themanupstairs Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. f*** that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. None of the above! I just think he meant he fancies Ashley's pretty face over Shepherd wrinkled mug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. Fuck that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As shit as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. Fuck that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As shit as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. f*** that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As s*** as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. The rate of our downfall under the previous board was alarming, and we were headed down at a great speed. The only positive thing Ashley has done is to soften the drop and we will hope that he will bring that drop to a grinding halt. Just. Then we can start to build again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. Fuck that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As shit as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. Its fine to say that, but has the whole bottom half of the premiership ever been as tight as it is at this point in the season? Put it into context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. Fuck that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As shit as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). rubbish, and you have it the wrong way round. Its results on the field that bring in revenue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. Fuck that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As shit as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). rubbish, and you have it the wrong way round. Its results on the field that bring in revenue. Oh hurray! NE5's here. Another topic well and truly derailed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 stand by for a sports direct.com type sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. Fuck that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As shit as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. I think it IS possible under Ashley, but I think if Freddy was there for a few more years, the financial toll would've really hit hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. f*** that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As s*** as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. Its fine to say that, but has the whole bottom half of the premiership ever been as tight as it is at this point in the season? Put it into context. In an attempt to be as objective as I can be, one could also argue that we are actually lucky that the bottom half's been as tight as it has been (no pun intended). However, this is the reality, and I hope that we look back at this season in 10 years time and think it was a blessing in disguise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. f*** that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As s*** as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. The rate of our downfall under the previous board was alarming, and we were headed down at a great speed. The only positive thing Ashley has done is to soften the drop and we will hope that he will bring that drop to a grinding halt. Just. Then we can start to build again. Though we were in the UEFA cup in Shepherds last season at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. f*** that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As s*** as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. The rate of our downfall under the previous board was alarming, and we were headed down at a great speed. The only positive thing Ashley has done is to soften the drop and we will hope that he will bring that drop to a grinding halt. Just. Then we can start to build again. Though we were in the UEFA cup in Shepherds last season at the club. Another meaningless stat in the context of the actual reality of the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. f*** that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As s*** as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. The rate of our downfall under the previous board was alarming, and we were headed down at a great speed. The only positive thing Ashley has done is to soften the drop and we will hope that he will bring that drop to a grinding halt. Just. Then we can start to build again. Though we were in the UEFA cup in Shepherds last season at the club. Another meaningless stat in the context of the actual reality of the situation. I'll be amazed if Ashley gets us into europe at any point. The thing about Shepherd was, he was a twat for hiring some shite managers. For sacking some good ones. For doing it at the wrong times. For taking millions out of the club in dividends and for spouting some shit in the press and on tape....but even with all that, there were only 2 seasons in 10 that Newcastle didn't get into Europe. He didn't accept mediocrity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. f*** that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As s*** as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. The rate of our downfall under the previous board was alarming, and we were headed down at a great speed. The only positive thing Ashley has done is to soften the drop and we will hope that he will bring that drop to a grinding halt. Just. Then we can start to build again. Though we were in the UEFA cup in Shepherds last season at the club. Another meaningless stat in the context of the actual reality of the situation. I'll be amazed if Ashley gets us into europe at any point. The thing about Shepherd was, he was a twat for hiring some shite managers. For sacking some good ones. For doing it at the wrong times. For taking millions out of the club in dividends and for spouting some shit in the press and on tape....but even with all that, there were only 2 seasons in 10 that Newcastle didn't get into Europe. He didn't accept mediocrity. He was well-meaning and had big ambitions no one has ever argued that. Spending big and fighting relegation is a recipe for disaster, and we were doing that more and more in the last 3-4 years, whatever stats you throw at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. f*** that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As s*** as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. The rate of our downfall under the previous board was alarming, and we were headed down at a great speed. The only positive thing Ashley has done is to soften the drop and we will hope that he will bring that drop to a grinding halt. Just. Then we can start to build again. Though we were in the UEFA cup in Shepherds last season at the club. Another meaningless stat in the context of the actual reality of the situation. I'll be amazed if Ashley gets us into europe at any point. The thing about Shepherd was, he was a twat for hiring some shite managers. For sacking some good ones. For doing it at the wrong times. For taking millions out of the club in dividends and for spouting some shit in the press and on tape....but even with all that, there were only 2 seasons in 10 that Newcastle didn't get into Europe. He didn't accept mediocrity. My god! When you put it like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. f*** that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As s*** as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. The rate of our downfall under the previous board was alarming, and we were headed down at a great speed. The only positive thing Ashley has done is to soften the drop and we will hope that he will bring that drop to a grinding halt. Just. Then we can start to build again. Though we were in the UEFA cup in Shepherds last season at the club. Another meaningless stat in the context of the actual reality of the situation. I'll be amazed if Ashley gets us into europe at any point. The thing about Shepherd was, he was a twat for hiring some shite managers. For sacking some good ones. For doing it at the wrong times. For taking millions out of the club in dividends and for spouting some shit in the press and on tape....but even with all that, there were only 2 seasons in 10 that Newcastle didn't get into Europe. He didn't accept mediocrity. He was well-meaning and had big ambitions no one has ever argued that. Spending big and fighting relegation is a recipe for disaster, and we were doing that more and more in the last 3-4 years, whatever stats you throw at it. As a club we weren't structured from top to bottom for fighting relegation. Now we are. Woo hoo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? Did that actually ever happen?