Yorkie Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Five fucking mediocre strikers, what a waste of time and money. What are you expecting like? £35m is not going to go purely on strikers, and nor should it. If we could pick up another squad filler upfront for a couple of million, plus getting someone mint as well as having Ben Arfa fit... we'd be doing alright iyam. Obviously, it's absolutely imperative that we adequately replace Carroll in the first place before looking for more squad fillers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 We've already got far too many squad fillers. Not enough quality. Man Utd only have three strikers and one squad filler and they fight on four fronts every season. Ben Arfa isn't even a striker anyway. So basically you're advocating having one striker, one playmaker/winger shoved up front and then a shitload of backups who range from decent on their day to downright pointless. Even if they're all on £15k per week that's enough to pay two good ones instead. I just think it's false logic, and typical of the type of 'risk management' we've seen under Ashley - bring in lots of cheap players and just hope some of them increase in value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 David is correct. Somehow, we started the season with 6 or 7 good PL players. How many will we start the next campaign with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Shane Long would be ideal for us if we had a fairground we needed to man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 We've already got far too many squad fillers. Not enough quality. Man Utd only have three strikers and one squad filler and they fight on four fronts every season. Ben Arfa isn't even a striker anyway. So basically you're advocating having one striker, one playmaker/winger shoved up front and then a shitload of backups who range from decent on their day to downright pointless. Even if they're all on £15k per week that's enough to pay two good ones instead. I just think it's false logic, and typical of the type of 'risk management' we've seen under Ashley - bring in lots of cheap players and just hope some of them increase in value. agreed. the squad's not small, it's just full of players who aren't very good - perch, the taylors, campbell, shola, lovenkrands, ranger, smith. even in the first team there's pretty mediocre players like Harper, Williamson and Simpson, but because we have some glaring gaps elsewhere they're not seen as priorities for upgrades. Enrique, Coloccini, Tiote, Ben Arfa are what i'd build the side around. Nolan i'm still unsure about, despite an undoubted contribution this season, and I feel Barton's season has been over-rated by some. Since Carroll left he's only had a couple of good games. basically there's room for improvement in most positions. what we need to be doing is buying players good enough to relegate current first teamers like Jonas, Best etc to our squad fillers, and subsequently getting rid of the current squad fillers. bringing in more back-ups who happen to be slightly better than raylor, loven etc is pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Newcastle-transfer-news-Alan-Pardew-back-in-for-Southampton-winger-Jason-Puncheon-after-losing-out-to-Blackpool-for-his-services-in-January-article731155.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Someone buy him a copy of FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VegasToon Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 CLINT DEMPSEY NEEDS TO BE A MAGPIE! http://www.tynetime.com/2011/05/02/clint-dempsey-is-a-player-newcastle-united-should-be-looking-at-this-summer/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=clint-dempsey-is-a-player-newcastle-united-should-be-looking-at-this-summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Fucking Jason Puncheon. Fuck off man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I'll be Puncheon a hole in the wall if he signs... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Sick of being linked to all these average squad players. 2 or 3 quality players is what we need, not more dross to pad out the dross we already have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PENKAAA Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Sick of being linked to all these average squad players. 2 or 3 quality players is what we need, not more dross to pad out the dross we already have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Sick of being linked to all these average squad players. 2 or 3 quality players is what we need, not more dross to pad out the dross we already have. How often are the papers right though? They only linked us with Tiote after we'd bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Sick of being linked to all these average squad players. 2 or 3 quality players is what we need, not more dross to pad out the dross we already have. How often are the papers right though? They only linked us with Tiote after we'd bid. Exactly !! 99.99% of the stories are made up nonsense, especially so in our case with the way the press treats us....i never can figure out the worry about the rumours, its a bullsh**. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Shane Long is a fucking horrendous striker. not from what i've seen this season, when i've watched reading and him playing for ireland especially last game against uruguay he was outstanding that game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 When's the last time we actually signed someone the press were linking us to at this stage in the season? Answer: never (or maybe Sol Campbell?