La Parka Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 If this is true it could be what he will be remembered for, based on its success or failure. I think you all know how I feel about Owen, so personally I see this as a wise move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 If he drops Owen it does indeed prove that he has cojones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 It's the Shearer grey matter working. He may as well test out how we'll do without Owen in this game, which we'll almost certainly lose whatever 11 we put out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 My greatest wish would be that he drops Owen, we draw against Liverpool without him, beat Boro without him and beat Fulham without him. I think he is a waste of a team place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 My greatest wish would be that he drops Owen, we draw against Liverpool without him, beat Boro without him and beat Fulham without him. I think he is a waste of a team place. I think this is a decision based on the team we are playing and Owen will be back against boro. We wouldn't have a prayer of getting any points with a 3 man midfield against Liverpool, we can always switch back to 3 strikers against the teams who might give them a sniff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 The fact that he doesn't touch the ball is no one's fault but his own. For some reason, Martins seems to touch the ball. Viduka touches the ball. Carroll is involved. Hmm, I wonder why Owen's the only one of our strikers who never seems to be involved in the general play. Uh Viduka = tall and strong Carroll = tall and strong Martins = pacey off the ball Owen = runs through the defence requiring accurate passing Now work out which one might struggle in a side that plays long balls & inaccurate passing. Regardless, Martins doesnt touch the ball barely any more than Owen he just holds it for longer when he drops deep. What is particularly alarming is how physically weak Owen is when challenged for the ball shoulder to shoulder. He loses it every single time in this instances. It's why most of the time he passes it before any of the opposition get anywhere near him. It seems his legs are well and truly shot as he just doesn't have the ability to put himself between the ball and the defender and get low with a wide strong base and just hold them off when under pressure. It's all about balance and leverage and not size. We see the likes of Tevez and Defoe do it all the time and as a little guy you just have to be able to do this to some degree. Owen just seems completely gone physically. He doesn't do anything that looks remotely sudden or explosive or powerful. We all know pace goes eventually, but he is no longer able to jostle with anyone or shoot with power or anything ... It's just a sad sight really. Tevez has a big frame, defoe doesnt do it anymore than owen. Owen did exactly what you're claiming hes no longer capable of in the game against portsmouth whilst being "useless" and setting up guthrie for a chance on the edge of the area. He did it once on one occassion when the defender wasn't as tight to him ... fantastic. Please don't even go there about Defoe because that is crazy talk. Tevez has a big frame? Yeah okay. Robbie Keane, Andy Johnson, Agbonlahor etc etc etc they all do not instantly wilt as soon as they come into contact with a shoulder like Owen does. It's pathetis. Seeing your captain go down so feebly cannot be the most inspiring sight can it. You are joking there right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darth Toon Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Bold decision by Shearer if true, and the right one IMO. Simple fact is, if Owen isn't scoring he contributes little, and we can't afford luxury players against the mousers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I agree with Owen being dropped tbh, but seriously, is there any difference to this, and Gullit dropping Shearer for the Sunderland game when he'd went something crazy like 12-15 games without a goal in open play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I agree with Owen being dropped tbh, but seriously, is there any difference to this, and Gullit dropping Shearer for the Sunderland game when he'd went something crazy like 12-15 games without a goal in open play? He hasn't dropped Owen's best mate out of spite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I agree with Owen being dropped tbh, but seriously, is there any difference to this, and Gullit dropping Shearer for the Sunderland game when he'd went something crazy like 12-15 games without a goal in open play? He hasn't dropped Owen's best mate out of spite. Either was Shearer. He was dropped because he'd been shit from the Spurs FA Cup Semi-Final up until that point. Gullit's mistake was not playing Ferguson instead of Maric or Robinson though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I agree with Owen being dropped tbh, but seriously, is there any difference to this, and Gullit dropping Shearer for the Sunderland game when he'd went something crazy like 12-15 games without a goal in open play? He hasn't dropped Owen's best mate out of spite. Either was Shearer. He was dropped because he'd been shit from the Spurs FA Cup Semi-Final up until that point. Gullit's mistake was not playing Ferguson instead of Maric or Robinson though. Shearer had yes. Rob Lee hadn't though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Even with Rob Lee though. You couldn't really argue with a midfield of Speed & Dyer (and Hamann before that) could you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Even with Rob Lee though. You couldn't really argue with a midfield of Speed & Dyer (and Hamann before that) could you? I knew that was coming. You're just being contrary again. So did Gullit need to strip Lee of his squad number and make him play with the bairns? Did he fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Of course I am. Yeah that was out of order. Same with Pistone & Dabizas too. Although again, with Dabizas we'd had 3 new centre-backs bought in the summer plus the emerging Aaron Hughes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Even with Rob Lee though. You couldn't really argue with a midfield of Speed & Dyer (and Hamann before that) could you? I knew that was coming. You're just being contrary again. So did Gullit need to strip Lee of his squad number and make him play with the bairns? Did he f***. Even with Rob Lee though. You couldn't really argue with a midfield of Speed & Dyer (and Hamann before that) could you? I knew that was coming. You're just being contrary again. So did Gullit need to strip Lee of his squad number and make him play with the bairns? Did he f***. that has nowt to do with wether he should have been in the starting 11 though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 he'll never drop his mates that shearer. blah blah blah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 fair play if true, he'll be back in the lineup come the Boro game though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 fair play if true, he'll be back in the lineup come the Boro game though So he should be, we should go 4-3-3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 fair play if true, he'll be back in the lineup come the Boro game though So he should be, we should go 4-3-3 I agree. I'm glad Shearer's dropped him for this game because we can't go there with a 4-3-3. If we get a point, it'll be fucking massive and Shearer will be planning to get that point. But, with regards to the rest of our matches, we have to go for 3 and as useless as he is in any other formation, Owen's shown that in a 4-3-3 with him dropping deep (which he didn't do in the last match for some reason) is a formation in which he is effective in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Time to drop the midget for good. He was invisible once more except for one good header in the first half. Viduka, Martins, Lovenkrands and Carroll now all offer more than him. It's now got to the point where I don't want us to offer him a new, lower contract anymore. We must free ourselves from our so-called star player in order to progress as a team.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Time to drop the midget for good. He was invisible once more except for one good header in the first half. Viduka, Martins, Lovenkrands and Carroll now all offer more than him. It's now got to the point where I don't want us to offer him a new, lower contract anymore. We must free ourselves from our so-called star player in order to progress as a team.. Erm, yeah, basically.. I've came to Owen's defence more than most on here in the past but tbh he's finished at NUFC. We looked much more dangerous with the likes of Loven and Oba on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 f***ing ineffective, gutless w*****. On the way back i've just heard Shearer continuing to lick his arse via the radio. If he wants to pick him I understand it but it's very dissapointing all the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Poor. Finished at the top level for me also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 lol. Still our best finisher & top scorer. You dont lose your ability as a footballer suddenly half way through a season. Has he been largely ineffectual recently, yes. I wanted him off today myself also. Does that mean its all over for him, no. Theres clearly a reason for it & Al can see that as he's said himself. If martins hadnt got a bit of luck for his strike today we'd all be moaning about him still. Instead hes a legend. Its all kneejerk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 No longer our top scorer in the league as of tonight, that would the striker who has played less and isn't 'half the finisher' mate wake up, since Owen scored his last goal, both Carroll and Love have netted 3. It's embarrassing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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