united in our ideals; being everybody else’s second club. In the next 13 games we Newcastle supporters will be doing everything we can to ensure that our premier league status is secured; supporting the team on the pitch We will also be watching every move that the executives of Newcastle United make to ensure that they are not wriggling out of their commitments; Mike Ashley; we’re watching you. mess this up at your peril. I thank you Howay the lads Superb speech, I can't see why anyone would disagree with it. When we're half way down the championship in a couple of years heading for league one it will be interesting to see which people still post on this forum. Yes we will probably survive this season but the way I see it we've years ahead of us with no ambition, in front of crowds below 40k! But dont worry lads they have promised to spend £8 million in the summer, its laughable For f*** sake please wake up and see whats happening The 8M isprobably on top of whatever budget we would normally have. sadly, that’s a hilarious assumption. I wouldn't say so, but we don't know so we'll leave it it that. I'm hguessing though they realise the squad will need improving especially up front when we lose Owen and Viduka. As Ameobi has signed a new contract, I can only assume they don't have high sights. It will cost a lot of money to replace those 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Its ok though as the wonderful DOF set up will see Wise getting to blow more money on another Xisco who for some reason or another wont get a game and we will be left watching Shola and Carroll. Go Team Ashley! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i hadn't planned on going to the monument yesterday but ended up having to meet someone there so got there to hear Steve Hastie's speech and thought it was very good and while i didn't agree with all of it i was agreeing with most of it. I am also a member of NUSC and was disappointed with the ashley-wise out flag, although it was to the back and side and not in full view thankfully. Also ended up standing to an Everton fan, an oldish bloke, probably in his 60's, he stood there claaping and agreeing with the speech and walked away at the end saying to me and my mate that he can't believe that our supporters are sitting back allowing Ashley to destroy a great football club! Anyway for anyone not there yesterday, here is the speech in full..... no doubt it will get torn to shreds by NUSC critics. THIS IS THE SPEECH THAT WAS MADE ON THE DAY Can I start by paying tribute to two people today Firstly Joe Kinnear. We wish Joe well, as he recovers from his heart operation; get well soon and take care Joe, our best wishes to you and your family. Secondly can i pay tribute to someone who, more than anyone else has shown dignity in adversity and a fighters spirit as he battles once again with cancer. Sir Bobby Robson. Happy birthday for earlier in the week Sir Bobby. How privileged we are in the north east to have such a person as sir bobby, raising so much money for his foundation. Thank you. Why did NUSC call this rally together We did so because NUSC believe that we stand here at a crossroads in the history of Newcastle United A time when situations on the pitch are being effected more than ever by the total mis-management of the club at boardroom level Mis-management by people who have no soul in Newcastle United; who are not supporters of Newcastle United and have no handle on what Newcastle United means to the city, its people and all who wear their colours with pride. People who show no respect to the fans As we ponder on past performance and wait excitedly for the next game, full of tension, hope and expectation that it will be the turning point; we want to walk proudly around this city full in the knowledge that our football club is doing us proud We want to go into work on a Monday morning, bouyed by a performance of skill and endeavour and a result to match. We want to sit in pubs and clubs before a match, full of expectation for what we are about to be served But sadly, we havent been experiencing that this last few months. We feel let down by the people running our club; by the performances we have witnessed and the words we have had to listen to. We are not interested in who earns what; Our loyalty is to the black and white shirt We love our club But we are in despair when decisions are being made that seem to jeopardise that position Nobody should think that questioning what is happening at Newcastle United is in any way a sign of disloyalty Disloyalty to whom; certainly not the players who are paid handsomely And alongside whom, we kick every ball and tread on every blade of grass. People who are privaleged to represent Newcastle United to the club; certainly not; never we care we care passionately and we are proud that we care. but we will not stand back and see newcastle United be devalued and defaced by people who do not understand Newcastle United Custodians who see their job as selling the pies and chips; people who employ the odious Dennis Wise to do their dirty