Joe Kinnear (old thread)

[Yorkie]

Should have quit after "Shut up NE5... do you ever shut up?" tbh.

[Nobody]

Should have quit after "Shut up NE5... do you ever shut up?" tbh.

Was just thinking the same

[Dave]

Should have quit after "Shut up NE5... do you ever shut up?" tbh.

 

:lol:

[James]

[Interpolic]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/05/joe-kinnear-newcastle-united-mike-ashley-michael-owen

 

Nice to see JFK keeping up his charm offensive. In the unlikely event he was made manager there would be hell on!!

 

"Joe Kinnear accuses Newcastle Supporters of irrational loathing of Londoners"!!!

"Mike Ashley Treated Unfairly"

 

That's the spirit Joe Lad...................................

 

We were 2-0 up against Aston Villa [in November] and a chant broke out around the entire stadium for about 10 minutes, 'There's only one KK.' You get it whoever you are, it's just the way they are.

 

Aye right.

 

Up there, KK and Shearer are their two Messiahs and that's who they want all the time. And so you just have to bite the bullet and get on with it if you're not one of those two.

 

It's difficult to take to a sycophantic yes-man gobshite who has no discernable qualities other than that he wouldn't look out of place at one of the greasy burger vans outside.

 

I spoke to Alex [Ferguson] prior to Michael going there and I think the move will inspire him.

 

Course you did, Jesus Christ.

 

He's had some decent games for us but when we don't produce, he gets starved and it's tough for him. He just had to roll his sleeves up at Newcastle, they are not a glamour team. He has gone to a real glamour team now.

 

Stop speaking in the present tense you delusional fuckwit.  And it's not about glamour - it's about putting a shift in because that's your job, a job you get well paid for and you're not better than.  Kinnear defending Owen man, fuck's sake.

 

[GM]

 

Joe Kinnear accuses Newcastle fans of irrational loathing of Londoners

 

• Mike Ashley 'gets a lot of unfair criticism' as a southerner

• Michael Owen was always unhappy in 'workmanlike side'

 

Joe Kinnear has suggested that Newcastle United's support is prejudiced against Londoners – including the club's Buckinghamshire-born owner, Mike Ashley – and that only Kevin Keegan and Alan Shearer could enjoy unconditional support as manager.

 

Kinnear claimed todaythat Ashley, who has been trying to sell the club "for over 12 months", had made him the offer last month of a two-year contract to come back as manager, only for him to turn it down on medical grounds. His doctor says that he cannot return to the dug-out until December at the earliest. But it was Kinnear's comments about regional attitudes that will stir debate. "I think Mike Ashley got a lot of unfair criticism last year, I think anybody from London does, that's the way life is up there," said Kinnear.

 

"We were 2-0 up against Aston Villa [in November] and a chant broke out around the entire stadium for about 10 minutes, 'There's only one KK.' You get it whoever you are, it's just the way they are. Up there, KK and Shearer are their two Messiahs and that's who they want all the time. And so you just have to bite the bullet and get on with it if you're not one of those two."

 

Kinnear's opinion about Newcastle was countered by a spokesman for the regional development agency One North East. He said: "The north-east is well known for being one of the most welcoming areas of the UK. Last year Lonely Planet described the north-east as 'the most exciting, beautiful and friendly region in the whole of England'."

 

Kinnear, who was born in Dublin but grew up in London, was Ashley's shock managerial appointment last September after Keegan walked out but was forced from the post following a triple heart bypass operation in February. After a spell under the caretaker guidance of the coach Chris Hughton Shearer took over for the final eight Premier League matches but he was unable to prevent relegation.

 

Ashley has given serious consideration to appointing a manager on a short-term contract, with David O'Leary, Alan Curbishley, Gordon Strachan and Steve Coppell discussed at boardroom level. Hughton will be in charge of the club's opening Championship fixture at West Bromwich Albion on Saturday.

 

Kinnear said that the club's sale "could happen in the next month" but he cannot see Shearer returning as manager while Ashley remains the owner. "I would think Shearer would go back if the new buyers come in," he said. "He won't under the present ownership. At the moment I wouldn't think there's any chance."

