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Was meant to highlight the Pirlo bit. Still agree in general, it's not like Italy/Uruguay have any width themselves anyway and it should help us keep the ball against Costa Rica as well.

 

Just not a fan of the 4-2-3-1 at all really.

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Barkley, Sterling, Wellbeck, Sturridge, Wilshere, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Henderson, Redmond, Berahino, Shaw, Jones, Smalling, Hughes, Morrison, Shelvey, Ince and Zaha in particular are all exciting attacking players of a good age that should serve England well in the coming years. None are genuine world-class players and none may ever reach such a level either, but they are good players to a man and if used right can shine. We need more quality in defence and up front though. Barkley is the stand out player for me and AOC can be, but he needs to move away from Arsenal as he needs to play every game and in a role that best suits him, Wenger fannies around too much see Wallcott for example...

 

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Jones, Smalling, Shaw and Welbeck are exciting attacking players? News to me, like.

 

:lol: You mean you didn't see the news about it?!

 

Seriously, we do have some exciting younger players, especially attacking players.

 

I actually rate Wellbeck, he's a poor finisher but he makes things happen with bis running, work-rate and his ability to roam around several forward positions.

 

In time he'll develop into a very good player, but he badly needs to get away from Man Utd and become a regular up top for someone. I'd love him here like.

 

Smalling and Jones haven't developed quite as good as their original potential showed that they could, but again I believe that's down to who they are playing for. They too need to move.

 

I like Hodgson and rate him as a good coach, but these young players need someone who will let them loose so to speak.

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If we went into the season with Cisse and Welbeck as our main strikers - we'll get relegated i'm sure of it.

 

And i'm a massive Danny Welbeck fan.

 

On another note: By exciting, attacking young players all you actually mean is - they are unproven. 4 years ago people said Ashley Young was an exciting player because he played well against PL defences. As soon as he started playing regular CL football and international football his card got pulled. Half the players mentioned - cards will get pulled over the next couple of seasons.

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If we went into the season with Cisse and Welbeck as our main strikers - we'll get relegated i'm sure of it.

 

And i'm a massive Danny Welbeck fan.

 

On another note: By exciting, attacking young players all you actually mean is - they are unproven. 4 years ago people said Ashley Young was an exciting player because he played well against PL defences. As soon as he started playing regular CL football and international football his card got pulled. Half the players mentioned - cards will get pulled over the next couple of seasons.

 

I agree with you if we were to have Wellbeck and Cisse up front for us, unless the latter found his scoring feet again!

 

RE Young, for me he joined the wrong club. He should have stayed at Villa being the main man, scoring and creating. He has regressed simply because he has been played in numerous positions or roles and hasn't played regularly. He was a very good player at Villa, much better than what he has become at Man Utd. Man Utd have had a habit over the years of actually suffocating talent. Rooney to a degree, Nani etc.

 

You are right though, a number of them will not develop, but all of them as of now have potential and that means they have a chance.

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So who's getting injured tonight? I'm going with Glen Johnson

You wish

 

When the other options appear to be centre back John Stones, centre back Phil Jones, centre back Chris Smalling, grafter come nothing player James Milner and king of the scousers John Flanagan it's a concern.

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Should get an idea of who's starting vs Italy. You'd imagine Woy would start as close a team as possible to that.

 

Fully expecting one of, if not both, Welbeck and Milner. :anguish:

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Has to be shopped...can't imagine anyone would do that.

 

I really hope it is.

 

Stop being a hippy fanny, it's all grown back now. Mate just text me this on another flight...

 

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