work; People with no understanding of the workings of a football club. People who wait for months for the transfer window to open and then spend the last 12 hours of a 34 day window scrambling around trying to do deals that frankly werent even there to be done. People who drove the best goalkeeper in the premiership out of our club by failing to deliver the promises made of taking the club forward; of investing and of building a team worthy of the shirt People who strived to undermine the management structure; to destroy the hopes and dreams of many who saw kevin keegan as the man to put the building blocks back into place at our club and because of whom many thousands of us loyal supporters have paid handsomely in advance to be part of the dream for the next three years We were told 18 months ago we aspire to be arsenal Now were told its Aston Villa Who will it be tomorrow; Wigan, or West Brom ? Mike Ashley bought Newcastle United to, in his words have some fun Well mike, I hope you are enjoying it, because at the moment we certainly arent You thought you were getting a bargain; yet you failed to do your homework and got stiffed by sir john hall, who conveniently failed to mention the mortgage he lumbered you with. If thats true mike; why is Sir John still life president of the club; why have you not banished him from the directors box and left him to watch the games on some dodgy foreign satellite channel Why do your spokespeople and club insiders bleat on about the shepherd and hall era; the debt , the potential financial meltdown yet fail to mention champions league and uefa cup football; the fantastic stadium, the two fa cup finals, and two semi finals the charity shield; the uefa cup semi final ; the world record signings; or the entertainers, asprilla, ferdinand, batty, albert, peacock, pav, shearer, ginola, lee, barton, beresford, clark, watson, sellers, beardsley, cole, solano, - what we had and what we aspire to have again Why; is it because your so called plan wont warrant such talent; wont bring such entertaining football and will be built on sand if it is being managed by the current bunch of clowns running the club. We know Shepherd and Hall fleeced the club of millions during their tenure; we also know that you gave them £136m We know you wanted to sell the club as soon as you bought it; we know your blunder has cost you millions more And it will continue to do so while you sit back and allow it to be mis-managed. So where is your plan mike ? does it exist ? is it still in the draft stage ? or is it an aspiration rather than a fact Is the plan to still sell the club if the opportunity arises; if so tell us and we will help you sell it; Sell it on the back of the 52,000 who used to come through the door; And the 52,000 who will come back through the door if the right buyer comes along and manages the club correctly - a proper custodian with the best interests of the city, its people and its supporters at heart. Dont patronise us; we can sell your club for you; after all its us the fans as much as the club that you are selling. The club is no good without the supporters; we are the people that breath the life into it Dont accuse us of being impatient; weve waited 54 years for domestic success and will wait another 54 as long as we see progress, given the respect we deserve ; are entertained and feel part of it. Mike; we know you cant be all things to all men, but you can talk to the fans; talk directly to us and give us the benefit of your wisdom on Newcastle United. We respect your privacy but by buying the club you have put yourself up for scrutiny and into the public eye as the owner of more than a football club Youve bought into the Geordie dream, youve bought into the passion. You must understand that and see the responsibility that this brings with it. If you dont understand that then get out now. Dialogue mike; explain your plan And while youre on; Explain to us how a casino manager has the experience to go up against well served football executives when negotiating transfers, commercial deals and other football matters Explain how a former player of little real talent and with no ties to the north east can be given the keys to the kingdom when deciding on the playing staff we need, be responsible for transfer dealings yet fail so miserably twice. Explain why you think that the continental management system will work at Newcastle United when its been a failure at all other British clubs who have tried it. Explain why Dennis Wise bought players behind Kevin Keegans back Explain what happened to the £16m that Joe Kinnear said he had to spend in January Explain why we are only buying players for cash but selling them to clubs who pay in instalments Explain why a club you aspire to be like Aston Villa have spend over £80m in the last three years yet we have made a profit in transfer dealings in every transfer window since you arrived. Kevin Keegan is now history; we know that, so why belittle us with a belief that we only aspire to bringing him back and want to talk constantly about him; .... we dont And if you talked to us and listened to us you would know that If we are in this together talk to the fans mike; talk Its not sports direct we want mike ..... Its talk direct Newcastle United is our club. it doesn't matter who pays the bills or whose name hangs over the door. Newcastle United is central to the hearts and minds of the Geordie nation. We are the club and in desperate times and times of need its us, the supporters of Newcastle United, who rise up as one when they need us. And right now they need us. From the first whistle to the last we support the team and we back them 100%. We leave our differences aside and stand as one, a Newcastle United. United in the common goal, to see a successful team on the pitch and leave the day with 3 more points. 