Teasy Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 We've got the wage bill under £30m by my best estimate, and these players, with a couple of loans, freebies and cheap deals to reinforce the squad will win the Championship. Then the owner will have a Premier League club that wont need a new stadium to be built, and will collect the third highest matchday revenue in that league, and with all that has come to pass, the owner would have a completely blank slate with regards to what he can do. Even though we are in a division below, you can do more with us in 10 years than you could ever do with Everton, West Ham, Aston Villa, Blackburn, Wigan, Sunderland, even Man City if you were rich enough. We should be the best value for money purchase ever made in football if someone had money, ambition, and foresight. No way the wage bill is under £30m, more like mid to high 40's. I definitely agree with the rest though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 We've got the wage bill under £30m by my best estimate, and these players, with a couple of loans, freebies and cheap deals to reinforce the squad will win the Championship. Then the owner will have a Premier League club that wont need a new stadium to be built, and will collect the third highest matchday revenue in that league, and with all that has come to pass, the owner would have a completely blank slate with regards to what he can do. Even though we are in a division below, you can do more with us in 10 years than you could ever do with Everton, West Ham, Aston Villa, Blackburn, Wigan, Sunderland, even Man City if you were rich enough. We should be the best value for money purchase ever made in football if someone had money, ambition, and foresight. No way the wage bill is under £30m, more like mid to high 40's. I definitely agree with the rest though. yeah by my rough calculations with duff gone some 23m a year has gone off the wage bill since the end of last year so that would leave it in the 40-50m bracket Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 9 players out and the wage bill has come down by more than 40m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 9 players out and the wage bill has come down by more than 40m? Viduka was being paid in steak bakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 9 players out and the wage bill has come down by more than 40m? Viduka was being paid in steak bakes. If only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 9 players out and the wage bill has come down by more than 40m? Viduka was being paid in steak bakes. If only. How's it going you old dog? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 9 players out and the wage bill has come down by more than 40m? Viduka was being paid in steak bakes. If only. How's it going you old dog? Not bad sunshine, delighted about the way we played today. Back to work on monday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 9 players out and the wage bill has come down by more than 40m? Viduka was being paid in steak bakes. If only. How's it going you old dog? Not bad sunshine, delighted about the way we played today. Back to work on monday Makes 2 of us. You around and about before Xmas by any chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 9 players out and the wage bill has come down by more than 40m? Viduka was being paid in steak bakes. If only. How's it going you old dog? Not bad sunshine, delighted about the way we played today. Back to work on monday Makes 2 of us. You around and about before Xmas by any chance? QPR and Bristol City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 9 players out and the wage bill has come down by more than 40m? Viduka was being paid in steak bakes. If only. How's it going you old dog? Not bad sunshine, delighted about the way we played today. Back to work on monday Makes 2 of us. You around and about before Xmas by any chance? QPR and Bristol City. Excellent. QPR sounds good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Shut it. You're completely ruining this thread with your yibbayabba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Shut it. You're completely ruining this thread with your yibbayabba Fuck off! Haven't seen the old twat for months so I'm just making sure he's ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovineblue Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Shut it. You're completely ruining this thread with your yibbayabba First bits of gossip which might actually be true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 New mystery Toon bidder Aug 16 2009 by Neil Farrington, Sunday Sun A MYSTERY new bidder is pondering an 11th-hour approach for Newcastle United this week. Magpies owner Mike Ashley had been tipped to take the club off the market if local tycoon Barry Moat failed to raise the finance for a deal. But now another would-be buyer - thought to have no connection with Moat or other previously mentioned contenders - is set to show their hand. It is unclear whether the latest interested party is willing to go close to matching Ashley's official asking price of £100 million. And Moat's presence next to Ashley in the directors' box during last night's opening home game of the season was widely interpreted as proof that he is the most viable bidder. Other sources suggest Ashley may yet decide to maintain control of Newcastle but ask Moat to join the board with a view to appointing Alan Shearer as manager. Even with Moat for company, Ashley was given a fresh reminder of the