Ronaldo Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Tiote has won us far more points than he's lost us. That said, he's almost the definition of an away player as his awareness and poor decision making is exposed when he's forced to move higher up the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Wtf, its get on Tiote's back now is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Tiote has won us far more points than he's lost us. That said, he's almost the definition of an away player as his awareness and poor decision making is exposed when he's forced to move higher up the pitch. So it's got nothing to do with him trying to run our midfield on his own? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Has anyone worked out how many points he has cost us this season? 3 today. 2 last week. 3 v Blackburn (h) He's not a bright lad for sure. Honestly man you're a fucking joke anyway... W D L F A Pts With 8 6 7 34 25 30 Without 1 3 4 10 16 6 Conclusion - you're shit, he's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Tiote has won us far more points than he's lost us. That said, he's almost the definition of an away player as his awareness and poor decision making is exposed when he's forced to move higher up the pitch. So it's got nothing to do with him trying to run our midfield on his own? Yup. It's stupid what his teammates expect of him. He's meant to stop the other team scoring and create all of our chances as well. Maybe Nolan and Jonas could chip in a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Tiote has won us far more points than he's lost us. That said, he's almost the definition of an away player as his awareness and poor decision making is exposed when he's forced to move higher up the pitch. So it's got nothing to do with him trying to run our midfield on his own? Of course it does, and I never said otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Yup. It's stupid what his teammates expect of him. He's our meant to stop the other team scoring and create all of our chances as well. Maybe Nolan and Jonas could chip in a bit. I felt sorry for him after the final whistle, he was wrecked and lay on the pitch for a few minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Tiote is essential for us, can't imagine how i feel when the £20m+ bids comes in the summer. You think he's worth less than that, so you'd be willing to accept it no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Tiote is essential for us, can't imagine how i feel when the £20m+ bids comes in the summer. Even if it's Barca who come in for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Of course it does, and I never said otherwise. How come that makes him the definition of an away player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Has anyone worked out how many points he has cost us this season? 3 today. 2 last week. 3 v Blackburn (h) He's not a bright lad for sure. Honestly man you're a fucking joke anyway... W D L F A Pts With 8 6 7 34 25 30 Without 1 3 4 10 16 6 Conclusion - you're shit, he's not. http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/head-in-sand.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Has anyone worked out how many points he has cost us this season? 3 today. 2 last week. 3 v Blackburn (h) He's not a bright lad for sure. Honestly man you're a fucking joke anyway... W D L F A Pts With 8 6 7 34 25 30 Without 1 3 4 10 16 6 Conclusion - you're shit, he's not. http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/head-in-sand.jpg ha! good one. Honestly man, worry about something else. Far bigger problems than this lad, as the I've posted stats prove, unlike the conjecture you came up with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Of course it does, and I never said otherwise. How come that makes him the definition of an away player? Because he's a far more effective player when he simply sits in front of the defence and stifles. Look at his 3 best performances and 3 worst performances and a pattern will emerge. When he's expected to cover more ground, the recovery tackles come flying in and so does the occasional bad pass. He's still our best midfielder by a mile, don't get me wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Because he's a far more effective player when he simply sits in front of the defence and stifles. Look at his 3 best performances and 3 worst performances and a pattern will emerge. When he's expected to cover more ground, the recovery tackles come flying in and so does the occasional bad pass. He's still our best midfielder by a mile, don't get me wrong. He played well against Arsenal at home and we wouldn't have got the draw without him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 He was playing 50 yard diagonal balls into the channels for Ameobi and Best to run onto. That's not what he's there for. He's great when our backs are against the wall and the fact he's also having to take the responsibility of trying to create as well as destroy speaks volumes about the midfield and strikers he's playing around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Because he's a far more effective player when he simply sits in front of the defence and stifles. Look at his 3 best performances and 3 worst performances and a pattern will emerge. When he's expected to cover more ground, the recovery tackles come flying in and so does the occasional bad pass. He's still our best midfielder by a mile, don't get me wrong. He played well against Arsenal at home and we wouldn't have got the draw without him. And? He's a very good player who often plays well. He's just far, far more effective away from home within our team - for a variety of reasons, including the sackless old runt next to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 And? He's a very good player who often plays well. He's just far, far more effective away from home within our team - for a variety of reasons, including the sackless old runt next to him. That doesn't make him the definition of an away player, it means he's surrounded by shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 He is becoming more than a DCM for us, even taking some set pieces.. dunno if am happy with it or not, we need a DCM to sit in there and protect the back four. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Surrounded by shit doesn't explain why pretty much all of his iffy performances have come at SJP. There's a genuine limit to how effective he can be at home. The games against Stoke and Wigan in particular highlighted this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Surrounded by s*** doesn't explain why pretty much all of his iffy performances have come at SJP. There's a genuine limit to how effective he can be at home. The games against Stoke and Wigan in particular highlighted this. He's one player, probably the best we've got and can't do everything on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Has anyone worked out how many points he has cost us this season? 3 today. 2 last week. 3 v Blackburn (h) He's not a bright lad for sure. Honestly man you're a fucking joke anyway... W D L F A Pts With 8 6 7 34 25 30 Without 1 3 4 10 16 6 Conclusion - you're shit, he's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 Of course it does, and I never said otherwise. How come that makes him the definition of an away player? Because he's a far more effective player when he simply sits in front of the defence and stifles. Look at his 3 best performances and 3 worst performances and a pattern will emerge. When he's expected to cover more ground, the recovery tackles come flying in and so does the occasional bad pass. He's still our best midfielder by a mile, don't get me wrong. Agree with this. Was concerned when Pardew commented on how he'd like Tiote to contribute more going forward, if its not broke dont fix it. Tiote is the player who will make the team tick and to get the best out of Tiote he needs to be surrounded by attack minded players, for me his only job should be the makelele role - break down opposition play then pass to said players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 He'd be phenomenal with a proper ball-playing central midfielder along side him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 He is becoming more than a DCM for us, even taking some set pieces.. dunno if am happy with it or not, we need a DCM to sit in there and protect the back four. He put some excellent balls into the box for our forwards to fail at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted March 5, 2011 Share Posted March 5, 2011 He is becoming more than a DCM for us, even taking some set pieces.. dunno if am happy with it or not, we need a DCM to sit in there and protect the back four. Pardew did say he could be a real force going forward if done correctly, agree with you though to a degree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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