3 precious points that edge us closer to safety. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC who will give our all to help the team achieve that, today and every time the whistle goes. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC, who are the biggest asset this club has and we can make a difference when we stand as one to achieve the same goals. Newcastle United will never be defeated! So what can we do about it ? We can be united; thats what; we can stand shoulder to shoulder; we can put pressure on the club by sheer weight of numbers; by getting behind the banner of NUSC as an organisation that speaks for the fans, looks out for the fans and who can question the validity of what the club administration and executives are doing. An organisation who can fight and argue for the return of the 2.5% vat that the club is withholding from those who have paid in advance and who have elected to set up direct debits for the following two seasons. The club is refusing to pass on the vat reduction on the grounds that you decided to join the scheme last June, even though you dont start paying until February 2009. A club who can take forward issues such as standing at the match; at inadequate and aggressive stewarding Together we can make a difference. I urge every member of NUSC to make it their business to go out and find a further 10 members As our membership grows, so will our strength and so will the need for the club to listen to our united voice. This is not a fight about personalities or egos. it is about getting together to restore Newcastle United to its position as the entertainers of English football; about being united in our ideals; being everybody elses second club. In the next 13 games we Newcastle supporters will be doing everything we can to ensure that our premier league status is secured; supporting the team on the pitch We will also be watching every move that the executives of Newcastle United make to ensure that they are not wriggling out of their commitments; Mike Ashley; were watching you. mess this up at your peril. I thank you Howay the lads Superb speech, I can't see why anyone would disagree with it. When we're half way down the championship in a couple of years heading for league one it will be interesting to see which people still post on this forum. Yes we will probably survive this season but the way I see it we've years ahead of us with no ambition, in front of crowds below 40k! But dont worry lads they have promised to spend £8 million in the summer, its laughable For f*** sake please wake up and see whats happening The 8M isprobably on top of whatever budget we would normally have. sadly, thats a hilarious assumption. I wouldn't say so, but we don't know so we'll leave it it that. I'm hguessing though they realise the squad will need improving especially up front when we lose Owen and Viduka. As Ameobi has signed a new contract, I can only assume they don't have high sights. It will cost a lot of money to replace those 2. It would cost alot of money but I mean we could do with at least one, if we can get a decent target man our Attack will be decent enough. 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David Icke - Son of God Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Great speech. Hit the nail on the head. I have no idea how some of our so called fans can give Ashley and co carte blanche to fuck this club up. How low do we have to stoop before people wake up and smell the coffee? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i hadn't planned on going to the monument yesterday but ended up having to meet someone there so got there to hear Steve Hastie's speech and thought it was very good and while i didn't agree with all of it i was agreeing with most of it. I am also a member of NUSC and was disappointed with the ashley-wise out flag, although it was to the back and side and not in full view thankfully. Also ended up standing to an Everton fan, an oldish bloke, probably in his 60's, he stood there claaping and agreeing with the speech and walked away at the end saying to me and my mate that he can't believe that our supporters are sitting back allowing Ashley to destroy a great football club! Anyway for anyone not there yesterday, here is the speech in full..... no doubt it will get torn to shreds by NUSC critics. THIS