Kanj Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Good point - Would we better off playing Perch or Anita then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Good point - Would we better off playing Perch or Anita then? Or even Jonas really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 He's being asked to do too much, Pardews comments about him becoming an Essien type player point towards this. Technically, he isn't bad, he just needs to keep it simple much more, stick to the basics and be a water carrier for the more gifted in the team. thing is if people want cabaye to play further forward then tiote (if he plays) will get more of the ball and to keep it simple drags everyone towards him. i don't think tiote's got worse as much as he's been sussed. If we have a 3 man midfield then surely it will involve either Cabaye or Sissoko playing closer to Tiote. With one of those beside him, 2 good ball playing FBs and decent/good ball playing CB behind him (Colo/MYM) he has options to lay it off quickly. For what he is, and what he can be used for, he's gone backwards somewhat. So have a quite a few other players this season. He shouldn't be an automatic choice. It's horses for courses. He's decent enough, just needs to get his mind right and have clearer instructions as to what to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I think Tiote is struggling for the same reason Anita has been lately - lack of options when he's on the ball. He'll always try hold on to it rather than just hoof it so the chances of him being caught in possession increase. The lack of off-the-ball movement is probably the most glaring deficiency in our team at the moment, which is why it's a little worrying to hear Pardew say he was going to spend the extra time in training this work working on the team's shape. I would have them playing Keegan-style one touch 5-a-sides several days every week, get to know each other properly as players again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I think Tiote is struggling for the same reason Anita has been lately - lack of options when he's on the ball. He'll always try hold on to it rather than just hoof it so the chances of him being caught in possession increase. The lack of off-the-ball movement is probably the most glaring deficiency in our team at the moment, which is why it's a little worrying to hear Pardew say he was going to spend the extra time in training this work working on the team's shape. I would have them playing Keegan-style one touch 5-a-sides several days every week, get to know each other properly as players again. This. We are becoming a rarity in our static appearance. I watch quite a bit of football from all over Europe. There are teams in Sweden moving about better than us. It's as if we have forgotten about the basics of attacking. Sissoko, Marveaux and Ben Arfa are moving when they're on the ball. Debuchy ploughs is channel. Nothing else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Will be furious if Tiote walks into the side again on saturday. Been beyond shit all season and has done nothing to warrant a place in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Will be furious if Tiote walks into the side again on saturday. Been beyond shit all season and has done nothing to warrant a place in the team. Not many have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Would rather have Perch in the side atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 We have seen time and time again that Tiote coming back from injuy/suspension is a bit shakey in his first few appearances. On form he's a much better player than Perch could ever hope to be. For that reason I'd persist with Cheick for the run in personally. As for his role in the formation; we've been saying he needs to keep it stupid simple for months now. I'm not a Pardew hater, but I do think he's criminally misusing Tiote if he thinks he should playing in some playmaker capacity. He's brilliant if he just keeps to the basics of shielding the back four, winning the ball and pass it on to the likes of Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Marveaux and Sissoko. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 If he acts primarily as a shield for the defence, he's awesome. Seeing him fling a wild boot for an attempt at a shot is downright depressing, shouldn't be anywhere near close enough to their area for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 If he acts primarily as a shield for the defence, he's awesome. Seeing him fling a wild boot for an attempt at a shot is downright depressing, shouldn't be anywhere near close enough to their area for that. Exactly this. Moving left to right, snubbing things out, breaking things up and then giving it with short, simple passes. Through the formation, tactics and coaching he seems to have been coached out of what made him good in the first place to the extent that my heart now sinks when I see him on the team sheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 He's been shite all season and yet as soon as he recovers from an injury he's straight back into the team. I'd play Bigi over Tioté. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I'll be ecstatic when this idiot and Jonas leave NE for good. Then we'll be making progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Fucking shit yet again. Sick to death of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I can't stand him and his lack of brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Should never start a game for us again. Hopefully some clubs still think he's good and may actually pay a fee for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Ferguson wanted him last summer for £20m. Or so someone on here said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 He got shitter as soon as he got that whopping big pay rise. That is what can happen when you get folk from the 3rd World or Gatehead, a few quid in the back burner and they lose their edge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 He got shitter as soon as he got that whopping big pay rise. That is what can happen when you get folk from the 3rd World or Gatehead, a few quid in the back burner and they lose their edge. Just about every player has gone backwards, are they are from the 3rd world? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Never thought after the 10/11 season that I would despise Tiote like I do now. He's went backwards so much as a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 He got shitter as soon as he got that whopping big pay rise. That is what can happen when you get folk from the 3rd World or Gatehead, a few quid in the back burner and they lose their edge. Just about every player has gone backwards, are they are from the 3rd world? I sense you know the answer. Seen it happen with locals as well nanna, that is why I mentioned Gateshead. CT definitely lost his edge as soon as he got his bumper pay deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I sense you know the answer. Seen it happen with locals as well nanna, that is why I mentioned Gateshead. CT definitely lost his edge as soon as he got his bumper pay deal. All of the players have gone backwards, just by different amounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 The greater part of me says bin him in the summer. But maybe under a decent manager he could improve himself. Shame we wont see either happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Or maybe he's just a £3.5m substitute from the dutch league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Or maybe he's just a £3.5m substitute from the dutch league? Maybe that's all we could afford? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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