Guest Heneage Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Marseille have done f*** all wrong tbh. Why would you be prepared to loan out a player like that unless you absolutely had to? They were always going to wait to see if someone would pay the relative pittance he was going for. Sometimes words fail me. Every other f***ing post tbh. His post is exactly what's wrong with a lot on here you included. It's always Ashley's fault, you can't see the wood for the trees and always see the pessimism in any transfer situation regarding Newcastle. What a f***ing dimwit you are. Whose fault is it then that we wouldn't pay a ridiculously low fee for a young French international? It's nothing to do with paying fee's. Marseille said to him, go and find a new club. He didn't say I want to leave, they told him to go, so he did everything became agreed, then some other clubs came sniffing around and they got greedy and decided to start moving the goalposts so to speak. The interested parties such as Benfica decided against it when they found out his wage demands, all the while we were still under the idea of a loan for 800k. They started demanding more money claiming more interest when there really wasn't. Rightly or wrongly, I believe rightly we said no because we had a deal in place, and the player was doing it all on his own by refusing to train. I think we were right to hold our position, they wanted an outright purchase, we didn't, and with good reason. He's a fantastic talent no doubt about that I'd love to have him here, but he has undeniable attitude problems, there's nothing stopping him pulling this with us when a bigger club comes in. If come September 1st , we have no one of similar potential or in that position, then I will openly criticise the club for not having contingency plans should this deal collapse. But to make out like we've dithered and made excuses is daft. They've tried to be greedy and we've not budged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I don't know why I'm disappointed. I knew this would happen.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 It's very disappointing if he goes to Germany. Highlights that Mike Ashley is hoping somehow that we'll stay up on the cheap, whilst he rakes in the TV, season ticket and merchandising cash. It's going to be a very long season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Is it not possible he could do the same thing he allegedly did to Benfica, and ask Werder for insane wages to scare them off? I mean, if he really wants to come here that badly, all might not be lost just yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Honest to fucking god. Double gutter, come on here and see "French media: Marseille set to accept..." Depressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 My own personal clutching at straws is that a fair number of our signings have come relatively out of the blue and there's still two weeks left in the window. Admittedly, the quality is bound to be lower, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 And now the apologists enter the fray. Kezman, I admire your optimism but the pessimism on here stems from the years of ineptitude already displayed in previous transfer windows. I see no positives here. Hang the fat one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Marseille have done f*** all wrong tbh. Why would you be prepared to loan out a player like that unless you absolutely had to? They were always going to wait to see if someone would pay the relative pittance he was going for. Sometimes words fail me. Every other f***ing post tbh. His post is exactly what's wrong with a lot on here you included. It's always Ashley's fault, you can't see the wood for the trees and always see the pessimism in any transfer situation regarding Newcastle. What a f***ing dimwit you are. Whose fault is it then that we wouldn't pay a ridiculously low fee for a young French international? It's nothing to do with paying fee's. Marseille said to him, go and find a new club. He didn't say I want to leave, they told him to go, so he did everything became agreed, then some other clubs came sniffing around and they got greedy and decided to start moving the goalposts so to speak. The interested parties such as Benfica decided against it when they found out his wage demands, all the while we were still under the idea of a loan for 800k. They started demanding more money claiming more interest when there really wasn't. Rightly or wrongly, I believe rightly we said no because we had a deal in place, and the player was doing it all on his own by refusing to train. I think we were right to hold our position, they wanted an outright purchase, we didn't, and with good reason. He's a fantastic talent no doubt about that I'd love to have him here, but he has undeniable attitude problems, there's nothing stopping him pulling this with us when a bigger club comes in. If come September 1st , we have no one of similar potential or in that position, then I will openly criticise the club for not having contingency plans should this deal collapse. But to make out like we've dithered and made excuses is daft. They've tried to be greedy and we've not budged. i think you call that transfer negotiations, something all clubs do! if NUFC really wanted the player, they would of made an offer which marseille would want! trying to get him on loan to me showed we weren't totally confident in him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zinaldo1982 