dcmk Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Van der Vaart has to be the best & luckiest signing of the season. Finding good value in the market isn't luck. It is skill. I don't know why Chelsea are so scared to change formation when they are looking for a goal. Surely Ramires, Obi, and Essien aren't all entirely necessary when you are dominating the game in the opponent's half. Any two would do a fine job. Manchester United's midfield is atrocious at the moment and I don't see this changing in the short run. They just don't look like a team that will challenge for a title or the Champions League. No they got lucky, because the Bayern munich deal for him fell through. Well Real Madrid knew nothing about it. Neither did he http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1309463/Rafael-van-der-Vaart-admits-Bayern-Munich-didnt-try-sign-him.html Lucky eh? Hmm, different sources saying different things about that. I think I would believe Real Madrid and VDV on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Van der Vaart has to be the best & luckiest signing of the season. Finding good value in the market isn't luck. It is skill. I don't know why Chelsea are so scared to change formation when they are looking for a goal. Surely Ramires, Obi, and Essien aren't all entirely necessary when you are dominating the game in the opponent's half. Any two would do a fine job. Manchester United's midfield is atrocious at the moment and I don't see this changing in the short run. They just don't look like a team that will challenge for a title or the Champions League. No they got very lucky on this one, because the Bayern munich deal for him fell through, and Real Madrid needed to sell. 10M off his price tag in 24 hours is luck. They've done very well out of the deal though, as he was one of Real's best players last season. Even if this was to be true, an assumption which posts below this particular one have thrown into doubt, they were the only club that showed the alacrity and the aggression required to complete the deal in advance of the transfer deadline. A large part of being successful in the market is being alert to any opportunities that arise and quickly taking advantage before they are gone. I'd agree on that. Something this club hasn't done for years. (Woodgate deal was last time we were very astute in the transfer market imo). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Chamakh dives quite a lot. Yes, he was notorious for this throughout his entire career with FCGB. I doubt Wenger is the one to coach it out of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Shearer talks out his arse at times like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Pretty good stat, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Only an Arsenal player could get praised after being a dirty little bastard when everyones talking about extended bans and all sorts for the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Stoke score from a set piece. Who'd a thunk it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Love Stoke lost from a throw-in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 winning looks easy on the tv.....why do we make it look so hard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 how the fuck did Zog outjump Williamson?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Villa v Chelsea has been a horrid game to watch. Under Houiller, Villa going back to what's served them so well. Get everyone behind the ball when the oppo have it, then look to break at speed. Very tough to break down, and Drogba missing makes all of the difference. Can't agree with that at all. We're playing entirely differently. We're keeping the ball a lot better, to start, something we were woeful at under O'Neill. These are early days, but you can definitely see it starting to take hold. I thought we played very well at Spurs, and played very well today in spells as well. Of course, part of the not relying so much on the break thing might be that Agbonlahor, main weapon with his pace, has been out for much of this season so far, so it is less of an option. The results haven't been brilliant, but I'm enjoying watching us far, far more than I did under MON. I say that as one who rarely goes away these days, incidentally, and I'm aware that our hitting on the break game worked much better away from home, but at home the last four years that usually translated to a cluelessness in terms of knowing what to do. Apparently the coaching regime consists of training with the ball - possession, passing, shape - in the mornings and physical work in the afternoon. A few players have said that under MON it was just a couple of hours physical work in the morning, then home at midday - no work with the ball whatsoever. Quite shocking, really. I don't know if the results will ultimately make it worthwhile, and it's not really as simple as "style A is better than style B, end of", but we are starting to play a different style of football. Ironically, our record at home against Chelsea is extremely good, so MON managed to get results in this fixture. Them missing Drogba and Lampard helped, but we were without Agbonlahor, Heskey (yes, I know), Luke Young, Albrighton and Dunne, so it's swings and roundabouts. They still had enough class to hope to win the game. Incidentally, random observation, but Malouda was superb today. That fucker pops up all over the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 how the fuck did Zog outjump Williamson?! Don't think Williamson knew he was there from the looks of it. Need to have another look at it, but don't even think Williamson jumped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Checked, he didn't jump. Just slowly back-pedalled and ball-watched before backing into Perch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Mick McCarthy Fair play, that was funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Pathetic Decision by Clattenberg for the hand-ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Checked, he didn't jump. Just slowly back-pedalled and ball-watched before backing into Perch. Looked like both of them thought each other were going to get it, meaning neither of them did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 if anyone's watching the FLS for whatever reason, whats with the s*** camera angle at Portsmouth? Has administration now meant they've had to cash the gantry in for scrap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 The camera is balanced on a Ford Focus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Villa v Chelsea has been a horrid game to watch. Under Houiller, Villa going back to what's served them so well. Get everyone behind the ball when the oppo have it, then look to break at speed. Very tough to break down, and Drogba missing makes all of the difference. Can't agree with that at all. We're playing entirely differently. We're keeping the ball a lot better, to start, something we were woeful at under O'Neill. These are early days, but you can definitely see it starting to take hold. I thought we played very well at Spurs, and played very well today in spells as well. Of course, part of the not relying so much on the break thing might be that Agbonlahor, main weapon with his pace, has been out for much of this season so far, so it is less of an option. The results haven't been brilliant, but I'm enjoying watching us far, far more than I did under MON. I say that as one who rarely goes away these days, incidentally, and I'm aware that our hitting on the break game worked much better away from home, but at home the last four years that usually translated to a cluelessness in terms of knowing what to do. Apparently the coaching regime consists of training with the ball - possession, passing, shape - in the mornings and physical work in the afternoon. A few players have said that under MON it was just a couple of hours physical work in the morning, then home at midday - no work with the ball whatsoever. Quite shocking, really. I don't know if the results will ultimately make it worthwhile, and it's not really as simple as "style A is better than style B, end of", but we are starting to play a different style of football. Ironically, our record at home against Chelsea is extremely good, so MON managed to get results in this fixture. Them missing Drogba and Lampard helped, but we were without Agbonlahor, Heskey (yes, I know), Luke Young, Albrighton and Dunne, so it's swings and roundabouts. They still had enough class to hope to win the game. Incidentally, random observation, but Malouda was superb today. That f***er pops up all over the place. He was terrific, trying to win the game single-handedly at times. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there's not been a change in style from the last couple of years, but that you look more like you did for the first few months of MON being in charge. A 4-5-1, with two central-midfielders sitting slightly deeper, very well-organized defending and pressing the man with the ball, then looking to break with speed. It's noticeable that Warnock has been far more involved going forward. MON had clearly lost the plot, and Houiller recognized that he had a good squad but had to get them doing the basics right (again) first. They ARE trying to keep the ball better, but still had less than 40% possession at home, in a 0-0 game. You can see that as they get more confidence (and he reinforces the first eleven) they will get more expansive, but I'd still guess that the reason ObiChrisKenobi thought it was a horrible game to watch was that for large parts of the game you're watching a well-drilled defence inviting a not-so-convincing attack onto them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 if anyone's watching the FLS for whatever reason, whats with the s*** camera angle at Portsmouth? Has administration now meant they've had to cash the gantry in for scrap? Looks awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Will that mean Wilshere is banned against us in the Carling Cup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Will that mean Wilshere is banned against us in the Carling Cup? It'll be a 3 match ban, so yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Clem, what a fucking embarrassment he is. Sven wanted nothing to do with him at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Leicester getting Sven is pretty fantastic. Would have taken him in an instant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rey Mysterio Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Anyone think Sven wanted to kick fuck out of that prick Mark Clemmitt there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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