IS THE SPEECH THAT WAS MADE ON THE DAY Can I start by paying tribute to two people today Firstly Joe Kinnear. We wish Joe well, as he recovers from his heart operation; get well soon and take care Joe, our best wishes to you and your family. Secondly can i pay tribute to someone who, more than anyone else has shown dignity in adversity and a fighters spirit as he battles once again with cancer. Sir Bobby Robson. Happy birthday for earlier in the week Sir Bobby. How privileged we are in the north east to have such a person as sir bobby, raising so much money for his foundation. Thank you. Why did NUSC call this rally together We did so because NUSC believe that we stand here at a crossroads in the history of Newcastle United A time when situations on the pitch are being effected more than ever by the total mis-management of the club at boardroom level Mis-management by people who have no soul in Newcastle United; who are not supporters of Newcastle United and have no handle on what Newcastle United means to the city, its people and all who wear their colours with pride. People who show no respect to the fans As we ponder on past performance and wait excitedly for the next game, full of tension, hope and expectation that it will be the turning point; we want to walk proudly around this city full in the knowledge that our football club is doing us proud We want to go into work on a Monday morning, bouyed by a performance of skill and endeavour and a result to match. We want to sit in pubs and clubs before a match, full of expectation for what we are about to be served But sadly, we haven’t been experiencing that this last few months. We feel let down by the people running our club; by the performances we have witnessed and the words we have had to listen to. We are not interested in who earns what; Our loyalty is to the black and white shirt We love our club But we are in despair when decisions are being made that seem to jeopardise that position Nobody should think that questioning what is happening at Newcastle United is in any way a sign of disloyalty Disloyalty to whom; certainly not the players who are paid handsomely And alongside whom, we kick every ball and tread on every blade of grass. People who are privaleged to represent Newcastle United to the club; certainly not; never we care – we care passionately and we are proud that we care. but we will not stand back and see newcastle United be devalued and defaced by people who do not understand Newcastle United Custodians who see their job as selling the pies and chips; people who employ the odious Dennis Wise to do their dirty work; People with no understanding of the workings of a football club. People who wait for months for the transfer window to open and then spend the last 12 hours of a 34 day window scrambling around trying to do deals that frankly weren’t even there to be done. People who drove the best goalkeeper in the premiership out of our club by failing to deliver the promises made of taking the club forward; of investing and of building a team worthy of the shirt People who strived to undermine the management structure; to destroy the hopes and dreams of many who saw kevin keegan as the man to put the building blocks back into place at our club and because of whom many thousands of us loyal supporters have paid handsomely in advance to be part of the dream for the next three years We were told 18 months ago we aspire to be arsenal Now we’re told its Aston Villa Who will it be tomorrow; Wigan, or West Brom ? Mike Ashley bought Newcastle United to, in his words “have some fun” Well mike, I hope you are enjoying it, because at the moment we certainly aren’t You thought you were getting a bargain; yet you failed to do your homework and got stiffed by sir john hall, who conveniently failed to mention the mortgage he lumbered you with. If that’s true mike; why is Sir John still life president of the club; why have you not banished him from the directors box and left him to watch the games on some dodgy foreign satellite channel Why do your spokespeople and club insiders bleat on about the shepherd and hall era; the debt , the potential financial meltdown yet fail to mention champions league and uefa cup football; the fantastic stadium, the two fa cup finals, and two semi finals the charity shield; the uefa cup semi final ; the world record signings; or the entertainers, asprilla, ferdinand, batty, albert, peacock, pav, shearer, ginola, lee, barton, beresford, clark, watson, sellers, beardsley, cole, solano, - what we had and what we aspire to have again Why; is it because your so called plan won’t warrant such talent; won’t bring such entertaining football and will be built on sand if it is being managed by the current bunch of clowns running the club. We know Shepherd and Hall fleeced the club of millions during their tenure; we also know that you gave them £136m We know you wanted to sell the club as soon as you bought it; we know your blunder has cost you millions more And it will continue to do so while you sit back and allow it to be mis-managed. So