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Sick of being linked to all these average squad players. 2 or 3 quality players is what we need, not more dross to pad out the dross we already have. How often are the papers right though? They only linked us with Tiote after we'd bid. Exactly !! 99.99% of the stories are made up nonsense, especially so in our case with the way the press treats us....i never can figure out the worry about the rumours, its a bullsh**. Well I'd say some are born with thought we were linked with Puncheon he doesn't look likely to stay at Blackpool and we have a cheap owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Sick of being linked to all these average squad players. 2 or 3 quality players is what we need, not more dross to pad out the dross we already have. How often are the papers right though? They only linked us with Tiote after we'd bid. Exactly !! 99.99% of the stories are made up nonsense, especially so in our case with the way the press treats us....i never can figure out the worry about the rumours, its a bullsh**. Well I'd say some are born with thought we were linked with Puncheon he doesn't look likely to stay at Blackpool and we have a cheap owner. That's exactly what they are though, wild guesses. "Hmm... I need to fabricate a story today to fill my quota -> NUFC probably need a winger -> Ashley is a cheapass -> Pardew used to manage Southampton -> voila, Puncheon!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Sick of being linked to all these average squad players. 2 or 3 quality players is what we need, not more dross to pad out the dross we already have. How often are the papers right though? They only linked us with Tiote after we'd bid. Exactly !! 99.99% of the stories are made up nonsense, especially so in our case with the way the press treats us....i never can figure out the worry about the rumours, its a bullsh**. Well I'd say some are born with thought we were linked with Puncheon he doesn't look likely to stay at Blackpool and we have a cheap owner. That's exactly what they are though, wild guesses. "Hmm... I need to fabricate a story today to fill my quota -> NUFC probably need a winger -> Ashley is a cheapass -> Pardew used to manage Southampton -> voila, Puncheon!" It was more the nonsense bit I was contesting mate. Your beautiful diagram explained my post better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Sick of being linked to all these average squad players. 2 or 3 quality players is what we need, not more dross to pad out the dross we already have. How often are the papers right though? They only linked us with Tiote after we'd bid. Exactly !! 99.99% of the stories are made up nonsense, especially so in our case with the way the press treats us....i never can figure out the worry about the rumours, its a bullsh**. Well I'd say some are born with thought we were linked with Puncheon he doesn't look likely to stay at Blackpool and we have a cheap owner. That's exactly what they are though, wild guesses. "Hmm... I need to fabricate a story today to fill my quota -> NUFC probably need a winger -> Ashley is a cheapass -> Pardew used to manage Southampton -> voila, Puncheon!" It was more the nonsense bit I was contesting mate. Your beautiful diagram explained my post better. It was a near perfect way to explain it, wished i'd put it that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 If I was going to reluctantly take any striker from the Championship it would have to be Danny Graham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 http://www.rtbf.be/sport/football/detail_proto-la-priorite-de-newcastle?id=6040133 Silvio Proto linked again, says we've had scouts watching him lately. Hopefully we've had scouts watching Anderlecht anyway and this is just their press putting two and two together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 If I was going to reluctantly take any striker from the Championship it would have to be Danny Graham. He's a Newcastle lad isn't he? A fairly consistent poacher over the last few years, wouldn't say no if we somehow shift Lovenkrands and loan Ranger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 We've already got far too many squad fillers. Not enough quality. Man Utd only have three strikers and one squad filler and they fight on four fronts every season. Ben Arfa isn't even a striker anyway. So basically you're advocating having one striker, one playmaker/winger shoved up front and then a shitload of backups who range from decent on their day to downright pointless. Even if they're all on £15k per week that's enough to pay two good ones instead. I just think it's false logic, and typical of the type of 'risk management' we've seen under Ashley - bring in lots of cheap players and just hope some of them increase in value. The choice of striker we bring in will say a lot about our ambition or lack of. If after banking £35m we are still looking at strikers like Long and Puncheon to replace Carroll then premier survival is the name of the game for now and as long as Ashley owns the club. Doesn't mean that's how it will pan out though....Pardew has been making noises about a top quality striker being his no 1 priority. Now let's see that backed up with action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Even more tellingly, they have made a bid for Kevin Gameiro of Lorient, one of Europe’s most highly-rated emerging strikers, and have also tabled an offer for Toulouse defender Cheikh M’Bengue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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