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. f*** that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As s*** as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. The rate of our downfall under the previous board was alarming, and we were headed down at a great speed. The only positive thing Ashley has done is to soften the drop and we will hope that he will bring that drop to a grinding halt. Just. Then we can start to build again. Though we were in the UEFA cup in Shepherds last season at the club. Another meaningless stat in the context of the actual reality of the situation. I'll be amazed if Ashley gets us into europe at any point. The thing about Shepherd was, he was a twat for hiring some shite managers. For sacking some good ones. For doing it at the wrong times. For taking millions out of the club in dividends and for spouting some shit in the press and on tape....but even with all that, there were only 2 seasons in 10 that Newcastle didn't get into Europe. He didn't accept mediocrity. He was well-meaning and had big ambitions no one has ever argued that. Spending big and fighting relegation is a recipe for disaster, and we were doing that more and more in the last 3-4 years, whatever stats you throw at it. As a club we weren't structured from top to bottom for fighting relegation. Now we are. Woo hoo. How are we suddenly now structured from top to bottom to fight relegation? What on earth does that even mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? Did that actually ever happen?? Nah, but neither did due dilligence, Keegan in charge of transfers, clearing the debt or any kind of spending in the transfer windows so I'm going to work the propoganda machine as much as them to make blatant lies perceived wisdom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. f*** that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As s*** as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. The rate of our downfall under the previous board was alarming, and we were headed down at a great speed. The only positive thing Ashley has done is to soften the drop and we will hope that he will bring that drop to a grinding halt. Just. Then we can start to build again. Though we were in the UEFA cup in Shepherds last season at the club. Another meaningless stat in the context of the actual reality of the situation. I'll be amazed if Ashley gets us into europe at any point. The thing about Shepherd was, he was a twat for hiring some shite managers. For sacking some good ones. For doing it at the wrong times. For taking millions out of the club in dividends and for spouting some shit in the press and on tape....but even with all that, there were only 2 seasons in 10 that Newcastle didn't get into Europe. He didn't accept mediocrity. He was well-meaning and had big ambitions no one has ever argued that. Spending big and fighting relegation is a recipe for disaster, and we were doing that more and more in the last 3-4 years, whatever stats you throw at it. As a club we weren't structured from top to bottom for fighting relegation. Now we are. Woo hoo. How are we suddenly now structured from top to bottom to fight relegation? What on earth does that even mean? Taken from the article you can find by clicking the link in my sig.... It seems to me that the MD and owner are telling us the big name clubs they’re setting us up to emulate, but their actions speak far louder than words and in practice the reticence to build any debt and the lack of ambition to sign any proven quality displays far more amply that they are actually setting us up like a newly promoted team. One that hopes to get lucky with a mid-table finish, but more than anything is planning for inevitable relegation, whether it comes one season or next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 How is it thA Remember last year when they were saying the same things? When they invited all the box holders and grovelled to them to renew with the promise of big signings and entertaining football? At least we had Keegan then ffs. When are the mugs on this board going to wake up? I'm trying to find a post in this thread which connects to yours. EDIT - you mean the NUFC board? It was a response to the original post. I mean the people on this forum who still think we need to relax and give Ashley time to fix the problems at the club. So my first point stands then. Absolutley. You'll get no disagreement from me that Ashley and Shepherd are as ugly as each other. f*** that for a box of pennies, I'd nosh down on Ashley's cock WAY before Freddy's. Why is that? Serious question. Is the politics/finances of the club more important to you than what happens on the field. Freddy and John might have fattened the golden goose to feed themselves, but Mike is just letting the Goose waste away. At least we as fans got something from the previous regime. Are you saying you'd prefer bottom half mediocrity, balanced books and an owner who only takes back what he puts in over European football, debts comparable with other clubs and an owner creaming off some of the profits? Cutting off your nose to spite your face if you ask me. ... I just think Ashley probably washes better. The last thing you want is muck under the hood. (Slash... I think Freddy managed us horribly irresponsibly and had we continued on under his control, we would have become Leeds 2 in a matter of years. So while the politics/finance aren't directly more important to me, they will inevitably affect the results on the field. As s*** as we are now, we're not languishing in League One with Leeds and there is little chance of that happening in reality). Our February 17th (today) points total is currently lower than it was at any point under the chairmanship of Freddy Shepherd, so I don't see how you can say he had us closer to Championship football than Ashley does. It's far more realistic now than it has been previously. The rate of our downfall under the previous board was alarming, and we were headed down at a great speed. The only positive thing Ashley has done is to soften the drop and we will hope that he will bring that drop to a grinding halt. Just. Then we can start to build again. Though we were in the UEFA cup in Shepherds last season at the club. Another meaningless stat in the context of the actual reality of the situation. I'll be amazed if Ashley gets us into europe at any point. The thing about Shepherd was, he was a twat for hiring some shite managers. For sacking some good ones. For doing it at the wrong times. For taking millions out of the club in dividends and for spouting some shit in the press and on tape....but even with all that, there were only 2 seasons in 10 that Newcastle didn't get into Europe. He didn't accept mediocrity. He was well-meaning and had big ambitions no one has ever argued that. Spending big and fighting relegation is a recipe for disaster, and we were doing that more and more in the last 3-4 years, whatever stats you throw at it. As a club we weren't structured from top to bottom for fighting relegation. Now we are. Woo hoo. Despite all his big spending, the squad is arguably better now than it was under Shepherd's last couple of years. How did that happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Easier to read now Nicos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Despite all his big spending, the squad is arguably better now than it was under Shepherd's last couple of years. How did that happen? Keegan was in charge for a short spell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Despite all his big spending, the squad is arguably better now than it was under Shepherd's last couple of years. How did that happen? Keegan was in charge for a short spell. I thought Keegan left precisely because he wasn't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris P Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 stand by for a sports direct.com type sale. Your off your tits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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