Varadi Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I thought he was very good against Arsenal, he's getting close to his barnstorming best again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Tiote not limited? That's funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 He's very limited and players like him aren't a necessity in the game like they once were. That being said he's come on leaps and bounds from last season and I think that's down to him keeping it simple whilst in possession ans cutting out them holywood passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I've said this before but of all our CM's Tiote takes the most responsibility. He'll always show for the ball and therefore always makes the most passes. When he doesn't play nobody takes on that mantle. We simply just become more passive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Back to his best. He had Arsenal massively frustrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Back to his best. He had Arsenal massively frustrated. Yep, nice for him to be getting praise again. Really has made a massive U-turn in form just when it was looking likely his time might be up here, all credit to him. He is limited but a fair few players are but at least he's attributes he's limited he excels in and can be put to very effective use. When playing like this he's a very valuable member of the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I've said this before but of all our CM's Tiote takes the most responsibility. He'll always show for the ball and therefore always makes the most passes. When he doesn't play nobody takes on that mantle. We simply just become more passive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 suppose it's kind of fortunate that tiote didn't get wind of certain posters and their scathing analysis of him as a footballer otherwise he'd be off somewhere flipping fucking burgers rather than playing a pivotal role in our good season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 suppose it's kind of fortunate that tiote didn't get wind of certain posters and their scathing analysis of him as a footballer otherwise he'd be off somewhere flipping f***ing burgers rather than playing a pivotal role in our good season I stuck by him for a fair while but he lost my support 3/4's away through last season when things got real ugly. Thought we'd never get the old Tiote back and started to actually believe he was simply just found out. I wasn't happy when he was put straight back in against Cardiff when Anita was playing so well but fair play to him, he's hardly put a foot wrong, justified Pardew's faith in him and put in some excellent performances, fantastic turnaround which i never expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 your man pardew has to shoulder a massive portion of the blame for that 1 - 1.5 years of nonsense from cheick mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 your man pardew has to shoulder a massive portion of the blame for that 1 - 1.5 years of nonsense from cheick mind He does and he'll also take a large portion of the praise for his revival in that case Players and manager need to share responsibility through good times and bad. Easy to place the blame on the managers door step, not as easy to place it solely on the player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 your man pardew has to shoulder a massive portion of the blame for that 1 - 1.5 years of nonsense from cheick mind He does and he'll also take a large portion of the praise for his revival in that case Players and manager need to share responsibility through good times and bad. Easy to place the blame on the managers door step, not as easy to place it solely on the player. think you were pulled about this before no? we sign a player who comes in and plays amazing, as you've just admitted pardew was complicit in his turn to ratshit, yet he deserves praise for getting him back to where he was before he ruined him? you see how that doesn't quite work surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 your man pardew has to shoulder a massive portion of the blame for that 1 - 1.5 years of nonsense from cheick mind He does and he'll also take a large portion of the praise for his revival in that case Players and manager need to share responsibility through good times and bad. Easy to place the blame on the managers door step, not as easy to place it solely on the player. think you were pulled about this before no? we sign a player who comes in and plays amazing, as you've just admitted pardew was complicit in his turn to ratshit, yet he deserves praise for getting him back to where he was before he ruined him? you see how that doesn't quite work surely? I just don't buy into that it's that clear cut as you make it out to be. Thinking like that is basically saying it's Pardew's fault Cisse is playing shit, but when he starts scoring again, it's Cisse who's turned himself around. Just a harsh view. Reason why i believe Pardew was to blame with Tiote is he basically was given him too much do in times of crisis when likes of Cabaye was injured and we were stuck with Bigi/Jonas/Marv/Anita in the middle and the weight was all put on his shoulders to step up and he wasn't up to it. The ability wasn't there nor was the confidence. He's spun the confidence of the side back into his favour though, got a good run on the go and got Tiote back doing the basics well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 lets look at the cisse example scored goals his whole career, every type of goal in fact comes to the toon and continues that form, in the meantime pards accommodates him by throwing ba out wide who stops scoring start the next season and he puts ba back in the middle and cisse out wide, cleaning the bogs and such, and then ba gets sold...cisse never recovers his form after being moved back into the middle and being asked to play like ba i don't know brett, i just don't know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 lets look at the cisse example scored goals his whole career, every type of goal in fact comes to the toon and continues that form, in the meantime pards accommodates him by throwing ba out wide who stops scoring start the next season and he puts ba back in the middle and cisse out wide, cleaning the bogs and such, and then ba gets sold...cisse never recovers his form after being moved back into the middle and being asked to play like ba i don't know brett, i just don't know I agree he should never been put out wide, was an ill judgement and i've criticised Pardw for not having the balls to tell Ba to fuck off sooner with his demands to play centrally and giving in to them when the team should have came first. However because Cisse played a handful of games out wide, he was then put back in the centre and was given a long period of time there but the goals dried up and didn't look half the player. You see other strikers around the country going on wings then back through the middle and so forth but don't suddenly look like a striker who would struggle 3 divisions downwards. Mental to think it's Pardew's fault when players go through bad spells, and let the player off with a large share of the criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 lets look at the cisse example scored goals his whole career, every type of goal in fact comes to the toon and continues that form, in the meantime pards accommodates him by throwing ba out wide who stops scoring start the next season and he puts ba back in the middle and cisse out wide, cleaning the bogs and such, and then ba gets sold...cisse never recovers his form after being moved back into the middle and being asked to play like ba i don't know brett, i just don't know I agree he should never been put out wide, was an ill judgement and i've criticised Pardw for not having the balls to tell Ba to fuck off sooner with his demands to play centrally and giving in to them when the team should have came first. However because Cisse played a handful of games out wide, he was then put back in the centre and was given a long period of time there but the goals dried up and didn't look half the player. You see other strikers around the country going on wings then back through the middle and so forth but don't suddenly look like a striker who would struggle 3 divisions downwards. Mental to think it's Pardew's fault when players go through bad spells, and let the player off with a large share of the criticism. Correct me if I'm wrong but it might be the worst spell of his career? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 To be fair to Pardew, he's always rated Tiote and usually tries to include him in every game possible. That's the good side. Unfortunately his whacky formations and bizarre idea that Cheick is the toon Yaya Toure has probaby had plenty to do with his erratic form last season. Tiote's a good player when he plays to his strengths, he just needs good management. Pardew's good management is usually random and arrived at by trial and error rather than tactical acumen so here we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 In also by far the hardest league he's played in i must add... Jelavic was scoring goals for fun along with Cisse at a similar time but his dried up too and never really came back. Moyes fault? Martinez fault? Only so much blame can go to the manager before the player has to start taking responsibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 That's arguably strike of the season that as well. On his left, again. Fucking absolute fuming with that like, cannot even be arsed with the game anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
basjen Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 That's arguably strike of the season that as well. On his left, again. f***ing absolute fuming with that like, cannot even be arsed with the game anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 So after all those years he turned out to be left footed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Really impressed with how he has been trying to get out lads to calm down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbonegro Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 So after all those years he turned out to be left footed. explaines a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 So after all those years he turned out to be left footed. He's put in another solid performance. And credit to him for not losing his head after that abortion of a call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Just another 3 years until he hits another decent one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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