Joey Barton (now retired)

[Dokko]

Losing our best right-mid on a free to fucking QPR has got to be a low point in the clubs history like. Ashley realy is such a diabolical human being.

 

Losing the biggest trouble maker in NUFC history at the same time.

 

 

I think Duncan Ferguson left a fair few years back? Went to Everton of something.

 

You trying to compare drunken to the idiotic things Barton has done? Drunken did nowt on our books.

[Foluwashola]

Baffled by the hero worship and tears shed for someone not fit to lace the boots of a lot of midfielders I've seen play for us in the last 10 or so years.

 

Maybe if Viana smacked a few people, he'd be a legend.

 

Has nothing to do with hero worship.

 

People are merely disappointed to lose an important squad player on a free with seemingly no replacement lined up.

[S.S.R.]

Baffled by the hero worship and tears shed for someone not fit to lace the boots of a lot of midfielders I've seen play for us in the last 10 or so years.

 

Maybe if Viana smacked a few people, he'd be a legend.

 

Has nothing to do with hero worship.

 

People are merely disappointed to lose an important squad player on a free with seemingly no replacement lined up.

 

We've signed about four French midfielders since the start of the year.

[Foluwashola]

Baffled by the hero worship and tears shed for someone not fit to lace the boots of a lot of midfielders I've seen play for us in the last 10 or so years.

 

Maybe if Viana smacked a few people, he'd be a legend.

 

Has nothing to do with hero worship.

 

People are merely disappointed to lose an important squad player on a free with seemingly no replacement lined up.

 

We've signed about four French midfielders since the start of the year.

 

Yet we go into the season with Barton in the starting XI....

[Interpolic]

Howay man, the club couldn't have made him feel more marginalised and unwanted.  Except they could have made him continue to train with the kids over the last couple of weeks.  But they didn't because we needed him as he's a good player.  That's the point here, that we're not treating our best players with any class or respect.  It'll happen to Tiote, Collocini and Ben Arfa one day and there'll still be an element of 'greedy Judas cunt' about it, and the cycle continues but we stand still, or worse go backwards.

 

This no-nonsense, non-negotiable, classless bullshit might work fine with minimum wage workers with no option but to shut up and accept it, but you need a more flexible approach with valued professional footballers and also other football clubs who want to hang on to their assets or at least get a decent fee for them.  If Obertan's meant to be Barton's replacement then it's a fucking joke.

 

Yet mike Ashley paid out a record amount in bonuses to his staff at sports direct, an average £44k for a full time worker in one of the worst periods retail has ever gone through in this country.

 

I thought someone might mention this but it's a different kettle of fish anyway.  Fair enough, he didn't have to give out those bonuses but the business had just made a massive profit.  It was the first positive PR I'd ever seen with regards to working at Sports Direct and the general perception is that they're poorly paid and made to work in fairly shit working conditions.  Anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

 

And that £44k thing is massively misleading, there's no chance a £15k/year worker got £60k last year because the company performed well, so it's more than likely that the vast majority went to executives and management.  It's like saying the average NUFC worker gets £20k/week and applying it to club shop workers.

[Guest thenorthumbrian]

Howay man, the club couldn't have made him feel more marginalised and unwanted.  Except they could have made him continue to train with the kids over the last couple of weeks.  But they didn't because we needed him as he's a good player.  That's the point here, that we're not treating our best players with any class or respect.  It'll happen to Tiote, Collocini and Ben Arfa one day and there'll still be an element of 'greedy Judas c***' about it, and the cycle continues but we stand still, or worse go backwards.

 

This no-nonsense, non-negotiable, classless bullshit might work fine with minimum wage workers with no option but to shut up and accept it, but you need a more flexible approach with valued professional footballers and also other football clubs who want to hang on to their assets or at least get a decent fee for them.  If Obertan's meant to be Barton's replacement then it's a f***ing joke.

 

Yet mike Ashley paid out a record amount in bonuses to his staff at sports direct, an average £44k for a full time worker in one of the worst periods retail has ever gone through in this country.

