Minhosa Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 We're basically signing the weakest link in our back 5 on a permanent basis. Confirms everything we already knew about the current administration. Why try bettering ourselves when mediocre will suffice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Reality check. As Newcastle have a wage bill that is higher than some Premiership clubs and we have Ashley as an owner we currently shop in the bargain basement/loan department. Simpson has played in the back 4 that has got 14 clean sheets so far. He's costing the club £500k - £750k. Is he good enough for the Championship? Yes. Is he good enough for the Premiership? Probably not but the same goes for most of our team. Would we be able to get our money back on him if we sold him in the future? Easily. Who are these Premiership quality players people think are going to be beating a path to our door? Kilgallon and Beckford turned us down (both supposedly going to Everton in the Summer)! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I like the lad and if it helps us secure promotion then i'm happy with the signing. He does very little wrong out on the pitch and seems to have a good attitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Reality check. As Newcastle have a wage bill that is higher than some Premiership clubs and we have Ashley as an owner we currently shop in the bargain basement/loan department. Simpson has played in the back 4 that has got 14 clean sheets so far. He's costing the club £500k - £750k. Is he good enough for the Championship? Yes. Is he good enough for the Premiership? Probably not but the same goes for most of our team. Would we be able to get our money back on him if we sold him in the future? Easily. Who are these Premiership quality players people think are going to be beating a path to our door? Kilgallon and Beckford turned us down (both supposedly going to Everton in the Summer)! I'd prefer us to sign Simpson than Killgallon TBH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Ambition check. We're en-route back to the premiership and we should be striving to cement the promotion and preparing the squad for mid-table safety, not a battle with relegation as soon as we get back to the promised land. This signing smacks of keeping costs down ahead of planned sale, hence its for Mike's benefit and not the good of the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I like the lad and if it helps us secure promotion then i'm happy with the signing. He does very little wrong out on the pitch and seems to have a good attitude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Ambition check. We're en-route back to the premiership and we should be striving to cement the promotion and preparing the squad for mid-table safety, not a battle with relegation as soon as we get back to the promised land. This signing smacks of keeping costs down ahead of planned sale, hence its for Mike's benefit and not the good of the team. You've made a bit of a logical leap there, just because we're spending cautiously it doesn't mean it isn't 'for the benefit of the team'. Spending massive money on shit players is one of the major reasons we haven't had any success in recent memory. We'd all love to be signing Premiership quality players, but they're just not available to us at the moment, either because they won't come (very likely) or we can't afford them. January is a notoriously hard time to buy anyone decent anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 We should of just got him on loan till the end of the season then had a look at whats out there. Blackburn who are shite & have nee cash manage to carry 3 right backs of imo better than our 2, less potential for growth though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Even if we sign another, better RB after we gain promotion, Simpson at 500-750k is still a good squad signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Ambition check. We're en-route back to the premiership and we should be striving to cement the promotion and preparing the squad for mid-table safety, not a battle with relegation as soon as we get back to the promised land. This signing smacks of keeping costs down ahead of planned sale, hence its for Mike's benefit and not the good of the team. Ambition check is right. We all know if we get promoted we'll be lucky to stay up. The fact that we can't attract the likes of Kilgallon shows our standing. Look what ambition beyond financial means has done to Portsmouth and West Ham. Reality check is that football finances have gone insane. Portsmouth are doomed. West Ham have been saved from being doomed. The new owners admit that buying West Ham doesn't make sense from a business point of view. Paying huge fees and wages to mercenary players has crippled a lot of teams. It is a fact we can no longer compete with 'big' clubs. Man U and Liverpool aren't in good health financially speaking. I'm no fan of Ashley but I'm realistic enough to realise that it's highly unlikely in the current financial climate that any one will be buying the club off him (no matter how much he may want to sell it). The future is mediocre (if we're lucky). