ponsaelius Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Messi and Guardiola cost: € 0 Ronaldo and Mourinho cost: € 110 million Nice summary of the ideology behind both clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Messi and Guardiola cost: € 0 Ronaldo and Mourinho cost: € 110 million Nice summary of the ideology behind both clubs. bs No it's not. Real just try to buy success and it's utterly failed the last 7 seasons for the amount of money they've spent. Also Real Madrid are technically insolvent, just they get away with murder for the financial mess they are in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GallowgateKev Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Kaizero, Can I just ask why you have my lass as your avatar?? Just a bit freaked out tbh!! Cheers Kev Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Messi and Guardiola cost: € 0 Ronaldo and Mourinho cost: € 110 million Nice summary of the ideology behind both clubs. bs To be fair, Barca's financial problems have come from sheer stupidity in the transfer market. By ideology I mean the core of their team and manager are homegrown, whereas it is quite the opposite for Madrid. I am not talking about finances here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Infact Barca's youth system has been the cause of their financial problems in some ways. Because half of their team over recent years has basically been produced 'for free' they've had a lot of spare cash floating round to blow on marquee names or stupid signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Again most of the debt is still what we were carrying from the Gaspart board (left us with €300m in the red in 2004). Our current debt is €450m. We spunk some money on some dross the past two seasons, mind. And there's Zlatan too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 FC Barcelona (4-3-3) 1 Víctor Valdés 2 Dani Alves 5 Carles Puyol 3 Gerard Piqué 22 Eric Abidal 6 Xavi 16 Sergio Busquets 8 Andrés Iniesta 17 Pedro 10 Lionel Messi 7 David Villa Real Madrid (4-5-1) 1 Iker Casillas 4 Sergio Ramos 3 Pepe 2 Ricardo Carvalho 12 Marcelo 22 Ángel Di María 24 Sami Khedira 23 Mesut Özil 14 Xabi Alonso 7 Cristiano Ronaldo 9 Karim Benzema Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Di Maria isn't even that good ffs. I liken that deal to the Milner to City one - overpriced, overrated, and a player that wasn't really needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Again most of the debt is still what we were carrying from the Gaspart board (left us with €300m in the red in 2004). Our current debt is €450m. We spunk some money on some dross the past two seasons, mind. And there's Zlatan too. Zlatan is still a quality player. He is the SOLE reason for Milan's revival this season. Simply a very good squad peg in a round hole at Barca. Plus he fell out with Pep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Di Maria isn't even that good ffs. I liken that deal to the Milner to City one - overpriced, overrated, and a player that wasn't really needed. He's been quality under Mourinho this season, one of their best performers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 That's why I said "And there's Zlatan". I still consider him a quality player. But we spunk some idiotic money on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Di Maria isn't even that good ffs. I liken that deal to the Milner to City one - overpriced, overrated, and a player that wasn't really needed. He's been good so far this season. Think he has 7 assist already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Di María has been rather meh in his general play, but has had an habit of popping up with some rather important goals for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 That's why I said "And there's Zlatan". I still consider him a quality player. But we spunk some idiotic money on him. Yes but like I said it's sort of because your team (youth development) is so good you feel the need to spend on World Class players. There's no point investing in smart cheap deals of South American players etc because you already have players coming through. I liken it to playing as a big team on FM. You start with a massive budget and an awesome team so I am often just clueless who to buy, so end up spending the entire budget on getting a genuinely World Class player from another team just so it is actually an improvement. Stupid logic, probably, I don't really know how to explain my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Actually we'd have been better off buying true world class players, instead of spending €15m-ish apiece in the likes of Hleb, Gudjohnsen, Keirrison, Cáceres, etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Prefer Benzema up front to Higuian, proper counter attacking team for Madrid... Hate Guardiola and therefore want Madrid to paste them!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Actually we'd have been better off buying true world class players, instead of spending €15m-ish apiece in the likes of Hleb, Gudjohnsen, Keirrison, Cáceres, etc... Fair point. I still think it's a case of spending for spendings sake because you have cash floating around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 FC Barcelona (4-3-3) 1 Víctor Valdés 2 Dani Alves 5 Carles Puyol 3 Gerard Piqué 22 Eric Abidal 6 Xavi 16 Sergio Busquets 8 Andrés Iniesta 17 Pedro 10 Lionel Messi 7 David Villa Real Madrid (4-5-1) 1 Iker Casillas 4 Sergio Ramos 3 Pepe 2 Ricardo Carvalho 12 Marcelo 22 Ángel Di María 24 Sami Khedira 23 Mesut Özil 14 Xabi Alonso 7 Cristiano Ronaldo 9 Karim Benzema Homegrown players in bold. Barcelona 8-1 Real Madrid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 8 KO? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 8 KO? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Apparently Zidane is courting Hazard to Madrid next too. I need Hazard in the Prem, or not in an overcrowded midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Off to the pub! (yes, I didn't get tickets, it's impossible) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 FC Barcelona (4-3-3) 1 Víctor Valdés 2 Dani Alves 5 Carles Puyol 3 Gerard Piqué 22 Eric Abidal 6 Xavi 16 Sergio Busquets 8 Andrés Iniesta 17 Pedro 10 Lionel Messi 7 David Villa Real Madrid (4-5-1) 1 Iker Casillas 4 Sergio Ramos 3 Pepe 2 Ricardo Carvalho 12 Marcelo 22 Ángel Di María 24 Sami Khedira 23 Mesut Özil 14 Xabi Alonso 7 Cristiano Ronaldo 9 Karim Benzema Homegrown players in bold. Barcelona 8-1 Real Madrid. Messi is from Argentina. He was brought through their youth system, but he is not home grown. Homegrown imo implies a local lad. 8-1 in youth products, still, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Well, only Xavi, Valdés, Piqué, Puyol and Busquets are "local" lads. (Puyol was born in northern Catalonia, but I guess he qualifies since it's just Barcelona's backyard ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 He joined when he was like 12 ffs. It's not as if they bought him in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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