 

That £44k bonus figure is misleading.

 

The details I'd found are:

 

The bonus is in two stages. The first bonus is 25% of base pay in shares of £1 per share. The first bonus target was underlying EBITDA of £155m in 2009-10 and was achieved in that Year. The first bonus will vest in 2012.

 

The second bonus is 75% of base pay in shares of £1.25 per share. The second stage of the bonus was conditional upon the first bonus target being met in 2009-10, attaining underlying EBITDA of £195 million in 2010-2011, and underlying EBITDA /Net Debt ratio of two or less at the end of 2010-11. All these targets were achieved in the Year.

 

The average salary at Sports Direct is £20,000.

 

So I might be wrong here but by my calculations the average bonus will be about £24,000 in shares over a period of 2 years. Which is a very tidy sum but nowhere near what was quoted in the press.

 

 

 

The staff employed at charva direct total 11,000 employees, only 2,000 of the employees are full time so they will be getting the bonus, not the 9,000 part time staff who get nothing.

Most of the 2000 full time staff are managers.

Hands up who has been conned by a fcb headline ?

[mouldy_uk]

Baffled by the hero worship and tears shed for someone not fit to lace the boots of a lot of midfielders I've seen play for us in the last 10 or so years.

 

Maybe if Viana smacked a few people, he'd be a legend.

 

Agreed, some of the stuff on here and on Twitter is cringe-worthy. He's a decent player but not the legend that some people are making him out to be. A half decent replacement (Yes, I know that's part of the problem), and people would quickly forget about him.

[Conjo]

Just out of curiosity: How are his hands forced? The same way Carrolls hands were forced? Or Nolan?

 

All of them had/have a contract here. They can/could do what ever the fuck they wanted to. I have no bother with them getting the best deals they can, but why try to convince people otherwise? QPR are offering a lucrative long term contract he will never get elsewhere, so he should go for it.

[Interpolic]

Baffled by the hero worship and tears shed for someone not fit to lace the boots of a lot of midfielders I've seen play for us in the last 10 or so years.

 

Maybe if Viana smacked a few people, he'd be a legend.

 

It's about where we're at right now, and we're far weaker if/when he leaves.

[bobbydazzla]

Howay man, the club couldn't have made him feel more marginalised and unwanted.  Except they could have made him continue to train with the kids over the last couple of weeks.  But they didn't because we needed him as he's a good player.  That's the point here, that we're not treating our best players with any class or respect.  It'll happen to Tiote, Collocini and Ben Arfa one day and there'll still be an element of 'greedy Judas c***' about it, and the cycle continues but we stand still, or worse go backwards.

 

This no-nonsense, non-negotiable, classless bullshit might work fine with minimum wage workers with no option but to shut up and accept it, but you need a more flexible approach with valued professional footballers and also other football clubs who want to hang on to their assets or at least get a decent fee for them.  If Obertan's meant to be Barton's replacement then it's a f***ing joke.

 

Yet mike Ashley paid out a record amount in bonuses to his staff at sports direct, an average £44k for a full time worker in one of the worst periods retail has ever gone through in this country.

 

That £44k bonus figure is misleading.

 

The details I'd found are:

 

The bonus is in two stages. The first bonus is 25% of base pay in shares of £1 per share. The first bonus target was underlying EBITDA of £155m in 2009-10 and was achieved in that Year. The first bonus will vest in 2012.

 

The second bonus is 75% of base pay in shares of £1.25 per share. The second stage of the bonus was conditional upon the first bonus target being met in 2009-10, attaining underlying EBITDA of £195 million in 2010-2011, and underlying EBITDA /Net Debt ratio of two or less at the end of 2010-11. All these targets were achieved in the Year.

 

The average salary at Sports Direct is £20,000.

 

So I might be wrong here but by my calculations the average bonus will be about £24,000 in shares over a period of 2 years. Which is a very tidy sum but nowhere near what was quoted in the press.

 

 

 

The staff employed at charva direct total 11,000 employees, only 2,000 of the employees are full time so they will be getting the bonus, not the 9,000 part time staff who get nothing.

