Teasy Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 These new financial rules which state you can only spend what you turnover, well what about a club who wants to expand or build a new stadium, what do they do? That will be considered outside of normal turnover. nessy's right again, doesn't count nor does work on youth facilities, not sure on training ground but assume thats covered too So basically money men will need to expand facilities to increase turnover. Can they buy businesses and add them to turnover? No because it will only include the accounts of the football club itself. let's not forget only counts for clubs in Europe so anyone wanting to get to that position can still do what they want as long as they sort themselves out before playing in Europe. Yeah, though they'd actually have to sort the finances out the season before they play in Europe. Not an easy task for a club with an owner trying to pump massive money in to win things quick. Getting into Europe is what helps balance the books for that kind of club, so if you have to try to balance them before getting in, you then have to look at cutting costs instead. Which means your then less likely to qualify in the first place, as cutting costs invariable means lowering the wage bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 any ideas what we get this season tv money wise ? and what happens next season should we stay up ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 any ideas what we get this season tv money wise ? and what happens next season should we stay up ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8595655.stm Next season's Premier League champions stand to pick up at least £60m in television and prize money, with top-flight clubs guaranteed at least £40m. Each place in the Premier League table is worth around £750,000 with a £13.9m payment to each club and 'facility fees' of £480,000 for each televised match (with a minimum of 10 per club). If we finish mid table, and with the high number of games we have on TV, we should easily get over £50m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 any ideas what we get this season tv money wise ? and what happens next season should we stay up ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8595655.stm Next season's Premier League champions stand to pick up at least £60m in television and prize money, with top-flight clubs guaranteed at least £40m. Each place in the Premier League table is worth around £750,000 with a £13.9m payment to each club and 'facility fees' of £480,000 for each televised match (with a minimum of 10 per club). If we finish mid table, and with the high number of games we have on TV, we should easily get over £50m. Poor old Ashley, with income like that there's no hope for him getting his investment back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 any ideas what we get this season tv money wise ? and what happens next season should we stay up ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8595655.stm Next season's Premier League champions stand to pick up at least £60m in television and prize money, with top-flight clubs guaranteed at least £40m. Each place in the Premier League table is worth around £750,000 with a £13.9m payment to each club and 'facility fees' of £480,000 for each televised match (with a minimum of 10 per club). If we finish mid table, and with the high number of games we have on TV, we should easily get over £50m. Poor old Ashley, with income like that there's no hope for him getting his investment back. Aye add that to the almost £50m profit the club has made in transfer fees since 2006 and things are indeed pretty grim for Mike 'Oliver Twist' Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 any ideas what we get this season tv money wise ? and what happens next season should we stay up ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8595655.stm Next season's Premier League champions stand to pick up at least £60m in television and prize money, with top-flight clubs guaranteed at least £40m. Each place in the Premier League table is worth around £750,000 with a £13.9m payment to each club and 'facility fees' of £480,000 for each televised match (with a minimum of 10 per club). If we finish mid table, and with the high number of games we have on TV, we should easily get over £50m. Poor old Ashley, with income like that there's no hope for him getting his investment back. Aye add that to the almost £50m profit the club has made in transfer fees since 2006 and things are indeed pretty grim for Mike 'Oliver Twist' Ashley. He must have loaned the club £130 million for fun then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Yup, thank God we have no out goings. /lets just wait for the accounts before deciding we're suddenly rolling in it eh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 any ideas what we get this season tv money wise ? and what happens next season should we stay up ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8595655.stm Next season's Premier League champions stand to pick up at least £60m in television and prize money, with top-flight clubs guaranteed at least £40m. Each place in the Premier League table is worth around £750,000 with a £13.9m payment to each club and 'facility fees' of £480,000 for each televised match (with a minimum of 10 per club). If we finish mid table, and with the high number of games we have on TV, we should easily get over £50m. Poor old Ashley, with income like that there's no hope for him getting his investment back. Aye add that to the almost £50m profit the club has made in transfer fees since 2006 and things are indeed pretty grim for Mike 'Oliver Twist' Ashley. He must have loaned the club £130 million for fun then. Its amazing how many times this kind of thing needs to be said isn't it? People seem to see money signs and forget the money that needs to be spent running the club, especially during a promotion season. Also no doubt that "almost £50m" figure includes the Carroll money, which we haven't had the chance to spend yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 any ideas what we get this season tv money wise ? and what happens next season should we stay up ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8595655.stm Next season's Premier League champions stand to pick up at least £60m in television and prize money, with top-flight clubs guaranteed at least £40m. Each place in the Premier League table is worth around £750,000 with a £13.9m payment to each club and 'facility fees' of £480,000 for each televised match (with a minimum of 10 per club). If we finish mid table, and with the high number of games we have on TV, we should easily get over £50m. Poor old Ashley, with income like that there's no hope for him getting his investment back. Aye add that to the almost £50m profit the club has made in transfer fees since 2006 and things are indeed pretty grim for Mike 'Oliver Twist' Ashley. He must have loaned the club £130 million for fun then. Its amazing how many times this kind of thing needs to be said isn't it? People seem to see money signs and forget the money that needs to be spent running the club, especially during a promotion season. Its amazing how often it needs to be pointed out that the future is not the past, and that television money has gone up and outgoings have gone down. Did he need to loan the money? Yes, no one suggested otherwise. Can he get it back? