SEMTEX Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Nah, no-one said that. People said a lot of teams attempt to raise their game against us, but no-one is questioning that we're really rather shite right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Not at all, I don't have a problem with England. But can't be having someone basically saying "We finished bottom of our World Cup group without a win because we're too good." And how can it possibly be a historical thing when you have won bugger all in 50 years? Didn't even qualify for the World Cup back to back in the 70s and in 94. Not see the footage of the magical Magyars celebrating around Wembley after destroying England 6-3 in 53? Maybe the Danish side doing the same in 83? It's always been a big thing to beat England. You yourself beat us at Windsor Park and then celebrated like you'd won the World Cup. Would you have celebrated in such a fashion after beating say Poland or Belgium? Would you fuck We celebrated beating Spain more tbh. And just as much when we beat the likes of Sweden and Denmark when we almost qualified for Euro 2008. We're shit, but our fans are second to none so we go mad anytime we beat a half decent team. But it was more than beating a half decent team, it's beating your bigger neighbour. Lower league players playing against players they don't come across often especially these days. It's different with Northern Ireland anyhow. Most people there would rather stuff the Republic than stuff England; would they not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 just baiting the irish then? righto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 just baiting the irish then? righto I hope it's baiting, 'cause there's been some really cringe-worthy comments on the last few pages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 just baiting the irish then? righto Not at all. It's just some Irish posters thought I was specifically referring to Ireland . When I wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Nah, no-one said that. People said a lot of teams attempt to raise their game against us, but no-one is questioning that we're really rather shite right now. Exactly this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Most people there would rather stuff the Republic than stuff England; would they not? Of course, it's always been that way as it's a heated rivalry that stems from a number of things outside of football. You'd be suprised at how many people from here that actually support England at major finals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 just baiting the irish then? righto Not at all. It's just some Irish posters thought I was specifically referring to Ireland . When I wasn't. Me and Ronaldo were just having a bit of banter ( ) when you came in with your 'England don't care about any other country' spiel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 just baiting the irish then? righto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 It must hurt you, that. Not as much as it would hurt you to see Ireland qualify Just another foreign country to us. No different from any other. You can't say the same about us. Not another foreign country to Ronaldo, he fucking hates Ireland I'm fairly sure you're flattering yourself somewhat there I'm not and I'd say he would probably admit he hates Ireland or at least has a dislike for Ireland I'm a proud Brit and obviously react to anti-British nonsense from the Irish but I really don't dislike Ireland more than any other European country. I love Father Ted too and some of that was actually filmed in Ireland, so goes the rumour. There you go triggs. Just as I said. It's a fact of life that England or Britain are far more important to other nations than they are to us. Everybody and everyone raises their game to play us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Most people there would rather stuff the Republic than stuff England; would they not? Of course, it's always been that way as it's a heated rivalry that stems from a number of things outside of football. You'd be suprised at how many people from here that actually support England at major finals. It's the English media the Irish can't stand more than anything. You still have a lot of people with the "anyone but England" approach but most of us don't care. It would be hypocritical to shit all over the England national team if you're an English club supporter as well IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 It must hurt you, that. Not as much as it would hurt you to see Ireland qualify Just another foreign country to us. No different from any other. You can't say the same about us. Not another foreign country to Ronaldo, he fucking hates Ireland I'm fairly sure you're flattering yourself somewhat there I'm not and I'd say he would probably admit he hates Ireland or at least has a dislike for Ireland I'm a proud Brit and obviously react to anti-British nonsense from the Irish but I really don't dislike Ireland more than any other European country. I love Father Ted too and some of that was actually filmed in Ireland, so goes the rumour. There you go triggs. Just as I said. It's a fact of life that England or Britain are far more important to other nations than they are to us. Everybody and everyone raises their game to play us. Yes, but that was after you picked up on an innocuous comment that was aimed at Ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Most people there would rather stuff the Republic than stuff England; would they not? Of course, it's always been that way as it's a heated rivalry that stems from a number of things outside of football. You'd be suprised at how many people from here that actually support England at major finals. It's the English media the Irish can't stand more than anything. You still have a lot of people with the "anyone but England" approach but most of us don't care. It would be hypocritical to shit all over the England national team if you're an English club supporter as well IMO. Now all the massive cunts like Terry, Cole and now Gerrard are gone and you have team mostly made of young, likeable players I certainly wouldn't mind seeing England win something. Just need a manager who can get them playing decent football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 just baiting the irish then? righto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/4886248/whatever-o.