strength of feeling against him on Tyneside by the fans who booed his return to St James's Park yesterday. Those supporters would be encouraged by new interest in relieving him of control. And it may also reinforce Shearer's hopes of finally returning to the Newcastle dug-out amid fears that Ashley will appoint a different manager if he decides not to sell up. Meanwhile, Liverpool, Aston Villa and Fulham may challenge Everton in a mass race for Steven Taylor, with the Cottagers already poised to sign Magpies winger Damien Duff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 We've got the wage bill under £30m by my best estimate, and these players, with a couple of loans, freebies and cheap deals to reinforce the squad will win the Championship. Then the owner will have a Premier League club that wont need a new stadium to be built, and will collect the third highest matchday revenue in that league, and with all that has come to pass, the owner would have a completely blank slate with regards to what he can do. Even though we are in a division below, you can do more with us in 10 years than you could ever do with Everton, West Ham, Aston Villa, Blackburn, Wigan, Sunderland, even Man City if you were rich enough. We should be the best value for money purchase ever made in football if someone had money, ambition, and foresight. No way the wage bill is under £30m, more like mid to high 40's. I definitely agree with the rest though. yeah by my rough calculations with duff gone some 23m a year has gone off the wage bill since the end of last year so that would leave it in the 40-50m bracket I dunno, I couldn't remember figures for what it was before, so tried counting upwards, as as far as I'm aware, the likes of Rozehnal were on the last wage bill estimate and we know that more have gone out than in since then: Harper £40,000 Colo £50,000 Enrique £40,000 Nolan £40,000 Barton £50,000 Guthrie £20,000 Simpson £10,000 Taylor £30,000 Smith £50,000 Jonas £40,000 Xisco £40,000 Geremi £50,000 Butt £50,000 Shola £35,000 Carroll £15,000 Taylor £25,000 = £495,000 a week x52 = £25,740,000 Obviously plus youngsters and staff, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Have a feeling somethings goin to happen this week. Moat next to Ashley, Campbell at the game, just think we could be going down to Palace with a new owner, shearer in charge and CB. Probably end up with Ashley, JFK and no Taylor like sigh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoreboard82 Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 I think the seating arrangements at yesterdays game might suggest they are not a million miles away from agreeing some sort of deal, even if it's only Moat being a co-owner. At least he'd have a more positive influence in their decision making, not that it could be any more negative of course. Something's gonna be sorted this week, i can feel it in my water. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 This idea of co-ownership seems to be gathering pace and as far as I can see it's based purely on the fact that a couple of people on this thread suggested it. Even the local media have picked it up from here I reckon. Ashley wants out, Moat wants in. Can't particularly see why anything has changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 This idea of co-ownership seems to be gathering pace and as far as I can see it's based purely on the fact that a couple of people on this thread suggested it. Even the local media have picked it up from here I reckon. Ashley wants out, Moat wants in. Can't particularly see why anything has changed. I think what's changed is Ashleys expectations in regard to the sale amount. There's obviously not been an offer to meet his ideal sale figure otherwise he'd have been off by now. That coupled with the wage bill being reduced, the start to the season from a relaively 'cheap' squad, the lack of any form of protest from the fans and the fact Moat wants in, possibly can't fund a whole takeover and is someone he can work with (they seem quite matey) makes me summise he may be here for a while yet. All guesswork as you intimate but thought I should explain my rationale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 We've got the wage bill under £30m by my best estimate, and these players, with a couple of loans, freebies and cheap deals to reinforce the squad will win the Championship. Then the owner will have a Premier League club that wont need a new stadium to be built, and will collect the third highest matchday revenue in that league, and with all that has come to pass, the owner would have a completely blank slate with regards to what he can do. Even though we are in a division below, you can do more with us in 10 years than you could ever do with Everton, West Ham, Aston Villa, Blackburn, Wigan, Sunderland, even Man City if you were rich enough. We should be the best value for money purchase ever made in football if someone had money, ambition, and foresight. No way the wage bill is under £30m, more like mid to high 40's. I definitely agree with the rest though. yeah by my rough calculations with duff gone some 23m a year has gone off the wage bill since the end of last year so that would leave it in the 40-50m bracket I dunno, I couldn't remember figures for what it was before, so tried counting upwards, as as far as I'm aware, the likes of Rozehnal were on the last wage bill estimate and we know that more have gone out than in since then: I've tried doing that before mate (looking at the first