Most of the 2000 full time staff are managers.

Hands up who has been conned by a fcb headline ?

 

I'm presuming the average salary figure of £20,000 I'd used in my calculations is for the 2000 full time employees and excludes the part time staff ?

[taxfree]

People complaining about people finding it worrying that we give away one of our most influential players can proper do one. Just give over.

[Guest]

The main thing Barton brought to the team last year was set-pieces up until about February. We now have Cabaye who can do that job even better.

 

Him and Taarabt should be a hoot to watch mind.

[Sifu]

Baffled by the hero worship and tears shed for someone not fit to lace the boots of a lot of midfielders I've seen play for us in the last 10 or so years.

 

Maybe if Viana smacked a few people, he'd be a legend.

 

It's about where we're at right now, and we're far weaker if/when he leaves.

 

I concur.

[Si]

Losing our best right-mid on a free to f***ing QPR has got to be a low point in the clubs history like. Ashley realy is such a diabolical human being.

 

Losing the biggest trouble maker in NUFC history at the same time.

 

 

 

Howay man we've had plenty worse. Bellamy was one of the biggest wind up merchants going in his time with us, just didn't have twitter to slag Shearer off when he was with us.

[Hanshithispantz]

If we had kept Carroll, Enrique and Barton we'd be a CB and a RB from having a great squad. It's fucking depressing to watch the squad get ripped apart with no real intent of ever fixing, and more importantly, improving the damage.

 

You don't have to be a genius to see why people are pissed off about this like.

[AlanSkÃrare]

Mike and Derek are really doing all they can to make me fall out of love here. Everything and everyone I like is booted out or leaving in some way. It's not any shock what has happend today. But losing Hughton (Calderwood/Barron), Carroll, Nolan, Enrique and Barton within the space of nine months - it's not easy.

[Cheshire Mag]

Howay man, the club couldn't have made him feel more marginalised and unwanted.  Except they could have made him continue to train with the kids over the last couple of weeks.  But they didn't because we needed him as he's a good player.  That's the point here, that we're not treating our best players with any class or respect.  It'll happen to Tiote, Collocini and Ben Arfa one day and there'll still be an element of 'greedy Judas c***' about it, and the cycle continues but we stand still, or worse go backwards.

 

This no-nonsense, non-negotiable, classless bullshit might work fine with minimum wage workers with no option but to shut up and accept it, but you need a more flexible approach with valued professional footballers and also other football clubs who want to hang on to their assets or at least get a decent fee for them.  If Obertan's meant to be Barton's replacement then it's a f***ing joke.

 

Yet mike Ashley paid out a record amount in bonuses to his staff at sports direct, an average £44k for a full time worker in one of the worst periods retail has ever gone through in this country.

 

That £44k bonus figure is misleading.

 

The details I'd found are:

 

The bonus is in two stages. The first bonus is 25% of base pay in shares of £1 per share. The first bonus target was underlying EBITDA of £155m in 2009-10 and was achieved in that Year. The first bonus will vest in 2012.

 

The second bonus is 75% of base pay in shares of £1.25 per share. The second stage of the bonus was conditional upon the first bonus target being met in 2009-10, attaining underlying EBITDA of £195 million in 2010-2011, and underlying EBITDA /Net Debt ratio of two or less at the end of 2010-11. All these targets were achieved in the Year.

 

The average salary at Sports Direct is £20,000.

 

So I might be wrong here but by my calculations the average bonus will be about £24,000 in shares over a period of 2 years. Which is a very tidy sum but nowhere near what was quoted in the press.

 

 

 

The post office did something like this afew years back and now the shares have matured, they are worth nothing

[Si]

Howay man, the club couldn't have made him feel more marginalised and unwanted.  Except they could have made him continue to train with the kids over the last couple of weeks.  But they didn't because we needed him as he's a good player.  That's the point here, that we're not treating our best players with any class or respect.  It'll happen to Tiote, Collocini and Ben Arfa one day and there'll still be an element of 'greedy Judas c***' about it, and the cycle continues but we stand still, or worse go backwards.

