JH Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 He thought that Xisco should get a chance but not Lovenkrands is mental - they're in exactly the same boat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Hughtons treatment of loven this seasons been bad imo he was one of the standout performers last season and to not even bring him of the bench is shocking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I like Lovenkrands a lot arguably my favourite player last year, but the way Hughton has handled him is fantastic in the sense it shows he has a cut throat nature at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I like Lovenkrands a lot arguably my favourite player last year, but the way Hughton has handled him is fantastic in the sense it shows he has a cut throat nature at times. At the same time making Nolan captain and playing him every game shows the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 he is a cut above shola though so why is it shola and not loven coming of the bench? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I like Lovenkrands a lot arguably my favourite player last year, but the way Hughton has handled him is fantastic in the sense it shows he has a cut throat nature at times. At the same time making Nolan captain and playing him every game shows the opposite. In some ways I agree, however, I also think that we don't have the options in Nolans position as we do with Loven's. If HBA was available I'd concur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 It's arguable that Lovenkrands is the only one in his position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Hughtons treatment of loven this seasons been bad imo he was one of the standout performers last season and to not even bring him of the bench is shocking Not good enough for the Premier League though. See also Keegan & David Kelly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 If we knew Lovenkrands wouldn't be up to the Premier League, then why did we give him a 3 year contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Hughtons treatment of loven this seasons been bad imo he was one of the standout performers last season and to not even bring him of the bench is shocking Not good enough for the Premier League though. See also Keegan & David Kelly. Exactly. Lovenkrands being effective hinges on poor defending and us absolutely dominating games. He's invisible outside the 6 yard box, and his prowess in that area is nowhere near strong enough to justify him starting. He's completely obsolete at this level, and the wrong side of 30. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 If we knew Lovenkrands wouldn't be up to the Premier League, then why did we give him a 3 year contract. a) To make sure he signed when we needed him last year. b) As a squad player in the Premier League. c) A Championship standard striker if we'd failed to get promoted last year/go back down this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 If we knew Lovenkrands wouldn't be up to the Premier League, then why did we give him a 3 year contract. a) To make sure he signed when we needed him last year. b) As a squad player in the Premier League. c) A Championship standard striker if we'd failed to get promoted last year/go back down this year. Suppose it doesn't matter too much if he's on low wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Not good enough for the Premier League? And where did this conclusion come from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Probably from the fact that Joe Kinnear's the only manager who believed he was good enough for the PL. And that he hardly set the Championship alight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Not good enough for the Premier League? And where did this conclusion come from? How many Premier League first teams would you put him in out of interest? Blackpool at a push, after that, I'm struggling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 He wouldn't get near any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 He's better than Blackpool's strikers on paper, however they all appear to be overperforming far beyond their actual ability levels. Luke Varney, for example, is actually very shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Not good enough for the Premier League? And where did this conclusion come from? How many Premier League first teams would you put him in out of interest? Blackpool at a push, after that, I'm struggling. I dunno how many, because I've only seen him play about 30 minutes of PL football this season. And don't even mention the relegation season - apart from the fact that I thought he was decent, they were all crap that year - I wouldn't have put Jose in a single PL squad based on 08/09. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Not good enough for the Premier League? And where did this conclusion come from? How many Premier League first teams would you put him in out of interest? Blackpool at a push, after that, I'm struggling. I dunno how many, because I've only seen him play about 30 minutes of PL football this season. And don't even mention the relegation season - apart from the fact that I thought he was decent, they were all crap that year - I wouldn't have put Jose in a single PL squad based on 08/09. seriously ? i still struggle to remember any wingers doing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Loven, Best & Xisco are all below average at best. It is not going to make that much difference who we play out of them 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Loven, Best & Xisco are all below average at best. It is not going to make that much difference who we play out of them 3. This, I don't think there is much difference between the 3 and how you rank them is based on personal perception. I'd personally go for Xisco, Loven and Best in that order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 But you know exactly what Lovenkrands and Best are going to "offer" to the team, the only difference with Xisco is that we've really never seen him have a run in the team, at any level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Hughtons treatment of loven this seasons been bad imo he was one of the standout performers last season and to not even bring him of the bench is shocking Not good enough for the Premier League though. See also Keegan & David Kelly. Oh right, and Ameobi, Best, Xisco and Ranger are? Ok then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Where've I said that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Not good enough for the Premier League? And where did this conclusion come from? How many Premier League first teams would you put him in out of interest? Blackpool at a push, after that, I'm struggling. I dunno how many, because I've only seen him play about 30 minutes of PL football this season. And don't even mention the relegation season - apart from the fact that I thought he was decent, they were all crap that year - I wouldn't have put Jose in a single PL squad based on 08/09. Christ Jonny... seriously ? i still struggle to remember any wingers doing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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