Yorkie Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Really entertaining, that. Usually hate the internationals around the start of the new season but if theyre like that I've got no complaints. Cracking prologue and I, pretty much, considered myself a neutral there. Ecstatic for Lambert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 First player to score in all 4 divisions and the national side? Steve Bull must've done. Not 100% though. Nowt on Rob Earnshaw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Earnshaw#Hat-trick_record Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 First player to score in all 4 divisions and the national side? Steve Bull must've done. Not 100% though. Don't think Bully even played in the top flight did he ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 First player to score in all 4 divisions and the national side? Steve Bull must've done. Not 100% though. Don't think Bully even played in the top flight did he ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Do wish Lambert had reached this stage earlier in his career, was absolute quality parts of last season. Type of striker England have needed since Shearer really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Do wish Lambert had reached this stage earlier in his career, was absolute quality parts of last season. Type of striker England have needed since Shearer really. Careful saying that on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Do wish Lambert had reached this stage earlier in his career, was absolute quality parts of last season. Type of striker England have needed since Shearer really. Even though he scored he wouldn't have been the answer if this was still his level. England have needed a proper number 9 for a long time though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Carroll would start for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 England have a #9 and his name is Daniel Sturridge, the quicker he starts games the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Brilliant game, thought we were excellent, need to work on the defence though. Wellbeck is class I have to say, his movement is great and obviously Wislhere is the stand out talent. Fucking great having Strachan in charge, what a difference it makes. We'll have yous next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Is this that painfully old looking kid we were all laughing at the other day? Nope that was TaylorJ_01 fuck you, buddy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Brilliant game, thought we were excellent, need to work on the defence though. Wellbeck is class I have to say, his movement is great and obviously Wislhere is the stand out talent. Fucking great having Strachan in charge, what a difference it makes. We'll have yous next time. You won't get a chance like today again for a long time. Unlucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manosdepiedra Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 First player to score in all 4 divisions and the national side? Des Walker Des Walker scored one league goal in his entire career. Peter Beardsley however is your man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Brilliant game, thought we were excellent, need to work on the defence though. Wellbeck is class I have to say, his movement is great and obviously Wislhere is the stand out talent. Fucking great having Strachan in charge, what a difference it makes. We'll have yous next time. You won't get a chance like today again for a long time. Unlucky. Aye England are definitely on the incline, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 People still dislike Danny Welbeck? He's not a finisher at all. But he's good in the air, can hold it up, great link play, rarely wastes a pass and fro England is a 1 in 3 man. Good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I really like Welbeck, quality player. Hopefully he won't lose too much energy as he gets older. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I seem to have seen Welbeck more than most non-NUFC players and can never make my mind up on him. I mean, he's good at some stuff which sometimes makes him look really good. Then, I dunno. Other times he looks about as 'meh' as it gets. You can attach this description to a lot of those who played last night. Cleverley's another one I can't quite make my mind up on. Tbh, I think England have actually got a collection of good/very good players, with only Rooney who I would describe as 'world class'. They should be better than they are. They should never have been 'massive underdogs' against Italy, for eg (dunno if anyone said that but they pretty much were). There's a lot of talent in the squad. Haven't really got a clue why they're not a really decent international outfit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I like the fact we have a lot of younger and more energetic players now. Potentially we could do quite well over the next few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I like the fact we have a lot of younger and more energetic players now. Potentially we could do quite well over the next few years. At least in the likes of Walcott, Sturridge, Zaha, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Welbeck, etc, we've actually got some pace coming through. Germany absolutely embarrassed us in 2010 and the disparity in pace between the two squads was one of the main reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Welbeck simply needs to get out of Manu and stop beîng a sub or backup player. His game would improve dramatically playing every game elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I seem to have seen Welbeck more than most non-NUFC players and can never make my mind up on him. I mean, he's good at some stuff which sometimes makes him look really good. Then, I dunno. Other times he looks about as 'meh' as it gets. You can attach this description to a lot of those who played last night. Cleverley's another one I can't quite make my mind up on. Tbh, I think England have actually got a collection of good/very good players, with only Rooney who I would describe as 'world class'. They should be better than they are. They should never have been 'massive underdogs' against Italy, for eg (dunno if anyone said that but they pretty much were). There's a lot of talent in the squad. Haven't really got a clue why they're not a really decent international outfit. Welbeck is a promising lad. He needs more goals, but he has a lot of good points. His movement and linkup play is coming on well. I thought Welbeck was very bright last night. Honestly think some of the young lads that Yorkie mentioned have big futures if nurtured correctly. Loved AOC's cameo too, he has such vision for one so young. I reckon Wilshere and AOC pulling the strings for Welbeck , Walcott etc could see us have an exciting time in the years ahead. Really quite positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Welbeck simply needs to get out of Manu and stop beîng a sub or backup player. His game would improve dramatically playing every game elsewhere. This. He's never ever going to be good enough to start for Man Utd. I'd love him here at the Toon personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Welbeck simply needs to get out of Manu and stop beîng a sub or backup player. His game would improve dramatically playing every game elsewhere. This. He's never ever going to be good enough to start for Man Utd. I'd love him here at the Toon personally. If newcastle want to pay over the odds on a striker I'd be happy it was him. Think he's bursting to improve through regular football, and even if he didn't being English we'd get our money back no bother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 Welbeck simply needs to get out of Manu and stop beîng a sub or backup player. His game would improve dramatically playing every game elsewhere. Think I've got to agree with this. You could argue that he's at the best possible club for nurturing talent and developing a winning mentality but I doubt he's ever going to usurp the likes of Van Persie. Obviously he needs to be playing every week but, above all, he needs a defined position. This seems to be a running theme and a serious problem among young English players. Welbeck, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Rodwell - even players who have developed past 22/23 like Milner or even Rooney - they haven't held down a specific position at their club team and I think it is damaging to England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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