STM Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Taylor hasn't looked a goal threat at all this season tbh. I was thinking that and i actually think Williamson has looked threatening. Matter of time before Williamson gets his first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I pressed Taylor and Coloccini, but on second thoughts, I would maybe play Taylor and Williamson, with Coloccini as a Defensive Midfielder. Again, same as Taylor at RB, we have no idea whether Coloccini's as DM is waste of time - after a few games we may find he is very poor at it. We also have Guthrie, Barton, Smith and Butt all wanting to play there. Please correct me if I'm wrong but, Steven Taylor captained England Under 21's at Right Back and Coloccini has played Defensive Midfield at both club and international level. Smith is slow, can tackle but doesn't necessarily read the game well or play make, or get goals. Guthrie is slow, can't really tackle but distributes the ball well and can score, and is probably the best play maker out of those mentioned. Butt is just fucked. Barton is injury prone, arrest prone, and disruptive to start with, then he can't tackle or read the game, yeah he can score goals and play make, but I have serious doubts over his fitness levels because of the points mentioned before. Which leaves you with Nolan who is primarily the attacking central midfielder, but he cannot do box to box, he can play make, score and tackle, can't read the game though and talks a good game. I would say that Coloccini is slow, but he can read the game well meaning his pace isn't an issue providing you have pacey players around him. He can play make and distribute the ball well, he probably hasn't got the goal getting ability, but I could be wrong and his tackling is good enough. All in all tackling, reading the game and distributing the ball well are probably the three key skills as a defensive midfielder. Makelele had similar qualities and he was marvellous for Chelsea. Essien is another example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBG Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 S.Taylor Williamson Coloccini Jose This. Still need a little bit more depth imo. Taylor can play acrosss the back four if need be, but we still need more cover in every defensive position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I personally see Colo as an effective player in the Carvalho role. We need to buy at least 1 new CM in the summer and keep Barton fit and we should be ok in that department. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Also I'd be tempted at having another look at Oguchi Onyewu next season if we go up, as I reckon he'd be good foil for Colo. WHAT? The guy was worse than Bramble for us. That's not even an insult Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I'm worried about Colo next season, has been exceptional this season, but that doesn't cover up the fact that he was shocking last year. Depends on what you were looking at. I didn't think he was shocking although he got plenty of flak. Similarly Laurent Robert used to get loads of criticism by TV pundits but that doesn't necessarily mean they were right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I don't even want to think about Williamson and Taylor against premiership players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I don't even want to think about Williamson and Taylor against premiership players. This basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I wouldn't drop Williamson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 We all know he's not particularly quick and he isn't the strongest either. It's about finding a way to adapt your game to the demands of english football. Plenty have done it, very few did it in their first season behind a woeful, woeful midfield. Don't think there's much wrong with his pace tbh. I remember at Villa Park last game of the season a few times he went stride for stride with Agbonlahor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesyJazz Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Colo had a decent start when he first came here imo,but his confidence was knocked by a combination of a pisspoor midfield and a section of our support getting on his back.He's not the finished article though,but he can actually do one thing that our midfielders can't do and that is pass a simple ball forwards! Give our defence a more robust and mobile midfield in front of them and we'll be ok. Now that we have adequate cover in the CB position we may see S Taylor fine tune and raise his game due to the increased competition. What worries me is that one of the top clubs with European football to offer will come along in the summer and put in the type of offer for the duo that financially we would find difficult to knock back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 We all know he's not particularly quick and he isn't the strongest either. It's about finding a way to adapt your game to the demands of english football. Plenty have done it, very few did it in their first season behind a woeful, woeful midfield. Don't think there's much wrong with his pace tbh. I remember at Villa Park last game of the season a few times he went stride for stride with Agbonlahor. He's not the quickest, but I wouldn't call him slow either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 We all know he's not particularly quick and he isn't the strongest either. It's about finding a way to adapt your game to the demands of english football. Plenty have done it, very few did it in their first season behind a woeful, woeful midfield. Don't think there's much wrong with his pace tbh. I remember at Villa Park last game of the season a few times he went stride for stride with Agbonlahor. He's not the quickest, but I wouldn't call him slow either. plenty slower than him richard dunne for example is as slow as any cbs in the prem but one of the best too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Honestly I wouldn't change it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 27, 2010 Share Posted February 27, 2010 Honestly I wouldn't change it. Same here. Put the Geordie Beckenbauer in at right-back when he returns. Williamson has been a very astute signing. Fair play to Hughton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I pressed Taylor and Coloccini, but on second thoughts, I would maybe play Taylor and Williamson, with Coloccini as a Defensive Midfielder. Again, same as Taylor at RB, we have no idea whether Coloccini's as DM is waste of time - after a few games we may find he is very poor at it. We also have Guthrie, Barton, Smith and Butt all wanting to play there. Please correct me if I'm wrong but, Steven Taylor captained England Under 21's at Right Back and Coloccini has played Defensive Midfield at both club and international level. Colo has played right back (and right of a 3 man defence) a canny bit for Argentina too (especially when Zanetti was out of favour). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Honestly I wouldn't change it. Same here. Put the Geordie Beckenbauer in at right-back when he returns. Williamson has been a very astute signing. Fair play to Hughton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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