 

Kinnear also backed the striker Michael Owen to return to form at Manchester United, the club he joined last month after four disappointing seasons at Newcastle. "Michael will be a much better player alongside the type of players that Man United have got," he said at the launch of the new Championship Manager 2010 game. "Unfortunately we were just a workmanlike side, we didn't create enough chances for him. At Newcastle he got a little bit stale and disappointed with what he was playing with. I spoke to Alex [Ferguson] prior to Michael going there and I think the move will inspire him."

 

Kinnear said that Ferguson had inquired about Owen's "fitness level, nothing else". "Michael is only 29, people forget that," said Kinnear. "He's had some decent games for us but when we don't produce, he gets starved and it's tough for him. He just had to roll his sleeves up at Newcastle, they are not a glamour team. He has gone to a real glamour team now."

 

* guardian.co.uk © Guardian News and Media Limited 2009

 

Go to: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/05/joe-kinnear-newcastle-united-mike-ashley-michael-owen

 

[ianovthetoon]

It's not as though Joe and his pals have portrayed the positives about being Cockney mind is it? The problem is we've been in such a shit situation only the likes of Keegan and Shearer would be given time because of the shite situation we find ourselves in thanks to his Cockney friends. As someone said on 5 live. We don't neccesarily want a Geordie, only someone who knows what they're doing

[Wullie]

He's right like, Rob Lee and Les Ferdinand were always getting stick.

[TRon]

According to today's Telegraph if the club sale falls through, Ashley WAS planning on offering Kinnear the job. I'm 100% certain this is true, and now the Club are probably backtracking after the shit hit the fans.

 

 

[TRon]

Terry Venables with a hard hitting article blasting Ashley in the Sun

 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/sunsport_columnists/2573482/Terry-Venables-Newcastle-are-rudderless.html

 

NEWCASTLE RUDDERLESS

 

THE news that Newcastle United asked a man still recovering from a triple heart bypass to be their new manager saddens me.

Because a once-proud club like the Toon, with all their history, tradition, reputation and passion, should never have to resort to such a desperate option.

 

Is that how bad things have got up there? Is that how far the club has sunk?

 

This is not a reflection on Joe Kinnear, who deserves the utmost credit for trying to save the club when he took over last year after I turned down the chance.

 

But, by his own admission, he is not ready to return to management after life-saving surgery.

 

He concedes it would be too much for him.

 

In fact, the situation at St James' Park would be too much for any man right now.

 

Preparation is key in any division, particularly the Championship - the most unforgiving of competitions, in which Newcastle must now play after last season's relegation.

 

Anyone asked to take on the monumental job of returning the Geordies to the top flight - where they belong - needs time.

 

Time to bring in and, just as importantly, ship out the right players.

 

But the delay in naming a new boss has left the Toon in the lurch.

 

One explanation for why they have not yet appointed a manager is that the club has been on the brink of being sold more than once, so they did not want to install a manager the new owners would get rid of.

 

But they desperately need a new manager in charge now - preferably one healthy enough to prevent the club from slipping even further.

 

If, as reported, owner Mike Ashley has lost a packet on Newcastle, I hope he realises the club would be worth even less in League One.

 

Newcastle too big to go down again? Ask Norwich. Charlton. Southampton. Leeds.

 

I was asked to save the club from relegation before Joe was offered the job last September.

 

I never met Ashley, I met his right-hand men Derek Llambias, Tony Jimenez and Dennis Wise.

 

They said they wanted me to take over but could not guarantee how long I'd have the job.

 

I told them I was interested in the post for the rest of the season but they said the club could be sold at any time.

 

You couldn't blame them or Ashley for that - but I asked where that left me, as I needed time to get the club away from danger.

 

Llambias, Jimenez and Wise, to their credit, were honest with me and could not offer me any guarantees.

 

I asked if the club could be sold within six weeks and they said "Yes".

 

Despite relishing the challenge of managing a team like Newcastle, I told them I would not be able to take the job because, if new owners came in, I would be left in no man's land.

 

I was worried I would be out of the door as soon as the club was sold.

 

They told me it might not happen.

 

Sadly, I couldn't work on maybes.

 

It is a shame but I am guessing the uncertainty in the boardroom is why Alan Shearer has not returned.

 

When he went in at the end of last season, I believed the club would get back on an even keel, even after their relegation to the Championship.