where is your plan mike ? does it exist ? is it still in the draft stage ? or is it an aspiration rather than a fact Is the plan to still sell the club if the opportunity arises; if so tell us and we will help you sell it; Sell it on the back of the 52,000 who used to come through the door; And the 52,000 who will come back through the door if the right buyer comes along and manages the club correctly - a proper custodian with the best interests of the city, its people and its supporters at heart. Don’t patronise us; we can sell your club for you; after all its us the fans as much as the club that you are selling. The club is no good without the supporters; we are the people that breath the life into it Don’t accuse us of being impatient; we’ve waited 54 years for domestic success and will wait another 54 as long as we see progress, given the respect we deserve ; are entertained and feel part of it. Mike; we know you can’t be all things to all men, but you can talk to the fans; talk directly to us and give us the benefit of your wisdom on Newcastle United. We respect your privacy but by buying the club you have put yourself up for scrutiny and into the public eye as the owner of more than a football club You’ve bought into the Geordie dream, you’ve bought into the passion. You must understand that and see the responsibility that this brings with it. If you don’t understand that then get out now. Dialogue mike; explain your plan And while you’re on; Explain to us how a casino manager has the experience to go up against well served football executives when negotiating transfers, commercial deals and other football matters Explain how a former player of little real talent and with no ties to the north east can be given the keys to the kingdom when deciding on the playing staff we need, be responsible for transfer dealings yet fail so miserably twice. Explain why you think that the continental management system will work at Newcastle United when it’s been a failure at all other British clubs who have tried it. Explain why Dennis Wise bought players behind Kevin Keegan’s back Explain what happened to the £16m that Joe Kinnear said he had to spend in January Explain why we are only buying players for cash but selling them to clubs who pay in instalments Explain why a club you aspire to be like – Aston Villa – have spend over £80m in the last three years yet we have made a profit in transfer dealings in every transfer window since you arrived. Kevin Keegan is now history; we know that, so why belittle us with a belief that we only aspire to bringing him back and want to talk constantly about him; .... we don’t And if you talked to us and listened to us you would know that If we are in this together talk to the fans mike; talk Its not sports direct we want mike ..... Its talk direct Newcastle United is our club. it doesn't matter who pays the bills or whose name hangs over the door. Newcastle United is central to the hearts and minds of the Geordie nation. We are the club and in desperate times and times of need it’s us, the supporters of Newcastle United, who rise up as one when they need us. And right now they need us. From the first whistle to the last we support the team and we back them 100%. We leave our differences aside and stand as one, a Newcastle United. United in the common goal, to see a successful team on the pitch and leave the day with 3 more points. 3 precious points that edge us closer to safety. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC who will give our all to help the team achieve that, today and every time the whistle goes. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC, who are the biggest asset this club has and we can make a difference when we stand as one to achieve the same goals. Newcastle United will never be defeated! So what can we do about it ? We can be united; that’s what; we can stand shoulder to shoulder; we can put pressure on the club by sheer weight of numbers; by getting behind the banner of NUSC as an organisation that speaks for the fans, looks out for the fans and who can question the validity of what the club administration and executives are doing. An organisation who can fight and argue for the return of the 2.5% vat that the club is withholding from those who have paid in advance and who have elected to set up direct debits for the following two seasons. The club is refusing to pass on the vat reduction on the grounds that you decided to join the scheme last June, even though you don’t start paying until February 2009. A club who can take forward issues such as standing at the match; at inadequate and aggressive stewarding Together we can make a difference. I urge every member of NUSC to make it their business to go out and find a further 10 members As our membership grows, so will our strength and so will the need for the club to listen to our united voice. This is not a fight about personalities or ego’s. it is about getting together to restore Newcastle United to its position as the entertainers of English football; about being united in our ideals; being