Guest neesy111 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 No. But we'd possibly have finished 1st in 2002 if it had been. fuck off man if bellamy hadn't got injured as well, they this would defo be the case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Define balance, in this case. workrate and style of play; solano was much more responsible and worked harder without the ball...he was also much more "south american" in terms of keeping possession - he didn't lose it a lot in stupid places robert was very direct but didn't give a fuck about the team (in the way he played)...he got the ball and attacked, the rest of the midfield and defence covered for him a lot due to that...he was also prone to try and take people on in the wrong areas so to speak and got caught a lot, made up for it by scoring and providing plenty though, his end product was superb i'm not saying i'd rather have 2 solano's, i'm saying the balance of them was right given the type of player they were 2 wingers like robert in the same team wouldn't have worked anyways, tell me (and the others who disagree) why i'm wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest je85 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 What about a team full of James Milners? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Don't see how. Robert was better, way better. Bobby certainly knew it. he also knew the importance of balance in a team, you clearly don't is that why bobby sold solano then Robson: "We've bought young Ambrose, one of the finest young players in the country at the time, and he's ready. I see him in training every day and he is for the future. "We bought Bowyer at the same time. We can also play Kieron Dyer in that position. It's a good deal for both clubs." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Define balance, in this case. workrate and style of play; solano was much more responsible and worked harder without the ball...he was also much more "south american" in terms of keeping possession - he didn't lose it a lot in stupid places robert was very direct but didn't give a f*** about the team (in the way he played)...he got the ball and attacked, the rest of the midfield and defence covered for him a lot due to that...he was also prone to try and take people on in the wrong areas so to speak and got caught a lot, made up for it by scoring and providing plenty though, his end product was superb i'm not saying i'd rather have 2 solano's, i'm saying the balance of them was right given the type of player they were 2 wingers like robert in the same team wouldn't have worked anyways, tell me (and the others who disagree) why i'm wrong Solano was never a workhorse. He was ineffective away from home and that's one of the reasons our away from didn't quite stand up to that fantastic record at S James'. 2002-03 is an excellent example of away form spoiling the party, so to speak. Let's not forget that we accumulated 71 points the season beforehand, teams have won it with around 75. You put an identical player to Robert on the RW and you have a counter-attacking colossus, teams wouldn't have been able to deal with the pace and directness. Shearer would have scored 40. If Bobby had the chance, he'd have two Roberts on the wings, every single day of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Solano was never a workhorse. He was ineffective away from home and that's one of the reasons our away from didn't quite stand up to that fantastic record at S James'. 2002-03 is an excellent example of away form spoiling the party, so to speak. Let's not forget that we accumulated 71 points the season beforehand, teams have won it with around 75. You put an identical player to Robert on the RW and you have a counter-attacking colossus, teams wouldn't have been able to deal with the pace and directness. Shearer would have scored 40. If Bobby had the chance, he'd have two Roberts on the wings, every single day of the week. i never said he was, i said he worked harder and was more responsible than robert, which is true hypothetical nonsense man, 2 roberts (which is what we're talking about) would have meant far too much strain on the CM's & DF's changing the balance of every game that was played i like that you like robert, i did too, but there isn't a team since the PL began that won the league without at least one responsible/hard working winger that i know of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Define balance, in this case. workrate and style of play; solano was much more responsible and worked harder without the ball...he was also much more "south american" in terms of keeping possession - he didn't lose it a lot in stupid places robert was very direct but didn't give a f*** about the team (in the way he played)...he got the ball and attacked, the rest of the midfield and defence covered for him a lot due to that...he was also prone to try and take people on in the wrong areas so to speak and got caught a lot, made up for it by scoring and providing plenty though, his end product was superb i'm not saying i'd rather have 2 solano's, i'm saying the balance of them was right given the type of player they were 2 wingers like robert in the same team wouldn't have worked anyways, tell me (and the others who disagree) why i'm wrong Solano was never a workhorse. He was ineffective away from home and that's one of the reasons our away from didn't quite stand up to that fantastic record at S James'. 