 

Like Kevin Keegan, he is the Toon Army's dream appointment. He would have got the place buzzing again.

 

With that Gallowgate groundswell of passion and delirium, I could have seen Newcastle romping to promotion this season, as they did with Keegan.

 

There is every likelihood they would have then been back in the Premier League for 2010/11 with Shearer in charge and a better boss to boot, having had a season to cut his teeth in the Championship.

 

As things stand, they will head to their opener at West Brom on Saturday with caretakers Chris Hughton and Colin Calderwood in the dugout, with Shearer in the TV studio as he resumes his duties with the BBC.

 

What a shame. For Newcastle. For football. And, ultimately, for Ashley.

 

Hughton and Calderwood are in a difficult position.

 

We should never read too much into pre-season friendlies but Newcastle's 6-1 defeat at Leyton Orient the other week spoke volumes. It told us, as if we needed telling, that all is not well in the dressing room.

 

When things are not going right, players will use anything as an excuse. They rarely hold their hands up and admit they had a bad game.

 

What you must do is try to remove any excuses for things going wrong.

 

Unfortunately, the Newcastle players have a million things on which to hang the blame for their current predicament.

 

And you can't really blame them for that. They, like the rest of us, want to know: What's going on?

 

[NG32]

Jesus wept, Kinear is a total Knacker.

[MW]

Good article from Venables, though nothing new.

[Guest Stephen927]

Anybody else hear his interview, he messed up Llambias' name at the beginning, I doubt we'll see him as manager anytime soon after that little stunt.

[MW]

Amamobi and Llambayas

[Wallace]

The Mirror are not impressed by JFK.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2009/08/06/say-it-ain-t-so-joe-115875-21574757/

 

Joe Kinnear claim proves that Newcastle are now beyond a joke  By Mike Walters 6/08/2009

 

 

Laughing stocks are supposed to be funny, but the bleak farce of Newcastle United has gone way beyond a joke.

 

Relegation was bad enough. Then the Cockney Mafia put the club up for sale at a knock-down price, only to find even David Dickinson was not interested in the bargain hunt.

 

Meanwhile, Geordie messiah Alan Shearer - the only man the fans trust - has been left to seek refuge on a BBC sofa while the impoverished team is humiliated 6-1 by the full might of Leyton Orient in a pre-season friendly.

 

Quizzed on whether he could have asked for more, Orient manager Geraint Williams observed, without a trace of pathos: "A clean sheet would have been nice."

 

In the Championship this season, goals may be harder to come by than fashion acclaim for the Toon's hideous orange-and-lemon away strip. Michael Owen has left for Old Trafford, while Obafemi Martins has been flogged for £9million to a German club of no fixed mediocrity.

 

And just when long-suffering diehards thought it couldn't get any worse, Joe Kinnear rose yesterday from six months in the sick bay to announce that his second coming as manager may be as soon as next month. When Kinnear, owner Mike Ashley's puppet appointment, announced at Villa Park he had been offered a two-year contract, the groans could be heard 200 miles away on Tyneside.

 

Kinnear's recovery from triple heart bypass surgery is, of course, a cause for celebration. But as a footballing appointment, his return to St James' Park ahead of people's choice Shearer would be like sending George Bush to the Middle East as a peace envoy.

 

Kinnear, 62, was helping to launch interactive computer game Championship Manager 2010 yesterday when he unleashed his bolt from the blue.

 

He said: "I spoke to (managing director) Derek Llambias, we had a long chat and he offered me a twoyear contract. They wanted to announce it last week for the pre-season friendly at Dundee United, but we've put it on hold.

 

"It didn't coincide with my medical situation and I've told them I need another month. I've got one more visit to the hospital and, up until now, everything has gone really well.

 

"I'm hoping that this time next month I will have the all-clear to come back into football.

 

"Hopefully the opportunity will still be there, but at the same time the club could be sold or someone else has taken the job." Barely an hour earlier, Kinnear appeared to have rejected the idea of returning to Newcastle by saying doctors had advised him against a return to the dug-out until December.

 

"I told them I wasn't up to it for medical reasons," insisted JFK. "I need to take time out and reassess the situation. In another three months, the picture might be completely different - if Newcastle feel they need to get another manager, so be it."

