West Brom 1 - 1 Newcastle United - 08/08/09 - post match reaction from page 34

[TaylorJ_01]

Alot of you are being FAR too harsh. Basing things off past performances and stuff. Don't get me wrong, it was nothing special but there were some positives.

 

Yes, Gutierrez wasn't great. But he was getting himself into great positions and making some good runs down the flank. Just needs to get the final product sorted.

Alan Smith was very good. Well done, especially after being effectively frozen out last year. Probably my MOTM.

Coloccini is still a bit shaky but if the whole of fucking newcastle was hounding me I would be too. No doubts the guy is good technically but theres a time and a place. Had an alright game.

Ameobi was pretty ineffective. But he showed he had a bit of strength and pace (enough to take on a slow-ish defence) and I still think he will be good for this league.

Duff was alright. Good finish, ran about alot, often without an aim however.

 

Carrol and Nolan were pretty useless.

 

For me, try the same team again but stick Guthrie on for Nolan.

 

Maybe a bit over positive. But I've told myself to think as a championship club, not as a premiership club. I think we'll cope better and it's awesome being able to think of every game as one we might be able to win.

 

Tbh I really enjoyed the match. First time I've been able to say that in ages.

[madras]

playwise we dominated without creating a lot. we played the vast majority of the football which i wasn't expecting. be interesting when we play the more physical and direct teams.

[Guest prestonj1989]

Alot of you are being FAR too harsh. Basing things off past performances and stuff. Don't get me wrong, it was nothing special but there were some positives.

 

Yes, Gutierrez wasn't great. But he was getting himself into great positions and making some good runs down the flank. Just needs to get the final product sorted.

Alan Smith was very good. Well done, especially after being effectively frozen out last year. Probably my MOTM.

Coloccini is still a bit shaky but if the whole of f***ing newcastle was hounding me I would be too. No doubts the guy is good technically but theres a time and a place. Had an alright game.

Ameobi was pretty ineffective. But he showed he had a bit of strength and pace (enough to take on a slow-ish defence) and I still think he will be good for this league.

Duff was alright. Good finish, ran about alot, often without an aim however.

 

Carrol and Nolan were pretty useless.

 

For me, try the same team again but stick Guthrie on for Nolan.

 

Maybe a bit over positive. But I've told myself to think as a championship club, not as a premiership club. I think we'll cope better and it's awesome being able to think of every game as one we might be able to win.

 

Tbh I really enjoyed the match. First time I've been able to say that in ages.

 

agree with all of that to be honest especially the point about saying it was an enjoyable game. I wouldnt say Carroll was useless but not one of his better games.

[JH]

I just watched the entire game on Sky+ this morning and I agree with what TaylorJ was saying about Jonas.

 

After his absolutely WOEFUL performance against Dundee, last night was about 3000% better. He even looked like he gave more of a s***. He just needs to be able to pass and cross now.

 

EDIT: I disagree on Carroll like. He looked bright as always yesterday. He has a good touch, always involved in play and looked a threat.

[Cajun]

Carroll was a beast yesterday and he put in a massive shift. Not much coming his way from the midfield or his "strike" partner though.

[Guest CaPiTaL cHaP]

As Crumpy said, Jonas makes a run, looks up and there's no one in the box, no one attacking the near post, Nolan's not giving the short option, Ameobi's hiding behind a CB and Duff is not attacking the far post. 9/10 his only option is to pass it to Enrique.

 

Jonas ain't great by any means but he's good enough for this league i can promise, needs players to pass to though cause he can't seem to get the ball off the ground and get a speculative cross in but then, neither could Dyer.

[SUPERTOON]

A surprisingly good match. Pretty decent, and if we could make one or two signings in the right area then we could have a good season, providing we get a proper manager.

[jimmymag]

I just watched the entire game on Sky+ this morning and I agree with what TaylorJ was saying about Jonas.

 

After his absolutely WOEFUL performance against Dundee, last night was about 3000% better. He even looked like he gave more of a s***. He just needs to be able to pass and cross now.