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 i'm english but since 1990 have had absolutely nothing but utter disdain for the england international scene - there can not be a nation that has failed to meet it's expectations so consistently, if there is i'd love to know who i'd honestly say it's a steady decline and all since sky took over football and it'll keep going that way until someone has the balls to take it back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I think it's fair to say that a lot of nations (not just Ireland, Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland) like beating us as I wouldn't say the English are very well-liked globally. I doubt that any team would raise their game against us though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 i'm english but since 1990 have had absolutely nothing but utter disdain for the england international scene - there can not be a nation that has failed to meet it's expectations so consistently, if there is i'd love to know who i'd honestly say it's a steady decline and all since sky took over football and it'll keep going that way until someone has the balls to take it back You must have enjoyed Euro 96 surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 i'm english but since 1990 have had absolutely nothing but utter disdain for the england international scene - there can not be a nation that has failed to meet it's expectations so consistently, if there is i'd love to know who i'd honestly say it's a steady decline and all since sky took over football and it'll keep going that way until someone has the balls to take it back You must have enjoyed Euro 96 surely? yes and no, i enjoyed it for what it was but in terms of england i was stood about in the pubs watching people go batshit about england when it was clear they were never the best team in it...bit like brazil this summer as i've got older i've warmed to england more, back then i had zero national sentiment, arguably negative tbh EDIT: in fact i'd say since about 1990 until recently i only ever paid attention to toon players playing for england, beyond that i didn't care and still don't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 i'm english but since 1990 have had absolutely nothing but utter disdain for the england international scene - there can not be a nation that has failed to meet it's expectations so consistently, if there is i'd love to know who i'd honestly say it's a steady decline and all since sky took over football and it'll keep going that way until someone has the balls to take it back You must have enjoyed Euro 96 surely? yes and no, i enjoyed it for what it was but in terms of england i was stood about in the pubs watching people go batshit about england when it was clear they were never the best team in it...bit like brazil this summer as i've got older i've warmed to england more, back then i had zero national sentiment, arguably negative tbh EDIT: in fact i'd say since about 1990 until recently i only ever paid attention to toon players playing for england, beyond that i didn't care and still don't What's wrong with that like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 i'm english but since 1990 have had absolutely nothing but utter disdain for the england international scene - there can not be a nation that has failed to meet it's expectations so consistently, if there is i'd love to know who i'd honestly say it's a steady decline and all since sky took over football and it'll keep going that way until someone has the balls to take it back You must have enjoyed Euro 96 surely? yes and no, i enjoyed it for what it was but in terms of england i was stood about in the pubs watching people go batshit about england when it was clear they were never the best team in it...bit like brazil this summer as i've got older i've warmed to england more, back then i had zero national sentiment, arguably negative tbh EDIT: in fact i'd say since about 1990 until recently i only ever paid attention to toon players playing for england, beyond that i didn't care and still don't What's wrong with that like? i explained it in the next sentence i think, not that there's anything wrong with it of course i've just never been in the billy england camp...always wanted the best football/team to win, in fact i'd say i still do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 This still going on? Can't we all just agree that England's a much better country with an underachieving team and nobody hates Ireland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 This still going on? Can't we all just agree that England's a much better country with an underachieving team and nobody hates Ireland. I'd agree with that. Can't see the inferiors agreeing though[emoji6] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 This still going on? Can't we all just agree that England's a much better country with an underachieving team and nobody hates Ireland. I'd agree with that. Can't see the inferiors agreeing though[emoji6] too busy tarmacking, lets just unilaterally agree to call it a day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 This still going on? Can't we all just agree that England's a much better country with an underachieving team and nobody hates Ireland. I know I'm biting but why exactly is England a much better country? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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