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Mike Ashley sympathisers make me chuckle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 any ideas what we get this season tv money wise ? and what happens next season should we stay up ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8595655.stm Next season's Premier League champions stand to pick up at least £60m in television and prize money, with top-flight clubs guaranteed at least £40m. Each place in the Premier League table is worth around £750,000 with a £13.9m payment to each club and 'facility fees' of £480,000 for each televised match (with a minimum of 10 per club). If we finish mid table, and with the high number of games we have on TV, we should easily get over £50m. Poor old Ashley, with income like that there's no hope for him getting his investment back. Aye add that to the almost £50m profit the club has made in transfer fees since 2006 and things are indeed pretty grim for Mike 'Oliver Twist' Ashley. He must have loaned the club £130 million for fun then. Its amazing how many times this kind of thing needs to be said isn't it? People seem to see money signs and forget the money that needs to be spent running the club, especially during a promotion season. Its amazing how often it needs to be pointed out that the future is not the past, and that television money has gone up and outgoings have gone down. Did he need to loan the money? Yes, no one suggested otherwise. Can he get it back? Yes. Nobody said he couldn't get it back. Just that the previous comments from you and colinmk ignore most of the facts and figures required to come to a sound conclusion on how easy that's going to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Mike Ashley sympathisers make me chuckle. You mistake Ashley sympathisers with people who actually think about the reality of a situation. If you only want to read comments from people who spout hatred for Ashley regardless of the facts then go and find some morons to talk to. I mean I could tell you that I hate a lot of the things Ashley has done and dislike him in general but I doubt you'd listen. Because to you anything but 100% hate for the fat man means I'm a "Mike Ashley sympathiser" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Mike Ashley sympathisers make me chuckle. FFS, have we not moved beyond bollocks like this yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Mike Ashley sympathisers make me chuckle. People who assume that anyone who is capable of stepping back from our situation and viewing it objectively must be an Ashley sympathiser cause me some amusement as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Mike Ashley sympathisers make me chuckle. People who assume that anyone who is capable of stepping back from our situation and viewing it objectively must be an Ashley sympathiser cause me some amusement as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Please allow me to introduce myself I'm a man of wealth and poor taste I've been around for a long, long year Stole many a man's soul and faith And I was 'round when Keegan Had his moment of doubt and pain Made damn sure that Llambias Washed his hands and sealed his fate Pleased to meet you Hope you guess my name But what's puzzling you Is the nature of my game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Please allow me to introduce myself I'm a man of wealth and poor taste I've been around for a long, long year Stole many a man's soul and faith And I was 'round when Keegan Had his moment of doubt and pain Made damn sure that Llambias Washed his hands and sealed his fate Pleased to meet you Hope you guess my name But what's puzzling you Is the nature of my game Nice one What do you sing that to the tune of? Edit: Looks a bit like the Stones song? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Sympathy for the Devil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Please allow me to introduce myself I'm a man of wealth and poor taste I've been around for a long, long year Stole many a man's soul and faith And I was 'round when Keegan Had his moment of doubt and pain Made damn sure that Llambias Washed his hands and sealed his fate Pleased to meet you Hope you guess my name But what's puzzling you Is the nature of my game Brilliant. Mike Ashley sympathisers make me chuckle. You mistake Ashley sympathisers with people who actually think about the reality of a situation. If you only want to read comments from people who spout hatred for Ashley regardless of the facts then go and find some morons to talk to. I mean I could tell you that I hate a lot of the things Ashley has done and dislike him in general but I doubt you'd listen. Because to you anything but 100% hate for the fat man means I'm a "Mike Ashley sympathiser" Enlighten me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Enlighten me. What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Enlighten me. What? "I doubt you'd listen" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 You want me to describe the things Ashley has done that make me dislike him? The whole Keegan debacle, putting the club up for sale at the worst possible times, ignoring fans that only want answers. Wasting our chance to have mega rich owners through sheer big headed small time pig ignorance (his trip to Dubai and the Man City owners enquiry). Causing the disruption to the club that got us relegated. The mans done some totally idiotic and cuntish things and at times I've hated him. Doesn't mean I'm going to ignore reality in any given situation because he's involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 You want me to describe the things Ashley has done that make me dislike him? The whole Keegan debacle, putting the club up for sale at the worst possible times, ignoring fans that only want answers. Wasting our chance to have mega rich owners through sheer big headed small time pig ignorance (his trip to Dubai and the Man City owners enquiry). Causing the disruption to the club that got us relegated. The mans done some totally idiotic and cuntish things and at times I've hated him. And positives? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 You want me to describe the things Ashley has done that make me dislike him? The whole Keegan debacle, putting the club up for sale at the worst possible times, ignoring fans that only want answers. Wasting our chance to have mega rich owners through sheer big headed small time pig ignorance (his trip to Dubai and the Man City owners enquiry). Causing the disruption to the club that got us relegated. The mans done some totally idiotic and cuntish things and at times I've hated him. And positives? Financial stability is the only real positive so far. I'm not even sure I've said anything positive about Ashley in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 To what degree do you think that financial stability was a bi-product of relegation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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