MrRaspberryJam Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Izakaya said: Really? I think I've only heard Karen Carney's punditry a few times and she's managed to completely fuck up her point and trip over her words every time. Plus she speaks like her mouth is full of marbles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Had on a second.... ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Izakaya said: Had on a second.... ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 hours ago, joeyt said: Sounds like you're lumping all women commentators together based on one person on match of the day Like me saying I can't listen to Sam Matterface so therefore I don't like male commentators Well I'm going off the only example I know of as the main commentator, so that's all I can go off. I also categorically said that for the most part the female co-commentators have been great. I think you are just seeing what you want to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Barton is a clown his appearance on the James English podcast was embarrassing. Barton is starting up his own podcast wouldn’t be surprised if this isn’t just some nonsense to whip up a frenzy and traction for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Easy to forget about this after tonight’s game but Barton was on Piers Morgan tonight and unsurprisingly he’s changed his argument from all women shouldn’t be allowed to talk about the men’s game to it being earned on merit. I thought the interview was going well until he invited not one but three extra people on and it just became a shouting match. It’s quite sad too that they invited that mess Pearl Davis on to obviously just spew out controversial nonsense. Barton of course loved her because she’s exactly the type of person he’d have on his own podcast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 15 hours ago, TRon said: That bit I agree with. They can make very decent co-commentators though when they're not trying to sound like the female version of Martin Tyler. I’m the other way - female commentators haven’t really arsed me one bit. I haven’t heard a female co-commentator I’ve liked. I haven’t heard a male one I’ve liked either, though. So there is that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 16 hours ago, gdm said: Barton is a clown his appearance on the James English podcast was embarrassing. Barton is starting up his own podcast wouldn’t be surprised if this isn’t just some nonsense to whip up a frenzy and traction for it so predictable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 12 hours ago, Decky said: Easy to forget about this after tonight’s game but Barton was on Piers Morgan tonight and unsurprisingly he’s changed his argument from all women shouldn’t be allowed to talk about the men’s game to it being earned on merit. I thought the interview was going well until he invited not one but three extra people on and it just became a shouting match. It’s quite sad too that they invited that mess Pearl Davis on to obviously just spew out controversial nonsense. Barton of course loved her because she’s exactly the type of person he’d have on his own podcast. What a car crash Imagine being on a show with Piers Morgan and there being two bigger whoppers than him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Canny funny how he started licking Bianca's arse saying how well she'd done to work herself up the ladder to becoming a respected pundit. But Gabriel Agbonlahor can get a primetime job in front of everone else just cos he played averagely in the Prem Was desperate for him to answer the question about his daughter and if she ever wanted to commentate on men's football should she be allowed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 His argument was all over the place he doesn’t once really give an answer why it’s ok for men that hasn’t played the game yet it’s not ok for woman who have played and that’s coz essentially he’s saying men can read and understand the game better than women wether they’ve played or not. He also massively back tracked from his original tweet. and that Pearl lassie Jesus Chris she’s setting women back about 50 years with her ramblings. She probably doesn’t even believe half the stuff she says but you know give her a platform being controversial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 1 minute ago, gdm said: His argument was all over the place he doesn’t once really give an answer why it’s ok for men that hasn’t played the game yet it’s not ok for woman who have played and that’s coz essentially he’s saying men can read and understand the game better than women wether they’ve played or not. He also massively back tracked from his original tweet. and that Pearl lassie Jesus Chris she’s setting women back about 50 years with her ramblings. She probably doesn’t even believe half the stuff she says but you know give her a platform being controversial Grifting is a legitimate career now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) Joe Cole can barely talk English and has landed a job doing punditry because he was decent at football. Sort that shit out before you determine someone's shit for having a vagina. Edited December 8, 2023 by GEFAFWISP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Only watched half of it so far, but Morgan appeared to go easy on him. He allowed him to dodge the question about male commentators such as Motson or Tyler who had no professional experience yet made very successful careers out of commentating. Barton went off on a tangent and Piers Morgan obviously secretly agrees with him as he didn't pull him up on it like he does with others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I don't understand this idea of "OK, women can be commentators/referees/managers as long as they're there on merit and are really good at what they do" There are fucking awful male pundits, Commentators, refs and managers, we complain about them every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, BlueStar said: I don't understand this idea of "OK, women can be commentators/referees/managers as long as they're there on merit and are really good at what they do" There are fucking awful male pundits, Commentators, refs and managers, we complain about them every week. Exactly..should be able to complain about anyone regardless of gender!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 https://x.com/joey7barton/status/1733092288232911150?s=46&t=VsasybHjLL5SWspjxkYA3w he appears to blaming women for footballers having affairs now the man is unhinged Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 https://x.com/andycantwell/status/1733135450372550904?s=46&t=VsasybHjLL5SWspjxkYA3w oh dear Joey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I can't stand people that talk over each other. It spoils any decent conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Sure Barton was a pundit for 5Live or Talksport during the 2018 World Cup. Given he’s never played at a WC then by his own accord he should never have been pundit for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 hours ago, GEFAFWISP said: Joe Cole can barely talk English and has landed a job doing punditry because he was decent at football. Sort that shit out before you determine someone's shit for having a vagina. I know the fact he’s a right ol COCK-ER-KNEE might annoy some people. But he seems like one of the better pundits, to me? I don’t really care about their accent or how good their vocabulary is. It’s just nice to have some insight and analysis. Of the more recent ones to get into media and TV work. I think he is decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 hours ago, GEFAFWISP said: Joe Cole can barely talk English and has landed a job doing punditry because he was decent at football. Sort that shit out before you determine someone's shit for having a vagina. I like Joe Cole to be honest. Clearly enjoys the game as a viewer like Carragher and takes his job seriously rather than just chatting nonsense for cash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: I know the fact he’s a right ol COCK-ER-KNEE might annoy some people. But he seems like one of the better pundits, to me? I don’t really care about their accent or how good their vocabulary is. It’s just nice to have some insight and analysis. Of the more recent ones to get into media and TV work. I think he is decent. Indeed, and that's a bigger problem than sexual characteristics. Tbh if Given wasn't a massive homer, he'd be pretty shite too, the ex-player stable are all a bit crap really. Edited December 8, 2023 by GEFAFWISP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I hope Barton donates his brain to medical science. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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