team players basic wages to get the wage bill) and it never works. Like you said it misses quite a few lower paid players and hundreds of other staff. It also misses out bonuses and to be honest those estimates are also quite conservative IMO. The wage bill was £70m from the last accounts, we then sold a few and brought a few in. Even if we assume it stayed at £70m (and most sources claim it actually rose slightly to £72m), that would still put it at roughly £45m now when we remove the players who have gone so far this transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 This idea of co-ownership seems to be gathering pace and as far as I can see it's based purely on the fact that a couple of people on this thread suggested it. Even the local media have picked it up from here I reckon. Ashley wants out, Moat wants in. Can't particularly see why anything has changed. it just seems a logical compromise ashley wants out desperatly so he doesnt lose more money but cant find a buyer to meet his price moat wants in to help his club but may not have the money to buy it outright, both parties in the spirit of compromise go for next best thing where moat purchases a hefty chunk of the shares of the club, ashley gets his wish that the cost to his pocket is reduced and can take a backseat role moat can go on with day to day stuff appoint shearer and free up some transfer funds so he can buy players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 The only reason I floated the idea of there being a Moat/Ashley partnership is down to the fact that I know Ashley is a good businessman and he won't want to take such a huge hit to his bank account but also not lose what could potentially be a good investment. If he took a 50% cut and went out of the public eye to let Moat run the club it could ease the tensions between himself and the fans (he's not an idiot and knows we don't approve of him any longer) while still being able to make some cash off the whole thing. He's already asked for help from other individuals for investment in the squad/club and it just wouldn't surprise me at all if he were to do something along these lines - still take his wedge but not have to deal with anything NUFC-related publicly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 We've got the wage bill under £30m by my best estimate, and these players, with a couple of loans, freebies and cheap deals to reinforce the squad will win the Championship. Then the owner will have a Premier League club that wont need a new stadium to be built, and will collect the third highest matchday revenue in that league, and with all that has come to pass, the owner would have a completely blank slate with regards to what he can do. Even though we are in a division below, you can do more with us in 10 years than you could ever do with Everton, West Ham, Aston Villa, Blackburn, Wigan, Sunderland, even Man City if you were rich enough. We should be the best value for money purchase ever made in football if someone had money, ambition, and foresight. No way the wage bill is under £30m, more like mid to high 40's. I definitely agree with the rest though. yeah by my rough calculations with duff gone some 23m a year has gone off the wage bill since the end of last year so that would leave it in the 40-50m bracket I dunno, I couldn't remember figures for what it was before, so tried counting upwards, as as far as I'm aware, the likes of Rozehnal were on the last wage bill estimate and we know that more have gone out than in since then: Harper £40,000 Colo £50,000 Enrique £40,000 Nolan £40,000 Barton £50,000 Guthrie £20,000 Simpson £10,000 Taylor £30,000 Smith £50,000 Jonas £40,000 Xisco £40,000 Geremi £50,000 Butt £50,000 Shola £35,000 Carroll £15,000 Taylor £25,000 = £495,000 a week x52 = £25,740,000 Obviously plus youngsters and staff, YOU DON'T HAVE A FUCKING CLUE WHAT THE PLAYERS ARE EARNING. It's laugable people making these suggestions. Do you even know what percentage, if any, of Danny Simpson's wages are paying? No you don't. Absolute bullshit post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 This idea of co-ownership seems to be gathering pace and as far as I can see it's based purely on the fact that a couple of people on this thread suggested it. Even the local media have picked it up from here I reckon. Ashley wants out, Moat wants in. Can't particularly see why anything has changed. I think what's changed is Ashleys expectations in regard to the sale amount. There's obviously not been an offer to meet his ideal sale figure otherwise he'd have been off by now. That coupled with the wage bill being reduced, the start to the season from a relaively 'cheap' squad, the lack of any form of protest from the fans and the fact Moat wants in, possibly can't fund a whole takeover and is someone he can work with (they seem quite matey) makes me summise he may be here for a while yet. All guesswork as you intimate but thought I should explain my rationale. I'm not saying it's not a possibility mate, just that it's by no means a certainty. I still hope (and believe) that Ashley wants to cut all ties with the club and fucks off ASAP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 YOU DON'T HAVE A FUCKING CLUE WHAT THE PLAYERS ARE EARNING. It's laugable people making these suggestions. Do you even know what percentage, if any, of Danny Simpson's wages are paying? No you don't. Absolute bullshit post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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