 

This no-nonsense, non-negotiable, classless bullshit might work fine with minimum wage workers with no option but to shut up and accept it, but you need a more flexible approach with valued professional footballers and also other football clubs who want to hang on to their assets or at least get a decent fee for them.  If Obertan's meant to be Barton's replacement then it's a f***ing joke.

 

Yet mike Ashley paid out a record amount in bonuses to his staff at sports direct, an average £44k for a full time worker in one of the worst periods retail has ever gone through in this country.

 

That £44k bonus figure is misleading.

 

The details I'd found are:

 

The bonus is in two stages. The first bonus is 25% of base pay in shares of £1 per share. The first bonus target was underlying EBITDA of £155m in 2009-10 and was achieved in that Year. The first bonus will vest in 2012.

 

The second bonus is 75% of base pay in shares of £1.25 per share. The second stage of the bonus was conditional upon the first bonus target being met in 2009-10, attaining underlying EBITDA of £195 million in 2010-2011, and underlying EBITDA /Net Debt ratio of two or less at the end of 2010-11. All these targets were achieved in the Year.

 

The average salary at Sports Direct is £20,000.

 

So I might be wrong here but by my calculations the average bonus will be about £24,000 in shares over a period of 2 years. Which is a very tidy sum but nowhere near what was quoted in the press.

 

 

 

The post office did something like this afew years back and now the shares have matured, they are worth nothing

 

And when you say average that's the bloke that's getting two mill and the bloke that's getting 50p combined.

[S.S.R.]

I'm not Mike's biggest fan, but I get the impression a lot of people will criticise the decisions they make whatever they do.

[Ketsbaia]

Joey's character overshadows his playing ability. Whilst good for most of last season, I'm not convinced he'd have been that good this time. We already have a better set piece taker and I see Colo, Tiote, HBA, Cabaye and Jonas as more vital players for us. But I am gutted and what hurts is that I thought we'd seen the worst and a compromise had been reached....then fucking QPR come along. QPR!!! As much as I love the guy, he had the option to stay and stick it out but chose not to. Thought he'd be the one footballer to stand up to the owners, but I guess he's just like the rest. Replace him and we'll cope, although giving him away for free is beyond moronic.

 

Everytime something almost-decent happens to this club, total idiocy always lurks around the corner. At least the press conference will be interesting.

[OzzieMandias]

Security? If he cannot make the multiple millions he's already made last his lifetime then he is a bigger mug than I ever thought possible.

 

 

 

This. It's hard to weep for the uncertain financial future of poor racehorse-owning Joey Barton. I'm extremely good at what I do and get a reasonable wedge for doing it, but it would take me decades to earn what Joey has trousered from just one season at NUFC.

[GM]

I'd genuinely love to come from whatever planet on which this is considered a good move by the club. Another vocal leader, and driving force behind our resurgence being shown the door. Fucking unreal.

 

I think the bit in bold is just about the only level on which I'm bothered about his departure. Where's our much needed nasty streak going to come from without Barton?

[midds]

I'm not Mike's biggest fan, but I get the impression a lot of people will criticise the decisions they make whatever they do.

 

In this instance I'm annoyed about the lack of compromise in the deal. We've got a good player on a good wage (willing to take a pay cut by all accounts) who wants to stay and the club still can't thrash a deal out which suits both parties. I'm not expecting the club to offer him £55k a week for 5 years because that would be lunacy but the contract petulantly being withdrawn and throwing him on the transfer list for nothing has meant the club has lost out again.

[Hanshithispantz]

I'm not Mike's biggest fan, but I get the impression a lot of people will criticise the decisions they make whatever they do.

If he buys a player that improves the side, i'd applaud him. If he gives a first team player away for nothing, i'll call him a cunt.

[Guest bimpy474]

I'm not Mike's biggest fan, but I get the impression a lot of people will criticise the decisions they make whatever they do.

 

This is true but tbf he has brought that all on himself, as Super Dave Osborne used to say "Mike your a putz"