taxfree Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 In my option people weren't booing him for being crap, people were booing him for delve arou getting fm sent of against Liecester and his overall attitude. If people were boing him for his bad performances then where was the boo's for the rest of the squad? I just think people are fed up with basically our weakest link. That frustration turns to booing, and works as some sort of platform to let the manager know their thoughts on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 At what point does personal pride come into it though? Surely he knows himself that he's out of his depth to such an extent that his own fans ridicule him. At what point does he think "I'm getting rinsed every fucking week here, I'm showing myself up. I'll just look for another club a division lower." I can understand the ego thing of wanting to stay in the PL. I can understand wanting to milk the opportunity for all its worth but come on, he's got to look himself in the mirror and his own pride needs to tell him to move on. I completely agree with this. If I was completely useless at my job my personal pride would make me walk regardless of the wage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Fuck. That. A Premier League team signs me up tomorrow, I'm fucking signing. I'll work my tits off in an attempt not to be a liability, but ultimately I'm going to be a useless sack of shit. It is the responsibility of the manager to pick the team, and there's no way I'm telling him "soz gaffa, I'm shit. I'll sit this one out". Not in a hundred billion years would I be doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Aye, he's probably making 20/30k a week man. He's set for fucking life despite being a lower championship centre back at best, I would do the same, fair play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 At what point does personal pride come into it though? Surely he knows himself that he's out of his depth to such an extent that his own fans ridicule him. At what point does he think "I'm getting rinsed every fucking week here, I'm showing myself up. I'll just look for another club a division lower." I can understand the ego thing of wanting to stay in the PL. I can understand wanting to milk the opportunity for all its worth but come on, he's got to look himself in the mirror and his own pride needs to tell him to move on. I completely agree with this. If I was completely useless at my job my personal pride would make me walk regardless of the wage. Lies. Especially when the wage is 5 digits every week. I'd cling on to that job for dear life and milk every cent out of it for as long as I possibly could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Also most footballers believe they are better than they actually are, it's how they get to being professional footballers to begin with, the arrogance of you are better than anyone else is just a big a reason than anything else. It rings true even for scrubs like Mike Williamson, if you don't believe in yourself then you will find yourself out of the job fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I think he has always been professional, intelligent and likeable off the pitch. Seems weird he just fancies sitting fourth choice and picking up the cheque. That said I think he has become delusional to the extent he thinks he can still offer something as a starter. We should have got rid the year after our promotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I think he has always been professional, intelligent and likeable off the pitch. Seems weird he just fancies sitting fourth choice and picking up the cheque. That said I think he has become delusional to the extent he thinks he can still offer something as a starter. We should have got rid the year after our promotion. Fancies sitting fourth choice and picking up a cheque? I don't think he's really been 'first choice' if everyone is fit near enough since he's been here, yet he's totalled up a silly amount of appearances. With permacrock Taylor in front of him and our history of making good defenders look awful, who's to say he won't play another 20 games this season? (God forbid). Can't blame the lad for sticking round, we so far haven't replaced him well enough or we've had a manager who's a bloody idiot picking him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 One for brummie: HITC Sport understands that the likes of Aston Villa and Leeds United are closely monitoring a man deemed surplus to requirements by the Magpies. http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/28/interest-mounting-in-newcastle-defender-mike-williamson/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 God it would be amazing to see him play for someone else in the premier league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 We might even get on the scoresheet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 A strange chain of events including Mike Ashley buying this club, and us getting relegated has led this man to become a Premier League player. Absolute joke that he made it to this level. No way in hell should other teams in this division be linked with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 A strange chain of events including Mike Ashley buying this club, and us getting relegated has led this man to become a Premier League player. Absolute joke that he made it to this level. No way in hell should other teams in this division be linked with him. Aye, it's like the old reaction theory, "if a butterfly flaps its wings over the winds of Japan, will Mike Williamson end up being the first choice centre-back at your club for years to come?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Aston Villa sell Benteke and with a percentage of his fee they buy Mike Williamson! That would be epic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Villa's worst transfer window ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 TBF, I doubt it's happening. Who are HITC football anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Offer Villa £2million to take Williamson, surely if they have any interest in him, that would guarantee the sale! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 TBF, I doubt it's happening. Who are HITC football anyway? Not sure who they are, but the guy behind that article was Graeme Bailey. Was pretty reliable when he worked for Skysports. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I also find it silly that people lambast players sometimes for "sitting on the bench and picking up a check." Footballers - especially marginal ones like Williamson - more or less have a ten-year window in which to eke out every cent from their skills that they possibly can and then feed their family for the remainder of their lives off that money. If I was in his position, I would never give up a significantly higher wage to go to the Championship just so I could (maybe) start more games. 10~20k a week seems like a lot, but it's really much less than that when you consider that after retirement, the best job this guy is likely to get for the remaining 50~60 years of his life is probably a lower-league manager position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 They can always go back to school or learn a trade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 They can always go back to school or learn a trade. At age 35~40? It's possible, but not easy. You've actually reminded me that this problem is even worse in the UK since footballers don't really have a college degree or any sort of education to fall back on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Come on. Going back to school at 35 isn't easy for millionaire? Of course it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I also find it silly that people lambast players sometimes for "sitting on the bench and picking up a check." Footballers - especially marginal ones like Williamson - more or less have a ten-year window in which to eke out every cent from their skills that they possibly can and then feed their family for the remainder of their lives off that money. If I was in his position, I would never give up a significantly higher wage to go to the Championship just so I could (maybe) start more games. 10~20k a week seems like a lot, but it's really much less than that when you consider that after retirement, the best job this guy is likely to get for the remaining 50~60 years of his life is probably a lower-league manager position. Easy there, Guardianista. Next you'll be blaming Israel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Come on. Going back to school at 35 isn't easy for millionaire? Of course it is. Is starting a new career at age 35 easy when you've spent your entire life within the bubble of the footballing world, have no formal education, and no marketable skills? There's a reason so many athletes go bankrupt despite the massive amount of money they receive during their youth. I'm not saying that they have a hard life relative to other people who have to struggle for any sort of job from day one, but it's not a situation where they have so much money that they can afford to make mistakes and do whatever the fuck they want like a lot of fans imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I also find it silly that people lambast players sometimes for "sitting on the bench and picking up a check." Footballers - especially marginal ones like Williamson - more or less have a ten-year window in which to eke out every cent from their skills that they possibly can and then feed their family for the remainder of their lives off that money. If I was in his position, I would never give up a significantly higher wage to go to the Championship just so I could (maybe) start more games. 10~20k a week seems like a lot, but it's really much less than that when you consider that after retirement, the best job this guy is likely to get for the remaining 50~60 years of his life is probably a lower-league manager position. Wouldn't expect him to take a big pay cut to leave. Having said that he earns more in 1 year than a reasonably well paid normal worker in this area will earn in their life time. In the time he's been here already he's likely been made a millionaire 4 or 5 times over, and that's if we assume he was bankrupt when we brought him in. Shouldn't be difficult to "eke out" enough to live on for the rest of his life from that lot to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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