2002-03 is an excellent example of away form spoiling the party, so to speak. Let's not forget that we accumulated 71 points the season beforehand, teams have won it with around 75. You put an identical player to Robert on the RW and you have a counter-attacking colossus, teams wouldn't have been able to deal with the pace and directness. Shearer would have scored 40. If Bobby had the chance, he'd have two Roberts on the wings, every single day of the week. This bobby always defended and protected his key players, these we're bellamy, dyer, robert and shearer. when these we're playing and we're on form, we could of beaten any team on our day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 This bobby always defended and protected his key players, these we're bellamy, dyer, robert and shearer. when these we're playing and we're on form, we could of beaten any team on our day what are you on about? having solano in the team did exactly that man...he was a winger willing to defend more than robert (a lot more) and thus having 3 men in midfield being protective allowed robert the freedom to get forward as he did selling solano to replace with ambrose / bowyer / dyer suggests he didn't think a team of 2 roberts on the wing was the way to go, or he'd have done it instead of using more responsible players there...no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 when these we're playing and we're on form, we could of beaten any team on our day wow that's a hell of sentence! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hughesy Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Solano was a completely different type of player to Robert. Yes, Robert was more direct and quicker and 'could' have allowed us to play an even more counter attacking game away from home, but Solano, as has been pointed, worked harder and was a superior player to Robert in terms of his tactical awareness and passing ability and the way he linked up with the central midfielders. Solano was at the hub of a hell of a lot of our good work - he pretty much matched Robert for end product (Solano scored 7 goals to Robert's 8 and made 11 assists to Robert's 16) and I would say contributed a whole lot more to the general effectiveness of our team. To be honest, they were both great players and I miss them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Solano was a completely different type of player to Robert. Yes, Robert was more direct and quicker and 'could' have allowed us to play an even more counter attacking game away from home, but Solano, as has been pointed, worked harder and was a superior player to Robert in terms of his tactical awareness and passing ability and the way he linked up with the central midfielders. Solano was at the hub of a hell of a lot of our good work - he pretty much matched Robert for end product (Solano scored 7 goals to Robert's 8 and made 11 assists to Robert's 16) and I would say contributed a whole lot more to the general effectiveness of our team. To be honest, they were both great players and I miss them. just what i've been saying, not sure what Ronaldo and neesy are on about tbh...no one's saying Robert was a bad player or anything but you simply couldn't carry 2 x roberts in your team, it'd have been a bloodbath against anyone half decent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Its a shame we were so stuck in the 4-4-2 when we had Robert. He would have been absolutely brilliant in a modern offensive winger in a 4-3-3 / 4-2-3-1 formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 The days when we had Shearer, Solano & Robert standing over a free-kick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Its a shame we were so stuck in the 4-4-2 when we had Robert. He would have been absolutely brilliant in a modern offensive winger in a 4-3-3 / 4-2-3-1 formation agree robert-shearer-bellamy as a front three would have been awesome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 From May: "I have demonstrated this season what I can offer at the top level. "To have a chance to play in England would be wonderful but the sporting project is more interesting to me than any sums of money." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 From May: "I have demonstrated this season what I can offer at the top level. "To have a chance to play in England would be wonderful but the sporting project is more interesting to me than any sums of money." Clearly we're gonna be taken over by some rich Arabs soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 In Robert and Solano, I think we had the best and most potent pair of wingers during that time (from 2001-2004) in Europe. They are both massive misses in terms of the quality they brought to the side. Robert took a lot of stick during his time here, but the lad was a genuis. Never seen a better crosser of a football and that includes Beckham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 I'm skipping from page 44...anything happened? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 when these we're playing and we're on form, we could of beaten any team on our day wow that's a hell of sentence! Neesy actually types in Swahili and then pops into a translator before he throws it up on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Yep, 25 more pages for your reading enjoyment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 I'm skipping from page 44...anything happened? Solano and Robert were quite good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 I'm skipping from page 44...anything happened? Just what's been in the papers since really. President of Marseille says they've accepted a 800k Euro loan deal from us and we're supposed to be meeting them today, he said the deal should be done by Tuesday or Wednesday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Just to say again, will be class if this comes off. Can't remember last time we actually made an exciting signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Just to say again, will be class if this comes off. Can't remember last time we actually made an exciting signing. Simpson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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