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 They clearly want to sell him for 5.7m pounds and now have received an offer of 6.7m so why don't we put up an offer of 6.2m pounds and see what they say with at least 5m pounds now and the rest next year,at least make ben arfa think twice about us really wanting him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 It's depressing in this thread with all of the doom and gloom posts, just have a bit of faith in what other players Chris has up his sleeve... Chris didn't even have Ben Arfa up his sleeve. Marseille found us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I think we were right to hold our position, they wanted an outright purchase, we didn't, and with good reason. He's a fantastic talent no doubt about that I'd love to have him here, but he has undeniable attitude problems, there's nothing stopping him pulling this with us when a bigger club comes in. If come September 1st , we have no one of similar potential or in that position, then I will openly criticise the club for not having contingency plans should this deal collapse. If a bigger club came in for him, do you genuinely believe we'd get less than we paid for him? He would have to have had a good season for them to even be interested. It's false economy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Marseille have done f*** all wrong tbh. Why would you be prepared to loan out a player like that unless you absolutely had to? They were always going to wait to see if someone would pay the relative pittance he was going for. Sometimes words fail me. Every other f***ing post tbh. His post is exactly what's wrong with a lot on here you included. It's always Ashley's fault, you can't see the wood for the trees and always see the pessimism in any transfer situation regarding Newcastle. What a f***ing dimwit you are. Whose fault is it then that we wouldn't pay a ridiculously low fee for a young French international? It's nothing to do with paying fee's. Marseille said to him, go and find a new club. He didn't say I want to leave, they told him to go, so he did everything became agreed, then some other clubs came sniffing around and they got greedy and decided to start moving the goalposts so to speak. The interested parties such as Benfica decided against it when they found out his wage demands, all the while we were still under the idea of a loan for 800k. They started demanding more money claiming more interest when there really wasn't. Rightly or wrongly, I believe rightly we said no because we had a deal in place, and the player was doing it all on his own by refusing to train. I think we were right to hold our position, they wanted an outright purchase, we didn't, and with good reason. He's a fantastic talent no doubt about that I'd love to have him here, but he has undeniable attitude problems, there's nothing stopping him pulling this with us when a bigger club comes in. If come September 1st , we have no one of similar potential or in that position, then I will openly criticise the club for not having contingency plans should this deal collapse. But to make out like we've dithered and made excuses is daft. They've tried to be greedy and we've not budged. Aye, we've dodged that bullet, eh? Well done us. Yay! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Marseille have done f*** all wrong tbh. Why would you be prepared to loan out a player like that unless you absolutely had to? They were always going to wait to see if someone would pay the relative pittance he was going for. Sometimes words fail me. Every other f***ing post tbh. His post is exactly what's wrong with a lot on here you included. It's always Ashley's fault, you can't see the wood for the trees and always see the pessimism in any transfer situation regarding Newcastle. What a f***ing dimwit you are. Whose fault is it then that we wouldn't pay a ridiculously low fee for a young French international? It's nothing to do with paying fee's. Marseille said to him, go and find a new club. He didn't say I want to leave, they told him to go, so he did everything became agreed, then some other clubs came sniffing around and they got greedy and decided to start moving the goalposts so to speak. The interested parties such as Benfica decided against it when they found out his wage demands, all the while we were still under the idea of a loan for 800k. They started demanding more money claiming more interest when there really wasn't. Rightly or wrongly, I believe rightly we said no because we had a deal in place, and the player was doing it all on his own by refusing to train. I think we were right to hold our position, they wanted an outright purchase, we didn't, and with good reason. He's a fantastic talent no doubt about that I'd love to have him here, but he has undeniable attitude problems, there's nothing stopping him pulling this with us when a bigger club comes in. If come September 1st , we have no one of similar potential or in that position, then I will openly criticise the club for not having contingency plans should this deal collapse. But to make out like we've dithered and made excuses is daft. They've tried to be greedy and we've not budged. i think you call that transfer negotiations, something all clubs do! if NUFC really wanted the player, they would of made an offer which marseille would want! trying to get him on loan to me showed we weren't totally confident in him Probably because we werent. Understandably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I