everybody else’s second club. In the next 13 games we Newcastle supporters will be doing everything we can to ensure that our premier league status is secured; supporting the team on the pitch We will also be watching every move that the executives of Newcastle United make to ensure that they are not wriggling out of their commitments; Mike Ashley; we’re watching you. mess this up at your peril. I thank you Howay the lads Superb speech, I can't see why anyone would disagree with it. When we're half way down the championship in a couple of years heading for league one it will be interesting to see which people still post on this forum. Yes we will probably survive this season but the way I see it we've years ahead of us with no ambition, in front of crowds below 40k! But dont worry lads they have promised to spend £8 million in the summer, its laughable For f*** sake please wake up and see whats happening The 8M isprobably on top of whatever budget we would normally have. sadly, that’s a hilarious assumption. I wouldn't say so, but we don't know so we'll leave it it that. I'm hguessing though they realise the squad will need improving especially up front when we lose Owen and Viduka. As Ameobi has signed a new contract, I can only assume they don't have high sights. It will cost a lot of money to replace those 2. It would cost alot of money but I mean we could do with at least one, if we can get a decent target man our Attack will be decent enough. Martins/Lovenkrands New Striker/Ameobi No it wouldn't. Martins is vastly overrated. We can't rely on his half a dozen storming games a season to keep us out of trouble, especially when he's starting to spend more and more time injured. Lovenkrands is Sibierski redux. Decent for the price we got him at and shows a level of commitment I wish some of our other players had but simply not good enough. Ameobi is Ameobi. Simple as that really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 i hadn't planned on going to the monument yesterday but ended up having to meet someone there so got there to hear Steve Hastie's speech and thought it was very good and while i didn't agree with all of it i was agreeing with most of it. I am also a member of NUSC and was disappointed with the ashley-wise out flag, although it was to the back and side and not in full view thankfully. Also ended up standing to an Everton fan, an oldish bloke, probably in his 60's, he stood there claaping and agreeing with the speech and walked away at the end saying to me and my mate that he can't believe that our supporters are sitting back allowing Ashley to destroy a great football club! Anyway for anyone not there yesterday, here is the speech in full..... no doubt it will get torn to shreds by NUSC critics. THIS IS THE SPEECH THAT WAS MADE ON THE DAY Can I start by paying tribute to two people today Firstly Joe Kinnear. We wish Joe well, as he recovers from his heart operation; get well soon and take care Joe, our best wishes to you and your family. Secondly can i pay tribute to someone who, more than anyone else has shown dignity in adversity and a fighters spirit as he battles once again with cancer. Sir Bobby Robson. Happy birthday for earlier in the week Sir Bobby. How privileged we are in the north east to have such a person as sir bobby, raising so much money for his foundation. Thank you. Why did NUSC call this rally together We did so because NUSC believe that we stand here at a crossroads in the history of Newcastle United A time when situations on the pitch are being effected more than ever by the total mis-management of the club at boardroom level Mis-management by people who have no soul in Newcastle United; who are not supporters of Newcastle United and have no handle on what Newcastle United means to the city, its people and all who wear their colours with pride. People who show no respect to the fans As we ponder on past performance and wait excitedly for the next game, full of tension, hope and expectation that it will be the turning point; we want to walk proudly around this city full in the knowledge that our football club is doing us proud We want to go into work on a Monday morning, bouyed by a performance of skill and endeavour and a result to match. We want to sit in pubs and clubs before a match, full of expectation for what we are about to be served But sadly, we haven’t been experiencing that this last few months. We feel let down by the people running our club; by the performances we have witnessed and the words we have had to listen to. We are not interested in who earns what; Our loyalty is to the black and white shirt We love our club But we are in despair when decisions are being made that seem to jeopardise that position Nobody should think that questioning what is happening at Newcastle United is in any way a sign of disloyalty Disloyalty to whom; certainly not the players who are paid handsomely And alongside whom, we kick every ball and tread on every blade of grass. People who are privaleged to represent Newcastle United to the club; certainly not; never we care – we care