Frazzle Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I thought Williamson did alright in the Arsenal cup game, you've got to take into account the players he was playing with as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I thought Williamson did alright in the Arsenal cup game, you've got to take into account the players he was playing with as well. Yes, but individual errors are individual errors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I thought Williamson did alright in the Arsenal cup game, you've got to take into account the players he was playing with as well. Yes, but individual errors are individual errors. Still though, we used the crap midfield excuse to defend recent defenders. If Williamson has Smith in front of him rather than Tiote he will probably look worse. Williamson's been decent most of the season and seems to have looked worse without Tiote in the team. I dunno if he's a long term solution but I think he's an alright player with decent players around him. A lot of our players seem to look worse with the likes of Smith in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I think he's OK, never said owt less. But I think we can do better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I think he's OK, never said owt less. But I think we can do better. But there's no harm in extending his contract? It's not like we pledge to start him every game till 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I think he's OK, never said owt less. But I think we can do better. But there's no harm in extending his contract? It's not like we pledge to start him every game till 2016 What are you talking about? I didn't mention his contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I think he's OK, never said owt less. But I think we can do better. But there's no harm in extending his contract? It's not like we pledge to start him every game till 2016 What are you talking about? I didn't mention his contract. You mentioned that he has been looking iffy in at least half the Premier League games he has played, so naturally I thought you'd be against awarding a 5 year contract to somebody who is a liability half the time.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I didn't say he was a liability, I said he was OK. I have absolutely no problem with him getting a 5 year contract - providing he's on a relatively low wage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 In which case, I apologise for the confusion ..you were wrong about ANDY C though!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Mike Williamson was an excellent signing and has generally been very good for us since he arrived. Anyone saying otherwise has not been watching him play and has forgotten some of the central defenders we had before him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Wheres this love of Saylor come from, I know absence makes the heart grow fonder but he's s**** at cb, makes loads of mistakes, plus he's thinks he's Beckenbauer. I can't remember Taylor making many (if any) mistakes on the scale of those committed by Colo and Williamson in the last fortnight. Did you take a season off from supporting us last season? Taylor was outstanding before his injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Wheres this love of Saylor come from, I know absence makes the heart grow fonder but he's s**** at cb, makes loads of mistakes, plus he's thinks he's Beckenbauer. I can't remember Taylor making many (if any) mistakes on the scale of those committed by Colo and Williamson in the last fortnight. Did you take a season off from supporting us last season? Taylor was outstanding before his injury. Taylor's made plenty of errors far worse than Williamson and Coloccini. If it's a question of consistency alone, Taylor's the worst CB out of the four of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Wheres this love of Saylor come from, I know absence makes the heart grow fonder but he's s**** at cb, makes loads of mistakes, plus he's thinks he's Beckenbauer. I can't remember Taylor making many (if any) mistakes on the scale of those committed by Colo and Williamson in the last fortnight. Did you take a season off from supporting us last season? Taylor was outstanding before his injury. Taylor's made plenty of errors far worse than Williamson and Coloccini. If it's a question of consistency alone, Taylor's the worst CB out of the four of them. Plenty? Far worse? Sorry, you'll have to be specific, as I don't think you'll see a much worse episode than Colo v Elmander (Pts 1 and 2). Was Taylor not consistent last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Of course he was. Then again, he had 5 seasons to look consistent in the PL - and didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Merse Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I'll reserve final judgement on Taylor until he plays behind Tiote - he may look a really good - I hope he does - its true to say his positional sense was questionable last time in the pl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 The only defence Taylor has is that he's been thrown in with some properly garbage centre halves over the years, and behind some terrible midfields. Doesn't excuse his own lack of progress of course, but I'd be interested to see how he gets on alongside a natural leader and compatriot in Campbell (and with Tiote protecting). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 The only defence Taylor has is that he's been thrown in with some properly garbage centre halves over the years. Doesn't excuse his own lack of progress, but I'd be interested to see how he gets on alongside a natural leader and compatriot in Campbell. Proper garbage, perhaps. Yet most of them have been prefered over Taylor at one point or another. In fact, when you look at everyone who's managed us in Taylor's time, how many have had faith to start the lad regularly when there's been other options? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 The only defence Taylor has is that he's been thrown in with some properly garbage centre halves over the years, and behind some terrible midfields. Doesn't excuse his own lack of progress of course, but I'd be interested to see how he gets on alongside a natural leader and compatriot in Campbell (and with Tiote protecting). Tiote has massively benefited everybody (Colo, Williamson, Nolan in particular). I'd be interested to see how Taylor gets on now. Taylor gets far too much criticism on here in my opinion. I don't particular rate him as anything above a middle/bottom PL centre half, which is pretty much what we can hope for atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I don't get the stick that Taylor gets - people make it out like he is a shit defender when that is far from the case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I don't get the stick that Taylor gets - people make it out like he is a shit defender when that is far from the case Not so long ago people were talking about him as one of England's most promising CBs. I don't think he's world class, but he's a good asset to the squad and probably as good as Williamson TBH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Signed new deal? http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/2924/6/williamson-shuns-spurs-sign-new-newcastle-deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I'd stick Williamson in there again with Saylor/Sol. He's had a rough few games, but he was fantastic the first two months. He's not the only player who's looked pretty shit the last few games (Tiote, Jonas, Colo, Guthrie/Loven/Smith) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 He'll not be playing. If the FA banned Barton for what he did, Williamson will get banned for what he did or the FA will just be a bunch of hypocrites... oh, wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Coloccini and Tiote have had one bad game each recently. The rest have played to their potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Who cares if the FA are hypocrites? I'd rather we had less players banned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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