reckon CH has a role to play in this HBA would almost certainly take Nolans position making his bumboy surplus, and his decision to give him the captaincy look short sighted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Is it not possible he could do the same thing he allegedly did to Benfica, and ask Werder for insane wages to scare them off? I mean, if he really wants to come here that badly, all might not be lost just yet. That article claims personal terms are agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zinaldo1982 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 They have offered him 3.7m pounds,that must be 300.000 a month so 75.000 a week,i don't think we could pay that unless someone was sold first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 They're fucking celebrating on that bastard forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Is it not possible he could do the same thing he allegedly did to Benfica, and ask Werder for insane wages to scare them off? I mean, if he really wants to come here that badly, all might not be lost just yet. But how long can he wait for us? In the end he cant stay at Marseille and if we dont do something soon he will go somewhere else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Is it not possible he could do the same thing he allegedly did to Benfica, and ask Werder for insane wages to scare them off? I mean, if he really wants to come here that badly, all might not be lost just yet. That article claims personal terms are agreed. Ah, didn't read it tbh. That's a bit gutting then, to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 They clearly want to sell him for 5.7m pounds and now have received an offer of 6.7m so why don't we put up an offer of 6.2m pounds and see what they say with at least 5m pounds now and the rest next year,at least make ben arfa think twice about us really wanting him. There's also the wage thing now. We might have matched what he was on, (€220k a month...around £45k a week) but £72k a week I fear's blown us out of the water if the figures are true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Wouldn't surprise me if Ashley tables and new offer tomorrow, £2m plus Leon Best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 My own personal clutching at straws is that a fair number of our signings have come relatively out of the blue and there's still two weeks left in the window. Admittedly, the quality is bound to be lower, though. Premiership signings tend to be more difficult to keep low key Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Wouldn't surprise me if Ashley tables and new offer tomorrow, £2m plus Leon Best. chris hughton won't be happy with that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 They clearly want to sell him for 5.7m pounds and now have received an offer of 6.7m so why don't we put up an offer of 6.2m pounds and see what they say with at least 5m pounds now and the rest next year,at least make ben arfa think twice about us really wanting him. we didn't offer anywhere near £5.7m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Marseille have done f*** all wrong tbh. Why would you be prepared to loan out a player like that unless you absolutely had to? They were always going to wait to see if someone would pay the relative pittance he was going for. Sometimes words fail me. Every other f***ing post tbh. His post is exactly what's wrong with a lot on here you included. It's always Ashley's fault, you can't see the wood for the trees and always see the pessimism in any transfer situation regarding Newcastle. What a f***ing dimwit you are. Whose fault is it then that we wouldn't pay a ridiculously low fee for a young French international? It's nothing to do with paying fee's. Marseille said to him, go and find a new club. He didn't say I want to leave, they told him to go, so he did everything became agreed, then some other clubs came sniffing around and they got greedy and decided to start moving the goalposts so to speak. The interested parties such as Benfica decided against it when they found out his wage demands, all the while we were still under the idea of a loan for 800k. They started demanding more money claiming more interest when there really wasn't. Rightly or wrongly, I believe rightly we said no because we had a deal in place, and the player was doing it all on his own by refusing to train. I think we were right to hold our position, they wanted an outright purchase, we didn't, and with good reason. He's a fantastic talent no doubt about that I'd love to have him here, but he has undeniable attitude problems, there's nothing stopping him pulling this with us when a bigger club comes in. If come September 1st , we have no one of similar potential or in that position, then I will openly criticise the club for not having contingency plans should this deal collapse. But to make out like we've dithered and made excuses is daft. They've tried to be greedy and we've not budged. Trying to get him on loan to me showed we weren't totally confident in him With good reason, too. Given his record of trouble at previous clubs, it would have been madness to try and buy him. Marseilles haven't exactly been stampeded with offers - most clubs were steering well clear. I've never been convinced that this move would work out, so I'm not too bothered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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