AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I agree, slightly more tricky for young players though. If you've lived in England from the age of 10 until 20 then I can see that you might consider yourself English even if you don't have any of the right family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Apart from Wilshire's ''Back to Square one'' bravado about footballing style he's pretty much right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Diego Costa is a brazilian who has been plying his trade in Spain for the last 6 or 7 years (i think it's that long), last two or three years when he moved from getafe to atletico Madrid have seen a huge leap in performance. Spain are quite nonchalant about him being Brazilian and playing for Sapin, if he's good enough and can qualify then get him in the team... N.B. Spanish culture embraces "picardia" (being crafty/sly), which can be seen quite clearly in their interpretation of "fair play" (watch how theatrical fouls are) and current Government representatives etc...etc..etc.. Play for Brazil then. Too many loopholes to pick and choose which international country you want to play for imo. He already has done. He's been capped twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 "We are English. We tackle hard, are tough on the pitch and are hard to beat. "We have great characters. You think of Spain and you think technical but you think of England and you think they are brave and they tackle hard. We have to remember that." Oh dear. I was really depressed when I read that... and this is Wilshere. One of our more technical and talented players. Yup. Clearly his brain is used to move his legs. I would have thought that a modern day player brought up in a supposedly different mind-set wouldn't be coming out with an attitude that died out in the early nineties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Jack Wilshire - the son Alan Pardew never had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Diego Costa is a brazilian who has been plying his trade in Spain for the last 6 or 7 years (i think it's that long), last two or three years when he moved from getafe to atletico Madrid have seen a huge leap in performance. Spain are quite nonchalant about him being Brazilian and playing for Sapin, if he's good enough and can qualify then get him in the team... N.B. Spanish culture embraces "picardia" (being crafty/sly), which can be seen quite clearly in their interpretation of "fair play" (watch how theatrical fouls are) and current Government representatives etc...etc..etc.. Play for Brazil then. Too many loopholes to pick and choose which international country you want to play for imo. He already has done. He's been capped twice. I thought if you had a senior cap you couldn't play for anyone else? That's why Sterling made a pointless appearance last season to keep Jamaica away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Remember when the press began to tout Almunia for an England cap? Arteta aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Di Stefano played for Argentina, Columbia AND Spain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 That Wilshere quote is shocking tbh. I don't think England will ever be relevant in world football again. That mindset seems to be ingrained even in your more technical players. The game has moved on and left England very far behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Diego Costa is a brazilian who has been plying his trade in Spain for the last 6 or 7 years (i think it's that long), last two or three years when he moved from getafe to atletico Madrid have seen a huge leap in performance. Spain are quite nonchalant about him being Brazilian and playing for Sapin, if he's good enough and can qualify then get him in the team... N.B. Spanish culture embraces "picardia" (being crafty/sly), which can be seen quite clearly in their interpretation of "fair play" (watch how theatrical fouls are) and current Government representatives etc...etc..etc.. Play for Brazil then. Too many loopholes to pick and choose which international country you want to play for imo. He already has done. He's been capped twice. I thought if you had a senior cap you couldn't play for anyone else? That's why Sterling made a pointless appearance last season to keep Jamaica away No idea, they were both friendlies in 2013 which makes it worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 This Januzaj thing is extremely cringe worthy and desperate. All based on that one performance the other day? I read an article in the paper the other day where the journalist was comparing him to Messi. It was astonishing. The press, fergie and Man Utd fans wanked over Macheda when he burst on the scene, think i'll reserve judgement just for now. Farce that we are trying to poach him in the first place, it's gone bonkers this whole system of living in the country for a few years so you can now play for them. I actually like Januzaj a lot. Looks a good player, but this reaction from all and sundry has been ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Diego Costa is a brazilian who has been plying his trade in Spain for the last 6 or 7 years (i think it's that long), last two or three years when he moved from getafe to atletico Madrid have seen a huge leap in performance. Spain are quite nonchalant about him being Brazilian and playing for Sapin, if he's good enough and can qualify then get him in the team... N.B. Spanish culture embraces "picardia" (being crafty/sly), which can be seen quite clearly in their interpretation of "fair play" (watch how theatrical fouls are) and current Government representatives etc...etc..etc.. Play for Brazil then. Too many loopholes to pick and choose which international country you want to play for imo. He already has done. He's been capped twice. I thought if you had a senior cap you couldn't play for anyone else? That's why Sterling made a pointless appearance last season to keep Jamaica away Playing in a friendly does not tie you down to that FA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 He'd be better off playing for Belgium if he aim to achieve anything in international football. Since he was born in Belgium, and lived there for his first 16 years of his life, it goes without saying that he is Belgian. Ridiculous that it's even up for discussion who he should play for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 He'd be better off playing for Belgium if he aim to achieve anything in international football. Since he was born in Belgium, and lived there for his first 16 years of his life, it goes without saying that he is Belgian. Ridiculous that it's even up for discussion who he should play for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 It's really up to him to decide if he's Belgian, but I know what you mean. If you grow up in Belgium seems unlikely you'll decide you're suddenly English. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Why would he be better off playing for Belgium with a view to achievements? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Wilshere's clearly not the brightest of lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Wilshere's clearly not the brightest of lads. Comes across as an almighty prick generally, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Owen Hargreaves never lived in England until he joined Manchester United. IMO it's more of a sticky situation with European to European moves. Nobody would've complained had Moses chosen England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Wilshere's clearly not the brightest of lads. Comes across as an almighty prick generally, IMO. 100% agree. In that one quote from this knuckle dragger we have one of the reasons why we (England) will not win any major tournament in most of our lifetimes...short sighted and so backward, Maybe he's making his play for the EDL leadership now that there is a vacancy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Wilshere's clearly not the brightest of lads. Comes across as an almighty prick generally, IMO. Agreed. Total opposite of Ramsey in that regard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Good to see his fairly innocuous comments have been blown thoroughly out of proportion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Good to see his fairly innocuous comments have been blown thoroughly out of proportion. Fwiw, my thoughts on him generally have very little to do with these comments. I think they were unnecessary but fairly off-the-cuff. Much ado about nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Good to see his fairly innocuous comments have been blown thoroughly out of proportion. Fwiw, my thoughts on him generally have very little to do with these comments. I think they were unnecessary but fairly off-the-cuff. Much ado about nothing. Fair enough and I can totally understand why people don't like him. Big fan myself, love for us to produce that kind of player even if he was half as good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Good to see his fairly innocuous comments have been blown thoroughly out of proportion. Fwiw, my thoughts on him generally have very little to do with these comments. I think they were unnecessary but fairly off-the-cuff. Much ado about nothing. Fair enough and I can totally understand why people don't like him. Big fan myself, love for us to produce that kind of player even if he was half as good. Depends if we're talking about the player or the person - because they illicit 2 entirely different reactions from myself. He should be the fulcrum of our midfield for the next 10 years if he lives up to his potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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