passionately and we are proud that we care. but we will not stand back and see newcastle United be devalued and defaced by people who do not understand Newcastle United Custodians who see their job as selling the pies and chips; people who employ the odious Dennis Wise to do their dirty work; People with no understanding of the workings of a football club. People who wait for months for the transfer window to open and then spend the last 12 hours of a 34 day window scrambling around trying to do deals that frankly weren’t even there to be done. People who drove the best goalkeeper in the premiership out of our club by failing to deliver the promises made of taking the club forward; of investing and of building a team worthy of the shirt People who strived to undermine the management structure; to destroy the hopes and dreams of many who saw kevin keegan as the man to put the building blocks back into place at our club and because of whom many thousands of us loyal supporters have paid handsomely in advance to be part of the dream for the next three years We were told 18 months ago we aspire to be arsenal Now we’re told its Aston Villa Who will it be tomorrow; Wigan, or West Brom ? Mike Ashley bought Newcastle United to, in his words “have some fun” Well mike, I hope you are enjoying it, because at the moment we certainly aren’t You thought you were getting a bargain; yet you failed to do your homework and got stiffed by sir john hall, who conveniently failed to mention the mortgage he lumbered you with. If that’s true mike; why is Sir John still life president of the club; why have you not banished him from the directors box and left him to watch the games on some dodgy foreign satellite channel Why do your spokespeople and club insiders bleat on about the shepherd and hall era; the debt , the potential financial meltdown yet fail to mention champions league and uefa cup football; the fantastic stadium, the two fa cup finals, and two semi finals the charity shield; the uefa cup semi final ; the world record signings; or the entertainers, asprilla, ferdinand, batty, albert, peacock, pav, shearer, ginola, lee, barton, beresford, clark, watson, sellers, beardsley, cole, solano, - what we had and what we aspire to have again Why; is it because your so called plan won’t warrant such talent; won’t bring such entertaining football and will be built on sand if it is being managed by the current bunch of clowns running the club. We know Shepherd and Hall fleeced the club of millions during their tenure; we also know that you gave them £136m We know you wanted to sell the club as soon as you bought it; we know your blunder has cost you millions more And it will continue to do so while you sit back and allow it to be mis-managed. So where is your plan mike ? does it exist ? is it still in the draft stage ? or is it an aspiration rather than a fact Is the plan to still sell the club if the opportunity arises; if so tell us and we will help you sell it; Sell it on the back of the 52,000 who used to come through the door; And the 52,000 who will come back through the door if the right buyer comes along and manages the club correctly - a proper custodian with the best interests of the city, its people and its supporters at heart. Don’t patronise us; we can sell your club for you; after all its us the fans as much as the club that you are selling. The club is no good without the supporters; we are the people that breath the life into it Don’t accuse us of being impatient; we’ve waited 54 years for domestic success and will wait another 54 as long as we see progress, given the respect we deserve ; are entertained and feel part of it. Mike; we know you can’t be all things to all men, but you can talk to the fans; talk directly to us and give us the benefit of your wisdom on Newcastle United. We respect your privacy but by buying the club you have put yourself up for scrutiny and into the public eye as the owner of more than a football club You’ve bought into the Geordie dream, you’ve bought into the passion. You must understand that and see the responsibility that this brings with it. If you don’t understand that then get out now. Dialogue mike; explain your plan And while you’re on; Explain to us how a casino manager has the experience to go up against well served football executives when negotiating transfers, commercial deals and other football matters Explain how a former player of little real talent and with no ties to the north east can be given the keys to the kingdom when deciding on the playing staff we need, be responsible for transfer dealings yet fail so miserably twice. Explain why you think that the continental management system will work at Newcastle United when it’s been a failure at all other British clubs who have tried it. Explain why Dennis Wise bought players behind Kevin Keegan’s back Explain what happened to the £16m that Joe Kinnear said he had to spend in January Explain why we are only buying players for cash but selling them to clubs who pay in instalments Explain why a club you aspire to be like – Aston Villa – have