cubaricho Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Sounds like Barton was waiting for a last minute contract offer from us judging by his interview. That's what I was trying to get at last night. He just wanted to test the waters and see if we'd balk and offer him an improved contract. Obviously we didn't so off to QPR he went. He honestly looks depressed as fuck in the interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Supposedly mackems offered him a contract on the eve of the Derby, desperation from Steve Bruce didn't work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Sounds like Barton was waiting for a last minute contract offer from us judging by his interview. Of course he was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Sounds like Barton was waiting for a last minute contract offer from us judging by his interview. He must be fucking dense then. He had a good offer, knocked it back and has since been taking potshots at his employers in various ways. Not the best way to get a contract from them is it? Everybody makes mistakes, though, right? Even IF he had a good contract offer from us in Jan and decided to wait, it would have only been fair from the club to offer him another (the same one as in Jan) one considering how outstanding he's been at times last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I think there's a little evidence that Barton's potshots at the club were a bit like Jose's in that it would help his departure by bringing down his fee, in Barton's case nowt! But now it seems he was desperate to stay. In that case he's a complete idiot. He jeopardised his future by coming out with crap on twitter that revealed nothing. He didn't tell us a single thing we didn't know. At least Jose gave us the fact about his contract. Barton's tweets were a waste of time and pretty much sealed his exit. Regardless his relationship with the owners, that is idiotic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyAnth Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I can understand where people are coming from with the board but there was a lot of circumstances involving the players who have have left. Carroll's was an offer we would be mad to refuse and the question of the investment is a whole different debate. I don't think we had any chance of Enrique staying regardless of ambition. Nolan I feel we were right to sell due to what he wanted in a contract, and we all know about Barton. I understand people are upset we have lost Barton, I am too, but I feel people are going way overboard with their evaluations of his time here, and also his abilities as a player. I don't think he deserves the contract QPR have offered him and think they will live to regret it. Losing Barton isn't half as bad as people are making out, so fuck knows what will happen if we don't get a Lb/Striker/Both in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 "hunky dory" "if everyone's ducks had been in a line" I love him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 If he turned down Sunderland to go to QPR, the lad deserves praise and a good reception in two weeks. Going to miss the nutter :-[ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Not really sure about the continued references to his first couple of years here. Yes they were shit, but that's way in the past. Last season he was one of our best players, and was actually voted the best in the Chronicle's unofficial player of the year award. He made a decent start to this season too. That's what we're losing, not the Barton from two/three years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Mackems went for him, turned them down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Not really sure about the continued references to his first couple of years here. Yes they were shit, but that's the past. Last season he was one of our best players, and was actually voted the best in the Chronicle's unofficial player of the year award. That's what we're losing, not the Barton from three years ago. This. People keep talking about how poor he was when he joined, doesn't change the fact he was one of our best players today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Not really sure about the continued references to his first couple of years here. Yes they were shit, but that's way in the past. Last season he was one of our best players, and was actually voted the best in the Chronicle's unofficial player of the year award. He made a decent start to this season too. That's what we're losing, not the Barton from two/three years ago. True. Said that today before, not the player who was in jail, who stupidely fouled Xabi Alonso, who had bust ups with managers, no - the player who was a leader, a great player and a great person to get on with we've lost. It's not what he's not have been for us in the past 4 years, it's what he might have been for us in the next 3 or 4 years here if he had stayed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffers09 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Gutted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 The crux of it for me is quite simply this: Over the last season or two, for me our top performers have been Coloccini, Carroll, Nolan, Barton, Enrique and Tiote. And now two of the six remain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 "hunky dory" "if everyone's ducks had been in a line" I love him. Me too, in a very similar vein as to how I loved Bellamy (and to a degree Robert when he was castigated in the press for speaking out and saying nothing actually wrong). Just a very passionate bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Sounds like Barton was waiting for a last minute contract offer from us judging by his interview. He must be fucking dense then. He had a good offer, knocked it back and has since been taking potshots at his employers in various ways. Not the best way to get a contract from them is it? Everybody makes mistakes, though, right? Even IF he had a good contract offer from us in Jan and decided to wait, it would have only been fair from the club to offer him another (the same one as in Jan) one considering how outstanding he's been at times last season. There was no need for Joey to be so confrontational with the people who pay his wages. All the rubbish his agent was spouting off about top four clubs wanting him was not only bollocks it was in bad taste. You don't talk like that if you are wanting to stay at a club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 The crux of it for me is quite simply this: Over the last season or two, for me our top performers have been Coloccini, Carroll, Nolan, Barton, Enrique and Tiote. And now two of the six remain Thankfully its the two best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyAnth Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Not really sure about the continued references to his first couple of years here. Yes they were s***, but that's the past. Last season he was one of our best players, and was actually voted the best in the Chronicle's unofficial player of the year award. That's what we're losing, not the Barton from three years ago. This. People keep talking about how poor he was when he joined, doesn't change the fact he was one of our best players today. Guess it's personal opinion. Call me an idiot but I honestly don't think he was one of our best players, and definitely don't think he was worth a contract of 60p/w+. Kind of like Nolan in one respect, so many fans classed him as one of our best players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue. It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue. It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there. Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 As much as I like him, I won't feel sorry for him. He'll earn more money in a year than I will in my whole life (certainly, miracles can always happen). Still, absolutely gutted to see him leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Certainly think we'll miss him in the short term. Shame he didn't quickly respond to the comment re 'artists needing a director' that that would have been the manager, the way the interview ended you got the impression the interviewer was implying Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Not really sure about the continued references to his first couple of years here. Yes they were s***, but that's the past. Last season he was one of our best players, and was actually voted the best in the Chronicle's unofficial player of the year award. That's what we're losing, not the Barton from three years ago. This. People keep talking about how poor he was when he joined, doesn't change the fact he was one of our best players today. Guess it's personal opinion. Call me an idiot but I honestly don't think he was one of our best players, and definitely don't think he was worth a contract of 60p/w+. Kind of like Nolan in one respect, so many fans classed him as one of our best players. Spot on. I feel these players have used the club to boost their profiles which has given them delusions of grandeur beyond their worth. Landing at QPR and West Ham might have brought them back down to earth with a bump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Certainly think we'll miss him in the short term. Shame he didn't quickly respond to the comment re 'artists needing a director' that that would have been the manager, the way the interview ended you got the impression the interviewer was implying Ashley. Ashley or Llambias. Most certainly both of them. Pardew did everything in his power to keep Joey from what we've heard. Sadly, his power isn't exactly powerfull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 The crux of it for me is quite simply this: Over the last season or two, for me our top performers have been Coloccini, Carroll, Nolan, Barton, Enrique and Tiote. And now two of the six remain It's certainly a big gamble on Cabaye, Ba and Pieters. I don't think we will replace Barton tbh. Could go either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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