Deuce Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Hart Smalling Caulker Clyne Shaw Wilshere Cleverley Lallana Sterling Ox Rooney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 That first team Deuce posted is probably there or thereabouts. CB is an issue, and I'd probably have Oxlade-Chamberlain instead of Walcott because (a) I really like him (b) he's got a bit more power and presence if you need to defend. Ashley Young has blown hot and cold too. We have a fair few players who are about the same level who could comfortably slot in. Walcott, Caulker, Cleverly, Walker - you wouldn't be too unhappy at giving them a game too. The problem is that you need at least four or five classy players to convince at this level, plus you need a coherent unit around them. We rarely have the same team together, and don't seem to have a consistent way of playing either. We really should have the players to keep the ball, yet they are so often injured (Wilshere, Cleverly) or fighting a losing battle because the team hasn't knitted together. Unfortunately I only got to watch the San Marino game this week, and you can't take much away from that. I'd be very interested to see how much our team differs game-to-game compared with other international sides. Not pre-empting that at all, but if we actually play the same players regularly (compared to, say, the Netherlands) then there is no excuse for Hodgson. If we make more changes than most, then that might be a major issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I'd have put youngsters in. Id have picked Rooney purely as a centre forward, and I would probably have made him captain. Don't want him dropping deep . Id have the likes of Caulker, Sterling, Ox, Clyne and Shaw all starting now. Let's build for 2018. We will do f*** all in 2014 even if we qualify. I broadly agree, but Sterling has been really poor for a while. Maybe too young, and just needs a break. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I'd like to see Lallana given an opportunity. As Lampard/Gerrard are phased out, England won't have many attacking midfielders. Unless you want to play Rooney in that role, which I'm not sure is ideal. Lallana has been quality for Southampton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Smalling shouldn't make the squad as long as he's behind Ferdinand/Vidic/Evans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Sterling and Ox have done very little to be starting for England IMO. It's obviously a difficult balance like, but I don't think you can treat the current England team as just a youth side for 2018. If these players do amazing at their clubs they will come in when they're ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Sterling had done fuck all, Clyne is very weak defensively and Shaw is about as raw as you can get. All 3 should be nowhere near the England team right now, all 3 need to first of all establish themselves as premiership players. Caulker is ready, Ox is dangerous, they should be starting. I'd have Rooney upfront with Walcott, Ox on the right, Wilshere in the middle with a senior player Carrick/Gerrard, the rest whatever is available. Glen Johnson is easily the best RB available, Cole is still the best LB, Hart is the best GK, with the absolute lack of talent on the left I'd probably put Baines there for tough games and try Cleverly there for easier ties. Just leaves the best fit partner for Caulker, probably Terry but England have fucked that up. Hart Johnson Caulker Terry Cole Carrick Wilshere Ox. Baines Walcott Rooney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Deuce is having a laugh surely? Shaw at LB? Ridiculous. Sterling & Ox aren't regulars. As soon as English players have to be regulars at club level things will change. Caulker and the like are truly rotated so that's okay. But atm Smalling is back-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Interesting question - would we rather have 'top 4' bit-part players or those who are starting regularly for bottom clubs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Interesting question - would we rather have 'top 4' bit-part players or those who are starting regularly for bottom clubs? Neither. The Big 4 doesn't exist anymore. Rightfully, only key Arsenal and Liverpool players start. Milner lacks quality but he's a real option for City. Lescott is on the fringes and shouldn't play for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Hodgson is crap too. Honestly, rather have 'Arry. Hodgson waited and waited to make a sub. Reminded me of Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Hodgson is crap too. Honestly, rather have 'Arry. Hodgson waited and waited to make a sub. Reminded me of Pardew. Absolutely, Harry is a much better manager, putting his personality aside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Deuce is having a laugh surely? Shaw at LB? Ridiculous. Read the post above mine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Sterling, maybe in a few years. The danger with him is "doing a Walcott" where you rush everything. He needs a huge amount of work on his game, he's incredibly raw and shouldn't be in the squad. That said, I'm a fan of Walcott and he should definitely be there or thereabouts in the team. If nothing else, he's one of the fastest players I've seen which is always going to create chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I could never watch a team regularly that had Redknapp as a manager. Absolutely detest the bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I could never watch a team regularly that had Redknapp as a manager. Absolutely detest the bloke. I think his style is ideally suited to the England job. Really missed a trick by going with safe Woy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Sterling, maybe in a few years. The danger with him is "doing a Walcott" where you rush everything. He needs a huge amount of work on his game, he's incredibly raw and shouldn't be in the squad. That said, I'm a fan of Walcott and he should definitely be there or thereabouts in the team. If nothing else, he's one of the fastest players I've seen which is always going to create chances. I'm selecting the likes of Shaw and Clyne in an attempt for us to be rebuilding now. Should have been started post 2010, and we may have built a side ready for 2016. We are 2 years behind now. I agree Walcott should be a focal point now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I don't know why people still think Oxlade is ready he clearly isn't. Mentally, physically etc etc he still has a long way to go and the best bit of all right now he has 0 end product. There is a reason he doesn't start for his club, he is just simply not ready for this level yet. If Walcott was performing the way Oxlade is you wouldn't hear the end of it of how crap he is and if Oxlade had performed like Walcott has this season he will be gods gift to football. Dem juicy double standards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Oxlade moved to arsenal too soon, he's not getting regular enough football to develop and is too wanted to be let out on loan. Doubt he'll make much in his career because of it, being harsh maybe but don't think he looks like forcing his way into the arsenal squad soon, he should leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Oxlade moved to arsenal too soon, he's not getting regular enough football to develop and is too wanted to be let out on loan. Doubt he'll make much in his career because of it, being harsh maybe but don't think he looks like forcing his way into the arsenal squad soon, he should leave. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 34 appearances in the league (52 in total) for arsenal as a teenager suggests to me he made the right move, which has led to 10 England caps already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Tom Cleverly, England regular. Boy, we are regressing. He's a crock of shit and Carrick wasn't much better either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 With the Ox, I think Wenger is wary of the Wilshere situation, where he was over-played at a young age and ended up out for a year with injury. His inexperience shows at times, but his all-round ability is outstanding. He should become one of the best players in the world, and to have him and Wilshere together in England teams for the next 10 years is something to look forward to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Tom Cleverly, England regular. Boy, we are regressing. He's a crock of shit and Carrick wasn't much better either. Both were and are miles better than Gerrard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Roy needs to figure out a system to get the best out of whatever Talent pool is out there first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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