Guest neesy111 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 He should never play for Newcastle again. Biggest fraud since Paul Kitson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I'm actually with Ronaldo somewhat on this one. Only games he seems worthy of our shirts in the last 12 months or so has been against the top clubs. There's no point in having him when we have to controll games as he causes more trouble than help us out offensively. His pathetic attempt of a shot with his left that he fluffed completely was enough for me from him today. I'd forgotten about that shot. He shouldn't be taking shots at goal. Why is Cabaye playing deep and making fouls in our half while Tiote is taking daft shots in the opposition penalty area? Pardew's tactical masterstroke...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 He shouldn't be taking shots at goal. Why is Cabaye playing deep and making fouls in our half while Tiote is taking daft shots in the opposition penalty area? I don't know why Cabaye is behind Tiote, it makes no sense on any level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 He shouldn't be taking shots at goal. Why is Cabaye playing deep and making fouls in our half while Tiote is taking daft shots in the opposition penalty area? I don't know why Cabaye is behind Tiote, it makes no sense on any level. You do know why.....our manager the genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Nah, he's f***ing rubbish like. I cannot stand Pardew at all, but I don't believe for one second that Pardew tells Tiote to go out there and do anything that results in him consistently misplacing passes (especially high up the field when he's the last man) and try to Cruyff turn three players on the edge of his own box. Everything else can be accounted to management, and I agree that he's being misused, but I still think he's a fundamentally stupid player. Yet he still produces some of our better long range passes and is a better crosser of the ball than Jonas. He's not the brightest spark but he needs to keep it simple and he'll be fine. Again, a management issue for me. He does what now? He's better a crosser than Jonas? Most people are, that's not in any way a positive attribute, it just means that he hasn't put in 99.9% horrific crosses for nigh on 4 years. Tiote is a good all round player. He's quick, aggressive, good in the air, can hold the ball under pressure and can pass. His biggest problem is his ego, where he starts imagining himself to be Glenn Hoddle. For me, a strong manager would sort that out. It's like Eric Cantona under Howard Wilkinson vs Eric Cantona under Alex Ferguson. I think we'll just have to disagree mate, I honestly think he's none of those things. That's okay, I've seen fans on here wishing we had Kevin Nolan back so not really surprised. One opinion doesn't equal another. You can't really discredit my opinion with a statement that doesn't apply to me. I didn't, I just pointed out that people see things differently from their own limited perspective. Haha. Areet then Morpheous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I hope to never see this prick wear the shirt again. He gives the ball away so fucking often, I couldn't give a shit about the 'battles' he wins or his 'presence'. Fuck off back to the Dutch league where you might actually appear to be slightly useful. This is not knee jerk, btw. I've been saying this for a good three or four months now - the bloke is a fucking dickhead and a liability. Get him out before he costs us any more goals or points. He's just shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I'm actually with Ronaldo somewhat on this one. Only games he seems worthy of our shirts in the last 12 months or so has been against the top clubs. There's no point in having him when we have to controll games as he causes more trouble than help us out offensively. His pathetic attempt of a shot with his left that he fluffed completely was enough for me from him today. I'd forgotten about that shot. He shouldn't be taking shots at goal. Why is Cabaye playing deep and making fouls in our half while Tiote is taking daft shots in the opposition penalty area? Cabaye is clearly the much better attacking player but he had an equally bad attempt It reminds me a bit of the Parker/Emre dilemma we had, only this one is a lot easier to work out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 What's happened is that Pardew, by his own admission, has attempted to turn him into Essien. :lol: Jesus fucking Christ man, our manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Why in the fuck is he on the ball so much? Get in people's faces, win tackles, give it to someone more capable. Rocket science. Because Pardew wants Cabaye playing at centre half to knock balls over the top for Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I'm actually with Ronaldo somewhat on this one. Only games he seems worthy of our shirts in the last 12 months or so has been against the top clubs. There's no point in having him when we have to controll games as he causes more trouble than help us out offensively. His pathetic attempt of a shot with his left that he fluffed completely was enough for me from him today. I'd forgotten about that shot. We've been saying for ages he should be instructed not to shoot, I'd go one further and fine him. That would include a modicum of analysis on our attacking game though and Pardew's not interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Jesus, I didn't even think he was that bad yesterday... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Jesus, I didn't even think he was that bad yesterday... Same. He's on the ball far too much for my liking and his limitations show as a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I thought he was absolutely garbage. We seemed to lose the ball fucking loads when he went anywhere near it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I thought he played well when tackling back and keeping it simple, but was on the ball too much and when he was on the ball slowed us down a lot by going backwards and sideways far too often when a quick incisive pass forward seemed to be on. A few times we were on the edge of their area on the left only to go right back to Taylor and then Debuchy via Tiote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Too present on the ball, not present enough off it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 The same people always seem to view performance as okay that others always view as shit. It must be a perspective thing because I can't fathom how anyone can describe his performances as anything other than really bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 He's been a little turd for a long time, probably even as far back as that 3 - 0 home win against Man Utd. He's at his best sitting deep, winning the ball and giving it away with a simple pass. When he holds it too long or ends up further up the pitch he gets found out. He can't shoot for shit (the 4th against Arsenal was a fluke) and he can't pass long either. He should never be ahead of Cabaye too. If we play him to his strengths and don't invite him in to positions he is less effective in he'd look better for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Seeing him further up the pitch than Cabaye really baffles me. Cabaye is wasted that far back and Tiote is ineffective that far up. We can all see this yet the manager can't. What the hell is going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 It's a bit like when Roeder tried to use Scott Parker as his attacking/driving midfielder and sit Emre really deep. Infuriating and pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Tiote wants to press and Cabaye want too much time on the ball to make the pass and/or doesn't trust Tiote as the last man is how I read it. I've said a million times on here that they don't compliment each other at all and frankly the situation is getting worse. We do need replacements for several first teamers in the summer and he's one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Tiote wants to press and Cabaye want too much time on the ball to make the pass and/or doesn't trust Tiote as the last man is how I read it. I've said a million times on here that they don't compliment each other at all and frankly the situation is getting worse. We do need replacements for several first teamers in the summer and he's one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Tiote wants to press and Cabaye want too much time on the ball to make the pass and/or doesn't trust Tiote as the last man is how I read it. I've said a million times on here that they don't compliment each other at all and frankly the situation is getting worse. We do need replacements for several first teamers in the summer and he's one of them. I'd like to see the same squad working with a different manager before jettisoning anyone thanks. Wayne Routledge looks a different player under Laudrup at Swansea, I have no doubt most of our current players will start looking like superstars as soon as they leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 WR doesn't look much different to me. He always had it in him and absolutely lit it up for us against poor opposition. Always looked more of a 4-3-3 player than a working wide man in a rigid 4-4-2, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Wayne Routledge was good, like, just limited. Our squad is crying out for players like him at the moment. No idea why we got rid of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Regardless, the point still stands. I don't want us selling players while Pardew is the manager, since I don't rate his ability to get them to play anything like to their potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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