spend over £80m in the last three years yet we have made a profit in transfer dealings in every transfer window since you arrived. Kevin Keegan is now history; we know that, so why belittle us with a belief that we only aspire to bringing him back and want to talk constantly about him; .... we don’t And if you talked to us and listened to us you would know that If we are in this together talk to the fans mike; talk Its not sports direct we want mike ..... Its talk direct Newcastle United is our club. it doesn't matter who pays the bills or whose name hangs over the door. Newcastle United is central to the hearts and minds of the Geordie nation. We are the club and in desperate times and times of need it’s us, the supporters of Newcastle United, who rise up as one when they need us. And right now they need us. From the first whistle to the last we support the team and we back them 100%. We leave our differences aside and stand as one, a Newcastle United. United in the common goal, to see a successful team on the pitch and leave the day with 3 more points. 3 precious points that edge us closer to safety. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC who will give our all to help the team achieve that, today and every time the whistle goes. And it is us, the supporters of NUFC, who are the biggest asset this club has and we can make a difference when we stand as one to achieve the same goals. Newcastle United will never be defeated! So what can we do about it ? We can be united; that’s what; we can stand shoulder to shoulder; we can put pressure on the club by sheer weight of numbers; by getting behind the banner of NUSC as an organisation that speaks for the fans, looks out for the fans and who can question the validity of what the club administration and executives are doing. An organisation who can fight and argue for the return of the 2.5% vat that the club is withholding from those who have paid in advance and who have elected to set up direct debits for the following two seasons. The club is refusing to pass on the vat reduction on the grounds that you decided to join the scheme last June, even though you don’t start paying until February 2009. A club who can take forward issues such as standing at the match; at inadequate and aggressive stewarding Together we can make a difference. I urge every member of NUSC to make it their business to go out and find a further 10 members As our membership grows, so will our strength and so will the need for the club to listen to our united voice. This is not a fight about personalities or ego’s. it is about getting together to restore Newcastle United to its position as the entertainers of English football; about being united in our ideals; being everybody else’s second club. In the next 13 games we Newcastle supporters will be doing everything we can to ensure that our premier league status is secured; supporting the team on the pitch We will also be watching every move that the executives of Newcastle United make to ensure that they are not wriggling out of their commitments; Mike Ashley; we’re watching you. mess this up at your peril. I thank you Howay the lads Superb speech, I can't see why anyone would disagree with it. When we're half way down the championship in a couple of years heading for league one it will be interesting to see which people still post on this forum. Yes we will probably survive this season but the way I see it we've years ahead of us with no ambition, in front of crowds below 40k! But dont worry lads they have promised to spend £8 million in the summer, its laughable For f*** sake please wake up and see whats happening The 8M isprobably on top of whatever budget we would normally have. sadly, that’s a hilarious assumption. I wouldn't say so, but we don't know so we'll leave it it that. I'm hguessing though they realise the squad will need improving especially up front when we lose Owen and Viduka. As Ameobi has signed a new contract, I can only assume they don't have high sights. It will cost a lot of money to replace those 2. It would cost alot of money but I mean we could do with at least one, if we can get a decent target man our Attack will be decent enough. Martins/Lovenkrands New Striker/Ameobi They are all not good enough. Martins will score us some goals, but he's the only one among that lot worth the time of day. The longer the club stall on attacking this problem, (and the midfield, and a right sided player in midfield), the closer the championship will get and maybe arrive before the good striker(s). And, however you look at it, it will cost money, money that I don't think they are prepared to spend, making the outcome inevitable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Its ok though as the wonderful DOF set up will see Wise getting to blow more money on another Xisco who for some reason or another wont get a game and we will be left watching Shola and Carroll. Go Team Ashley! Rob McDonald and Bobby Shinton re-incarnated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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