Neil Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I've been a massive critic of Lucas but even I have to admit he's improved a fair bit over the last 6 months. Still don't think he's been as great as some make out, mind. He's been very good for 18 months, not 6. Can't agree personally. He was awful when he first joined, has improved to "decent" and delivered some very good performances. Wouldn't say he's been very good consistently, not at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I've been a massive critic of Lucas but even I have to admit he's improved a fair bit over the last 6 months. Still don't think he's been as great as some make out, mind. He's been very good for 18 months, not 6. Can't agree personally. He was awful when he first joined, has improved to "decent" and delivered some very good performances. Wouldn't say he's been very good consistently, not at all. Haddaway, he's been easily their most consistent performer. One of their few that has put in good performances consistently, infact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I've been a massive critic of Lucas but even I have to admit he's improved a fair bit over the last 6 months. Still don't think he's been as great as some make out, mind. He's been very good for 18 months, not 6. Aye, their best cm by some distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I've been a massive critic of Lucas but even I have to admit he's improved a fair bit over the last 6 months. Still don't think he's been as great as some make out, mind. He's been very good for 18 months, not 6. Can't agree personally. He was awful when he first joined, has improved to "decent" and delivered some very good performances. Wouldn't say he's been very good consistently, not at all. To be fair he joined of the back of his first season playing for Gremio, it can't be easy for an 18/19 year old lad with a huge reputation to come to England and settle in straight away in that position. I agree with Sewelly though, last 18 months he's been fantastic. I can't really think of too many better around that does what he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PhilB Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 Lucas was one of our best players in Rafas last season as well, but the team as a whole were shit so it wasn't noticed outside. He was the fans player of the season last year, and may well be again this season, we'll have to wait and see how his injury goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 They will play the massive foetus that is Jay Spearing in CM, assuming his mum lets him out Quite likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 I've been a massive critic of Lucas but even I have to admit he's improved a fair bit over the last 6 months. Still don't think he's been as great as some make out, mind. He's been very good for 18 months, not 6. Can't agree personally. He was awful when he first joined, has improved to "decent" and delivered some very good performances. Wouldn't say he's been very good consistently, not at all. Haddaway, he's been easily their most consistent performer. One of their few that has put in good performances consistently, infact. Honestly, I haven't really seen it, and I'm trying not to be biased. We'll agree to disagree. Not really seen much in him to suggest he's more than a decent player who can sometimes turn in good performances. More generally, Liverpool will not be going far if they're relying on Lucas to be a key player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 6 months would mean his season's over wouldn't it? Massive blow for Liverpool if true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted November 30, 2011 Share Posted November 30, 2011 6 months would mean his season's over wouldn't it? Massive blow for Liverpool if true. Massive blow indeed. Hate to revel in other's misfortune and it probably says a lot about me as a human being that I am elated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I seen stats of Lucas against Man City. He won 11/11 tackles he was involved in and had a successful pass rate of something like 94%. Class player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 When is Gerrard back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 When is Gerrard back? early january then mid march and finally at the start of may. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 The whole season. Ouch. Don't rate Lucas as highly as everyone else, mind you. He's impressed in midfield for Liverpool the same way that Ridgewell/Johnson/Dann impressed in the Brum defence IMO. Part of a a very industrious and defence-minded side with a fantastic (bastard) in Suarez up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Rotten news re Lucas Also, there's finally an article with some actual information about the Suarez-Evra case, including from people who know what they're talking about. In particular, the FA are considering adding a fourth man to the panel with the specialist knowledge to judge the case reasonably, which I'm obviously very pleased about. And this: "The key is the tone in which you say those words," Sebastian Garcia, the South American football writer for Mundo Albiceleste, explains. "It can be extremely friendly to call someone 'negrito' but it can also be very offensive." Consequently, I no longer think the "mate" argument will hold up. He may well be in for it, and not unjustly. At any rate, I really hope the FA do hire an actual expert and base their judgement his/her opinion. If that is what they do, I think it will come down to what context can be determined: "Do you need a white stick there, mate?" vs "Are you fucking blind, you stupid little n*****??" I don't know either way, but if he does cop a hefty ban, I guess he's got no real grounds for complaint if he used a word that can be "very offensive"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 The whole season. Ouch. Don't rate Lucas as highly as everyone else, mind you. He's impressed in midfield for Liverpool the same way that Ridgewell/Johnson/Dann impressed in the Brum defence IMO. Part of a a very industrious and defence-minded side with a fantastic (bastard) in Suarez up front. If only he weren't such a little shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 And could finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Hang on a minute, millions spunked, failure to qualify for Europe, 6th in the table and behind Newcastle...yet Parky's losing? Give over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Better position than they were in when Daglish arrived though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 £120m can do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Still think he's done an Ok job. I think they have a good chance of finishing in the top 4, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Still think he's done an Ok job. I think they have a good chance of finishing in the top 4, unfortunately. Spurs will take that spot. Or Arsenal. Liverpool will trip against weaker sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Which spot? City and Scum plus two more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Which spot? City and Scum plus two more. Aye, added Arsenal there. 4th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Still think it'll be an interesting battle. If Arsenal lose Van Persie for a period longer than a few games they won't get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 4th is ours man, look at the table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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