Guest Roger Kint Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Milner played because Hodgson knows Johnson can't defend IMO. Rather he picked Jones or even that Kelly kid than waste a shirt on Milner to cover a s*** player at RB Picking Richards would have been the easiest fucking solution Aye. No way he could have been as poor as Johnson was 95% of the time there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Think that's slightly harsh on Parker TBH. I don't love him as a player but the problem was that every time we won the ball back we gave it away within seconds. The whole team was at fault for that. He's a massive part of the reason we consistently give it away. He's terrible on the ball and far too limited a passer. Not the only one but he plays the most crucial role on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 The funny thing is that we're actually capable of picking players who can keep possession. A midfield of Wilshere and Carrick is a completely different style to Gerrard and Parker. I'm not sure we should entirely move to a Italian/Spanish style passing game, but it's just not feasible to play with such physical energy for the whole of an international tournament. You have to look after the ball. Strangely we looked OK at the start of the game, I think Parker and Gerrard both being knackered also played a big part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Think that's slightly harsh on Parker TBH. I don't love him as a player but the problem was that every time we won the ball back we gave it away within seconds. The whole team was at fault for that. He's a massive part of the reason we consistently give it away. He's terrible on the ball and far too limited a passer. Not the only one but he plays the most crucial role on the pitch. In the other games I don't think he's wasted possession that much at all. Certainly less than Johnson and Young, for example. We do need a midfield metronome though, I agree with that. I would have definitely had Carrick in my squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocho Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'm not sure we should entirely move to a Italian/Spanish style passing game, but it's just not feasible to play with such physical energy for the whole of an international tournament. You have to look after the ball. Yep, England don't need to change their game to a Spanish style - but being able to string a couple of passes between themselves is fundamental. Countless times that the ball was launched in the hope that one of the forwards could hold onto it. Supposedly the best pass sequence for England was Hart to Carroll and he was only on for about 30 mins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'm not sure we should entirely move to a Italian/Spanish style passing game, but it's just not feasible to play with such physical energy for the whole of an international tournament. You have to look after the ball. Yep, England don't need to change their game to a Spanish style - but being able to string a couple of passes between themselves is fundamental. Countless times that the ball was launched in the hope that one of the forwards could hold onto it. Supposedly the best pass sequence for England was Hart to Carroll and he was only on for about 30 mins. It was aye. Joe Hart had our highest completed passes too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Johnson was probably our best attacker on the flanks last night btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Can anybody really say that Milner and Parker have looked any better than they did for us in 06/07? They're exactly the same players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Can anybody really say that Milner and Parker have looked any better than they did for us in 06/07? They're exactly the same players. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Carroll is one of the few players who seemed to have confidence in his own ability. He knows he's got at what he does (target man stuff, holding the ball) and did his job really well. Fuck knows what Rooney's problem is. Unbelievably shit in the past two tournaments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Carroll is one of the few players who seemed to have confidence in his own ability. He knows he's got at what he does (target man stuff, holding the ball) and did his job really well. Fuck knows what Rooney's problem is. Unbelievably shit in the past two tournaments. It's those Nike adverts. Guaranteed to be shite after that kind of fate-tempting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Early indications - peak audience of 23m for England v Italy. 77.4% of the TV viewing population at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Carroll is one of the few players who seemed to have confidence in his own ability. He knows he's got at what he does (target man stuff, holding the ball) and did his job really well. Fuck knows what Rooney's problem is. Unbelievably shit in the past two tournaments. It's those Nike adverts. Guaranteed to be shite after that kind of fate-tempting. It's weird. I mean, his touch is absolutely awful. Passing: awful. If you went purely by his performances in the World Cup and the Euros, you would imagine him to be some clogger from the bottom of the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Carroll completed more passes last night than Gerrard by the way. He came on in the 60th minute. Fuck. Me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Rooney can't take the game to decent opposition on his own and drive a team on the way other top players can. After all the hype of bringing him in the squad he should be embarrassed with how he played. When he had the ball it was more expected that he'd fuck things up than do something exciting/productive. Not an attitude people generally have with world class players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Milner played because Hodgson knows Johnson can't defend IMO. Bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Milner played because Hodgson knows Johnson can't defend IMO. Bullshit. I thought that was pretty much the accepted opinion as well TBH. Would be interested to hear a multi-word argument from you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Fair play to Carroll BTW, looked a player in this tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Actually Milner played for his crossing ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Milner played because Hodgson knows Johnson can't defend IMO. Bullshit. I thought that was pretty much the accepted opinion as well TBH. Would be interested to hear a multi-word argument from you like. The shit of the bull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Actually Milner played for his crossing ability. Does he have any? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Why is Johnson getting flack? Milner was terrible. Parker's never been an international player. Young terrible. Rooney terrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Fair play to Carroll BTW, looked a player in this tournament. Aye. Will be interesting to see what Rodgers does with him this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Probably going to be pilloried for this, but I actually thought Milner played reasonably well yesterday. Would have taken Young off (regardless of penalty miss) way before Milner. Not quite sure why no-one seemed to pick up on how dreadful Terry was. Embarrassing to watch him at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Fair play to Carroll BTW, looked a player in this tournament. Should have started last night instead of Welbeck who has looked horribly out of his depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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