 

EDIT: I disagree on Carroll like. He looked bright as always yesterday. He has a good touch, always involved in play and looked a threat.

 

 

Absolutely fucking hilarious! 

[Wallace]

I wasn't sure what to expect yesterday but I enjoyed the game.  As said already, yesterday was not really an opportunity to gauge how we will do in the Championship because it was WBA.  However, I was pleased that the players put the effort in which was something largley missing last season.

 

Until the transfer windows closes and we know what players we have to work with and with which manager, it is impossible to predict how we will do.  Some of those players will almost certainly be gone and going by what has happened in previous transfer windows, we don't know if (a) we will replace them, (b) the quality of the player that might be bought and © whether players will be bought for the positions needed.  Some players might up their performances in the hope it will get them a transfer and maybe demoralised if they are still here in September.

 

But today, we have a reason to look forward to next Saturday's game with a little more optimism and if we can get positive results in the next 2 home games, then that will give us a platform to build on.

[merlin]

Cannot believe that some people think Jonas and Coloccini 'just need to brush up' on this or that aspect of their game - these guys are in their mid to late 20s, there is NO WAY they are going to 'improve' now.

They are ARGENTINE INTERNATIONALS for goodness' sake ; they DON'T WANT TO BE HERE...!!!

 

No wonder Newcastle United fans get a reputation for being deluded(AND easily pleased)....

[Guest ItalianMagpie]

I was sure we would be humiliated yeaterday, in this situation I couldn't expect more from players who were already not caring last year in the Premiership. I was utterly surprised by the fight and commitment they put in the game, and although they had the best chances and we really need to thank Krul for the point, we somehow dominated the midfield play, giving the impression we will be really hard to beat for anyone in the Championship.

Also a good game too. Now I don't know what expecting from the future, of course we cannot think to keep all these players in, and we need to know who's staying who's not to understand how we could do this season.

I don't think Ashley will sell anymore, so I hope he takes the club off the market and gives some stability to the team. Somehow.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Im late to the thread because I went straight out after the match. I have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed the match. Yeah, were at a lower level, but it was nice to see us competing, and being the dominant team away from home. Krul was obviously excellent, some truly outstanding saves, but despite that I'd still give MOTM to Smith. Very few of us on here give him any time of day, but yesterday he was simply a cut above everyone else on the pitch, well done sir.

 

I thought defensively, both Enrique and STaylor were solid as a rock. Colo pissed me off for trying to be too clever when under pressure, but in all he was ok. RTaylor was average too really. For me it would be same again next game, except Barton/Guthrie for Nolan (What a fucking miss!) and get wor Nile on earlier.

 

More than anything though...I enjoyed watching us play football again, which for counts for a lot at the moment.

[Wullie]

Can't wait for next week, wish we didn't have that bye in the Carling Cup tbh.

[Alberto2005]

Can't wait for next week, wish we didn't have that bye in the Carling Cup tbh.

Me neither, Premiership starts :/

[JH]

Can't wait for next week, wish we didn't have that bye in the Carling Cup tbh.

 

Aye, competitive football is just giving me a buzz again. Love it.

[Dave]

Can't wait for next week, wish we didn't have that bye in the Carling Cup tbh.

 

[relámpago blanco]

Krul should be first choice imo, He's only played twice and in both games has been outstanding, it might sound mental but I can honestly see him becoming one of the best keepers in the world.  You can see the difference having a big keeper makes, crosses are not an issue and he's so agile for his size.  We've spent too long with just shot stoppers, the defence will be way more confident with a big lad in nets.

 

Unbelievable.

[TRon]

Can't wait for next week, wish we didn't have that bye in the Carling Cup tbh.

 

Aye, competitive football is just giving me a buzz again. Love it.

 

It's a lot more enjoyable playing against teams who we can compete with as well tbh. It's just a shame we aren't going to score many goals as things stand.