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Next season, we will be facing another promotion push, or a relegation battle. People were okay with signing Beckford for £2m if it helps us win promotion, why is it any different securing the signature of a player who, as pointed out above, has been in the back four when we have kept 14 clean sheets. The deal is for £500k, he's a player that can improve so any sell on value will be greater than what we have paid, even if it is selling him to a Championship club or a Premiership struggler. As it stands, we are not resigning Beye, Ryan Taylor is not a good full back, and any other full back who comes into the team will need time to settle and get to know his team mates. Simpson can just slot straight back in alongside familiar faces and we will continue to keep clean sheets. Harewood will sign on loan too, and that will be business finished this transfer window. Forget signing a creative midfielder, because unless we sell Butt or Smith and shift them off the wage bill, no new faces will be coming into central midfield. Barton on his return SHOULD be good enough to put some energy and attacking play into this midfield, at this level. No point in signing a new face when we've got a player coming back from injury on £50k p/w. Danny Simpson will be a good, low risk signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Ambition check. We're en-route back to the premiership and we should be striving to cement the promotion and preparing the squad for mid-table safety, not a battle with relegation as soon as we get back to the promised land. This signing smacks of keeping costs down ahead of planned sale, hence its for Mike's benefit and not the good of the team. Ambition check is right. We all know if we get promoted we'll be lucky to stay up. The fact that we can't attract the likes of Kilgallon shows our standing. Look what ambition beyond financial means has done to Portsmouth and West Ham. Reality check is that football finances have gone insane. Portsmouth are doomed. West Ham have been saved from being doomed. The new owners admit that buying West Ham doesn't make sense from a business point of view. Paying huge fees and wages to mercenary players has crippled a lot of teams. It is a fact we can no longer compete with 'big' clubs. Man U and Liverpool aren't in good health financially speaking. I'm no fan of Ashley but I'm realistic enough to realise that it's highly unlikely in the current financial climate that any one will be buying the club off him (no matter how much he may want to sell it). The future is mediocre (if we're lucky). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca888 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 In hindsight, Simpson, for the price, is a good signing and already has a proven record in the defence of this team this year. I dont even rthink we need Harewood b ecause I think Lovenkrands has proven recently that he is more than capable of scoring goals in this division. I woiuld really like to see more of Nile RANGER up front with Lovenkrands. Carroll and Ameobi can also supplement the atrcking force whilst we dont have many problems in defence (really rate Kadar and Krul if rerquired). Barton could be the key player here, We desperately need his crwative influence in midfield but not out wide but in the middle, even if it means dropping Nolan, especially at home. Promotion ism guaranteed if we play Barton in the middle at home in a 442 and Nolan in the middle supporting the lone striker in a 451 away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Simpson is just what 23 years old? And this is pretty much his first season of regular football and so I imagine he will continue to improve with more experience, especially has he appears to have his head screwed on right. Good move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Best that can be expected from a club which currently is amongst the also-rans. If you have low expectations for the club and its future, you won't be disappointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Does he need a medical considering he's played a match for us two days ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Does he need a medical considering he's played a match for us two days ago? insurance requirement i think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Looks like opinion is split right down the middle here. I'll shove my 10p worth in then. I think Simpson would be a good signing, £500k, I would assume he won't be on top end wage and he's proved himself as a decent enough right back this season, the clean sheet record speaks for itself. If we do achieve promotion at least the lad has had some experience playing there. Granted, he didn't look Premiership class when on loan at Blackburn but how many of Stoke City or Burnley's players are or were 'Premiership class' when they achieved promotion? I think with the right manager and the right guidance he could become a good signing for us. Failing that, I'd be shocked if we couldn't get £1m+ for him re-sale anyway. As someone said above, it's low risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Harewood will be next I reckon. Him and a couple of others on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jeffers09 Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Cant complain would like to see how Ryan Taylor would do with a run in the side tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 It doesn't count when the signings you make in January are exactly the same as the ones in the Summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 It doesn't count when the signings you make in January are exactly the same as the ones in the Summer "It's like having a new player" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 People cry out for bodies with our paper thin squad. He's played the majority of the season and even deputised in CB (although no world-beater) he's proven to show passion in the shirt, fight for every ball, and give it his all. I quite like the player myself and I'd be happy we signed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Don't want him here. If we're not signing the Gerrards, Drogbas and Rooneys of this world, what's the point... Get a grip, people. £500K on what could be a decent (English) squad player next year and will only improve as he gets more experience is a bargain and should not be sniffed at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Don't want him here. If we're not signing the Gerrards, Drogbas and Rooneys of this world, what's the point... Get a grip, people. £500K on what could be a decent (English) squad player next year and will only improve as he gets more experience is a bargain and should not be sniffed at. ................ is what people said about Ryan Taylor last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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