Guest guinness_fiend Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Almost every generation of Liverpool fans can remember winning at least one trophy, most more than that. Whilst I cannot stand the fans, they have more of a right than most to be arrogant. No offence, but thats still "We should win stuff because we've won stuff in the past" - ie - DIVINE RIGHT No offence taken, you didn't actually read my comment. I didn't say they have a divine right, I said they have more of a right than most - objectively speaking. I also said that I cannot stand their fans. At the end of the day, they have a legitimate expectation given their history of consistently winning things. It must hit fans hard when they're used to having everything laid out on a plate for them. Lord only knows what would happen in Manchester if Man Utd didn't qualify for Europe. Air Asia would go out of business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 we should all prey that portsmouth are allowed in the europa league cos it will mean liverpool wont qualify for europe as things stand :lol: Funny how Liverpool fans aren't "arrogant" for expecting automatic champs league place, and cups every year (still not enough) and we ARE for expecting to be in the Prem with 50,000 gates ! I agree wholeheartedly. Love to see Liverpool miss out and hear the screams of condemnation, and demands they should be allowed in anyways because they are Liverpool. For someone who so regularly whinges about lazy stereotyping of Newcastle fans you seem to spend a surprising amount of time lazily stereotyping fans of other clubs. Hardly. Simple enough isn't it ? Have a quick look at some of the attacks on us - they exist, right ? Now have a look for Liverpool fans who believe they have a RIGHT to the top table. Why is this so hard for the pair of you to understand ? You disagree. Fine. Now Mowen. Point out a Liverpool fan who DOESN'T think that they should be in Champs League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 McClaren's Twente on the verge of the Dutch title now, they need a win on the last game of the season to guarentee being champions. Incredible difference in goals scored and goal difference between the top 2 though: http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u242/supersewelly/twente.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 we should all prey that portsmouth are allowed in the europa league cos it will mean liverpool wont qualify for europe as things stand :lol: Funny how Liverpool fans aren't "arrogant" for expecting automatic champs league place, and cups every year (still not enough) and we ARE for expecting to be in the Prem with 50,000 gates ! I agree wholeheartedly. Love to see Liverpool miss out and hear the screams of condemnation, and demands they should be allowed in anyways because they are Liverpool. For someone who so regularly whinges about lazy stereotyping of Newcastle fans you seem to spend a surprising amount of time lazily stereotyping fans of other clubs. Hardly. Simple enough isn't it ? Have a quick look at some of the attacks on us - they exist, right ? Now have a look for Liverpool fans who believe they have a RIGHT to the top table. Why is this so hard for the pair of you to understand ? You disagree. Fine. Now Mowen. Point out a Liverpool fan who DOESN'T think that they should be in Champs League. http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9462/gerrardevertonra6.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 we should all prey that portsmouth are allowed in the europa league cos it will mean liverpool wont qualify for europe as things stand :lol: Funny how Liverpool fans aren't "arrogant" for expecting automatic champs league place, and cups every year (still not enough) and we ARE for expecting to be in the Prem with 50,000 gates ! I agree wholeheartedly. Love to see Liverpool miss out and hear the screams of condemnation, and demands they should be allowed in anyways because they are Liverpool. For someone who so regularly whinges about lazy stereotyping of Newcastle fans you seem to spend a surprising amount of time lazily stereotyping fans of other clubs. Hardly. Simple enough isn't it ? Have a quick look at some of the attacks on us - they exist, right ? Now have a look for Liverpool fans who believe they have a RIGHT to the top table. Why is this so hard for the pair of you to understand ? You disagree. Fine. Now Mowen. Point out a Liverpool fan who DOESN'T think that they should be in Champs League. No Liverpool fan I know (not that many, granted) thinks they should be in the Champions League next season. Where do you get the impression that they all believe they should / deserve to be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9462/gerrardevertonra6.jpg That's cheating ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 McClaren's Twente on the verge of the Dutch title now, they need a win on the last game of the season to guarentee being champions. Incredible difference in goals scored and goal difference between the top 2 though: http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u242/supersewelly/twente.jpg Done a brilliant job either way old Umbrella boy. Ajax's goal difference is a joke though. Absolutely amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 No Liverpool fan I know (not that many, granted) thinks they should be in the Champions League next season. Now I only know 3 Liverpool fans, and two I have asked DO think it is their RIGHT to be at the very top.* And you can only judge from what you experience, whether it's TV types (yes, i know. BBC/ITV/Sky ask the worst kind of Newcastle fan) and people you know. And in this regard personally it's as close to 100% as I can recall. Pointless going on about it, but they're in the news. Theres plenty evidence at this moment. * Actually I know more Man U fans, and THEY aren't as convinced they "deserve" endless trophies. Just bragging rights, which you can't argue about. Personal experience isn't positive or even, Id have thought arguable. There you go. Some think differently, then. Shock ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 McClaren's Twente on the verge of the Dutch title now, they need a win on the last game of the season to guarentee being champions. Incredible difference in goals scored and goal difference between the top 2 though: http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u242/supersewelly/twente.jpg Done a brilliant job either way old Umbrella boy. Ajax's goal difference is a joke though. Absolutely amazing. Yep, Twente are garbage and McClaren is a toss manager - grinding out draws and one-nils away from home... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 No Liverpool fan I know (not that many, granted) thinks they should be in the Champions League next season. Now I only know 3 Liverpool fans, and two I have asked DO think it is their RIGHT to be at the very top. And you can only judge from what you experience, whether it's TV types (yes, i know. BBC/ITV/Sky ask the worst kind of Newcastle fan) and people you know. And in this regard personally it's as close to 100% as I can recall. Pointless going on about it, but they're in the news. Theres plenty evidence at this moment. So you'll believe the media portrayal if it suits what you think anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 No Liverpool fan I know (not that many, granted) thinks they should be in the Champions League next season. Now I only know 3 Liverpool fans, and two I have asked DO think it is their RIGHT to be at the very top. And you can only judge from what you experience, whether it's TV types (yes, i know. BBC/ITV/Sky ask the worst kind of Newcastle fan) and people you know. And in this regard personally it's as close to 100% as I can recall. Pointless going on about it, but they're in the news. Theres plenty evidence at this moment. So you'll believe the media portrayal if it suits what you think anyway? You clearly do, eh ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Eh? Caaaaalm down, caaaaalm down! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 McClaren's Twente on the verge of the Dutch title now, they need a win on the last game of the season to guarentee being champions. Incredible difference in goals scored and goal difference between the top 2 though: http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u242/supersewelly/twente.jpg Done a brilliant job either way old Umbrella boy. Ajax's goal difference is a joke though. Absolutely amazing. Yep, Twente are garbage and McClaren is a toss manager - grinding out draws and one-nils away from home... I'd happily suffer that - if Newcastle were top with a goal difference a third of 2nd place, tho' The old fashioned Arsenal approach. 1-0 to the Arsenal and all that. I'd put up with that ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Eh? Caaaaalm down, caaaaalm down! You fothermucker - you beat me to it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 But I read the paper the other day and it told me you'd rather lose 4-3 than win 1-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 eh? What are the media doing as regards to Liverpool ? Negative, like us ? Or that they are right, and the owners wrong (which we didn't get if you recall) and that whatever their demands are, they are not unreasonable - while occupying a place in the top half of the table ? (Nothing nasty intended, but Id have thought that was obvious, actually) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Hell I'd even rather lose 1-0 than win 4-3 tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 But I read the paper the other day and it told me you'd rather lose 4-3 than win 1-0. Media says a lot of stuff, don't they. It's rather like expecting the Daily Mail to be even handed in regards to Tory and Labour, FGS ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 eh? What are the media doing as regards to Liverpool ? Negative, like us ? Or that they are right, and the owners wrong (which we didn't get if you recall) and that whatever their demands are, they are not unreasonable - while occupying a place in the top half of the table ? (Nothing nasty intended, but Id have thought that was obvious, actually) You said you'd judge what the Liverpool fans based on what you see of them on the telly. 98% of all fans that get on the telly are idiots. If you're not doing that you seem to have decided all Liverpool fans are divine righters based on the opinions of two people you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Get a room, you two. Just imagine the angry make-up sex you'd have. It'd be incredible! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 eh? What are the media doing as regards to Liverpool ? Negative, like us ? Or that they are right, and the owners wrong (which we didn't get if you recall) and that whatever their demands are, they are not unreasonable - while occupying a place in the top half of the table ? (Nothing nasty intended, but Id have thought that was obvious, actually) You said you'd judge what the Liverpool fans based on what you see of them on the telly. 98% of all fans that get on the telly are idiots. If you're not doing that you seem to have decided all Liverpool fans are divine righters based on the opinions of two people you know. And you ? You're doing EXACTLY the same, surely ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Get a room, you two. Just imagine the angry make-up sex you'd have. It'd be incredible! God almighty. YUK. I'm going to have several beers to get shot of the thought - Mowen will think the same ! Actually, it's not angry at all. We just disagree. No harm in that - happens all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 we should all prey that portsmouth are allowed in the europa league cos it will mean liverpool wont qualify for europe as things stand :lol: Funny how Liverpool fans aren't "arrogant" for expecting automatic champs league place, and cups every year (still not enough) and we ARE for expecting to be in the Prem with 50,000 gates ! I agree wholeheartedly. Love to see Liverpool miss out and hear the screams of condemnation, and demands they should be allowed in anyways because they are Liverpool. Even if it means Villa getting in. I couldn't believe it when i heard Villa fans - many of them anyways - were furious at O'Neill and want someone else (they seem to have slunk back in the shadows recently with the disbelief from other clubs fans) You'd have a better chance of understanding it if you went to our matches, week in, week out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Villa unchanged: music to brummie's ears, no doubt. And customary Carew - Heskey sub at min 70. Watching Villa games must be like Groundhog Day sometimes. At least he's stopped bringing Sidwell on on 75 mins of late. Delfouneso is the one we've been screaming for instead of Heskey all season, incidentally. Done great things in the youth and reserve set up, did very well in the cups when used, even scored a couple in the Europa League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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