 

In between the mixed messages, Kinnear magnanimously offered Shearer the chance to work with him, adding: "I would certainly love that opportunity, if Alan wants to come in."

 

Big Al, however, may be in no rush to grasp the olive branch.

 

When he took over as interim manager with eight games of last season remaining, Shearer inherited a side who had won five games out of 26. And team discipline was such a distant rumour that he felt obliged to issue a new rulebook covering everything from punctuality to nocturnal socialising.

 

By his own admission, if Kinnear accepted the poisoned chalice again, there would be no money for new signings and he warned: "At the moment, the squad is very thin and if there were any injuries in key areas, we would seriously struggle."

 

On the day one of Geordieland's finest sons, Sir Bobby Robson, was laid to rest at a private family burial, Ashley's decision to risk the Gallowgate End's wrath by going cap-in-hand to Kinnear was like a requiem for a great club.

 

It can't get much worse... anyone for Dennis Wise?

 

 

[ianovthetoon]

If a few anti Mike Ashley songs inevitably rear their head tomorrow, I think a song or maybe a banner or two should be displayed making it abundantly clear to this knacker that he won't be welcomed back with open arms

[ToonTastic]

If a few anti Mike Ashley songs inevitably rear their head tomorrow, I think a song or maybe a banner or two should be displayed making it abundantly clear to this knacker that he won't be welcomed back with open arms

 

What's going on tomorrow ?

[Dave]

Journal:

 

A source close to Shearer said of Kinnear’s comments: “Alan did not know anything about it and, although he has been told Joe is wrong and that he wasn’t offered the job, he is concerned.

 

“Too many lies have been told already regarding the takeover of the club and he is as frustrated as anyone.

 

“At the moment all Alan can do is continue to wait for updates and hope that the club is sold as soon as possible. His position has not changed.”

[Guest The Libertine]

if kinnear had been offered anything he'd be here now, fucking everything up further.

[TRon]

Read the Journal article and it's obvious that Kinnear is obviously being kept in the loop far more than Shearer, something which must make him furious privately. He's even talking about the offers for the club only being £75m FFS.

[Tooj]

Was listening to a bit of Hendrix earlier on. Dawned on me you could actually imagine Kinnear doing this.

 

Hey Joe, where you goin' with that gun in your hand

Hey Joe, I said where you goin' with that gun in your hand

 

I'm going down to shoot my old lady

You know, I've caught her messin' around with another man

I'm going down to shoot my old lady

You know, I've caught her messin' around with another man

And that ain't too cool

 

Hey Joe, I've heard you shot your woman down,

shot her down, now

I said I've heard you shot your old lady down,

You shot her down to the ground

 

Yes I did, I shot her

You know, I caught her messin' round, messin' round town

Yes I did, I shot her

You know, I caught my old lady messin' around town

And I gave her the gun

I SHOT HER!

 

Hey Joe, alright

Shoot her one more time, baby

 

Hey Joe, said now

Where you gonna run to now?

Where you gonna run to?

Hey Joe, I said where you gonna run to now?

Where you, where you gonna go?

Well, dig it

 

I'm goin' way down south,

Way down to Mexico way

Alright!

I'm goin' way down south,

Way down where I can be free

Ain't no one gonna find me

 

Ain't no hangman gonna,

He ain't gonna put a rope around me

You better believe it right now

I gotta go now

Hey Joe, you better run on down

Good by everybody

Hey Joe, uhh

Run on down

[Dave]

Fucking awesome track.

[Keefaz]

Fucking awesome track.

 

On the cutting edge as per usual, Dave. If you like that, you might want to check out this other band called The Rolling Stones. They could be the next big thing.

[nobby_solano]

f***ing awesome track.

 

On the cutting edge as per usual, Dave. If you like that, you might want to check out this other band called The Rolling Stones. They could be the next big thing.

 

nah, i doubt they'll have the staying power

[Guest Heneage]

f***ing awesome track.

 

On the cutting edge as per usual, Dave. If you like that, you might want to check out this other band called The Rolling Stones. They could be the next big thing.

 

nah, i doubt they'll have the staying power

Dunno, I've tried listening to them but I can't get no satisfaction.