[Belfast Boy]

I've not read this thread yet, so my tuppence worth :

Positives first were Carroll, Smith and Krul.

Negatives were Ameobi, Ryan Taylor and Colocinni.

 

Overall, considering this was billed as one of the toughest games of the season, and we are currently in total disarray, then a decent performance, I feared much worse.

Desperately need some pace up front alongside Carroll, but for me, number one priority would be a right back.

[relámpago blanco]

I've not read this thread yet, so my tuppence worth :

Positives first were Carroll, Smith and Krul.

Negatives were Ameobi, Ryan Taylor and Colocinni.

 

Overall, considering this was billed as one of the toughest games of the season, and we are currently in total disarray, then a decent performance, I feared much worse.

Desperately need some pace up front alongside Carroll, but for me, number one priority would be a right back.

Raylor was decent defensively imo, going forward he was shite though but I don't understand people saying he was shocking, he made some blinding tackles.

[ChrisMcQuillan]

Raylor was good when he was in the right position.  Which unfortunately wasn't often enough.

 

 

[JH]

Krul should be first choice imo, He's only played twice and in both games has been outstanding, it might sound mental but I can honestly see him becoming one of the best keepers in the world.  You can see the difference having a big keeper makes, crosses are not an issue and he's so agile for his size.  We've spent too long with just shot stoppers, the defence will be way more confident with a big lad in nets.

 

Unbelievable.

 

Did you see yesterday?

 

Yes he's a very good keeper for his age and some of his saves yesterday were also good, but let's not get carried away. He still has a long way to go and alot to learn. For alot of the crosses yesterday, he was flapping like a bird at them.

[Guest elbee909]

Krul should be first choice imo, He's only played twice and in both games has been outstanding, it might sound mental but I can honestly see him becoming one of the best keepers in the world.  You can see the difference having a big keeper makes, crosses are not an issue and he's so agile for his size.  We've spent too long with just shot stoppers, the defence will be way more confident with a big lad in nets.

 

Unbelievable.

 

Did you see yesterday?

 

Yes he's a very good keeper for his age and some of his saves yesterday were also good, but let's not get carried away. He still has a long way to go and alot to learn. For alot of the crosses yesterday, he was flapping like a bird at them.

 

He was also plucking a lot out of the air.  He's bound to be a little nervous when you get thrown in that suddenly.

 

Harper's only going to get worse, Krul can only get better.

[JH]

Krul should be first choice imo, He's only played twice and in both games has been outstanding, it might sound mental but I can honestly see him becoming one of the best keepers in the world.  You can see the difference having a big keeper makes, crosses are not an issue and he's so agile for his size.  We've spent too long with just shot stoppers, the defence will be way more confident with a big lad in nets.

 

Unbelievable.

 

Did you see yesterday?

 

Yes he's a very good keeper for his age and some of his saves yesterday were also good, but let's not get carried away. He still has a long way to go and alot to learn. For alot of the crosses yesterday, he was flapping like a bird at them.

 

He was also plucking a lot out of the air.  He's bound to be a little nervous when you get thrown in that suddenly.

 

Harper's only going to get worse, Krul can only get better.

 

I agree. Doesn't mean we should get carried away though. He's still got things to learn so lets not suddenly think he can be one of the world's best just yet.

[biggs]

Our forward line was piss poor with Shola up there and if Carrols playing regular we need something different beside him so its not predictable target man stuff ,Colo was abysmal tbh how he has played for the Argy national team is beyond me ,we could with a bit more threat have won that game and  it was a relief to see them fight back for a change instead of capitulating like last season ,the football in this division will not be like yesterdays imho but more getting kicked up a height by the opposition cos of who we are and i noticed the ref yesterday didnt keep stopping the game like in the premiership for diving etc but more free flowing but i dont know if that was beer goggles .I wasnt impressed with Shearer slagging Carrol off for not passing the ball to Duffs left foot for that chance that he missed as i thought it was a good ball and duff should have hit the target tbh.