Andy Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Taylor's a better player than Williamson and we all know it. He's not like, and I don't exactly rate Williamson. Taylor is a moderately better "footballer" but a horrible defender; aside from being full-blooded he's worse than Williamson in virtually every single aspect of defending. Completely disagree. Taylor's better physically, in the air and in the tackle. He's braver too. Apologies for the late response but I'm just not seeing the same things you are like. There's a difference between being brave and being gung-ho or even borderline-reckless defensively; Taylor is typically far more prone to possessing the latter two qualities than "bravery" - Williamson doesn't hammer into hollywood-challenges as often but by the same token doesn't make half as many errors as a result of doing so... I don't have statistics (and regardless, they'd be massively skewed depending on who they're lining up against anyway) but I'd wager that Williamson wins more of his aerial battles (defensively) than Taylor does as well... As for physicality, Taylor is stronger but that's pretty irrelevant when he doesn't apply his physicality effectively. All of that, of course, is pre-amble to the kicker which is that we never look remotely solid as a unit with Taylor at the back. Williamson is able to form effective partnerships with other defenders and that's something Taylor has rarely been able to do over the course of his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zicomartin Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Taylor goes into showboat mode with Woy in the crowd and two weeks of the window left to earn a better contract elsewhere. Who wudda thunk it..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 He's a waster. Fed up of his pish - time to move him on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 He'll take a bit of time to get back up to speed with the game and get what Michael Owen calls "match fit." And then he'll be on the sidelines for a little while longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 3 starts, 3 goals conceded which can be directly attributed to him. He's fucking garbage and I really hope MYM moves across to partner Williamson next match with Debuchy coming straight back in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Also, I wanted to choke the cunt when we enjoyed about 30 passes in possession and he strode out with the ball, overran it and slid in to gift it to West Ham. Dickhead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Taylor's a better player than Williamson and we all know it. He's not like, and I don't exactly rate Williamson. Taylor is a moderately better "footballer" but a horrible defender; aside from being full-blooded he's worse than Williamson in virtually every single aspect of defending. Completely disagree. Taylor's better physically, in the air and in the tackle. He's braver too. Apologies for the late response but I'm just not seeing the same things you are like. There's a difference between being brave and being gung-ho or even borderline-reckless defensively; Taylor is typically far more prone to possessing the latter two qualities than "bravery" - Williamson doesn't hammer into hollywood-challenges as often but by the same token doesn't make half as many errors as a result of doing so... I don't have statistics (and regardless, they'd be massively skewed depending on who they're lining up against anyway) but I'd wager that Williamson wins more of his aerial battles (defensively) than Taylor does as well... As for physicality, Taylor is stronger but that's pretty irrelevant when he doesn't apply his physicality effectively. All of that, of course, is pre-amble to the kicker which is that we never look remotely solid as a unit with Taylor at the back. Williamson is able to form effective partnerships with other defenders and that's something Taylor has rarely been able to do over the course of his career. I made a comment during the second half about Forrest Gump running with the ball and losing it turning attack into a near miss from West Ham due to Forrest Gump being stupid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 3 starts, 3 goals conceded which can be directly attributed to him. He's fucking garbage and I really hope MYM moves across to partner Williamson next match with Debuchy coming straight back in. Absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Not enjoying having him back in the side. Hate his hero runs whenever he gets the ball. Out for Debuchy next week with Yanga going in the middle. Won't be the case though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Also, I wanted to choke the c*** when we enjoyed about 30 passes in possession and he strode out with the ball, overran it and slid in to gift it to West Ham. Dickhead. The last minutes of the first half sums up his career, tbh. 45 minutes on the clock and the rest of the team is happy to keep possession until HT. Taylor gets the ball, goes on superman mode and loses the ball in a dangerous position, giving West Ham the momentum. All that was followed by his hand waving in the goal we conceded. Thick idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Fine as 4th choice CB, nothing more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Fine as 4th choice CB, nothing more You've said that about Williamson. You wanna make up your mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 He really loses sense of what he's meant to be doing when the ball goes wide. Always has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 He's a crock of shit and has been for years. Loads of times Bramble got pelters yet Taylor partnering him was worse and got away with it cos he was a local lad playing up to the crowd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 He's a crock of shit and has been for years. Loads of times Bramble got pelters yet Taylor partnering him was worse and got away with it cos he was a local lad playing up to the crowd. Agree with that, mind. Taylor got away with absolute murder for years while people like me got slaughtered (at the game and on here) for telling it like it was. Now I think he's better than better than Mike Williamson and apparently that makes me his no.1 fan. There really is a lot of stupid people supporting our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 He needs a run of games, and as we've seen in the past when that happens he's a very good central defender. When he's rusty he isn't. He doesn't get much leeway on here mind. He was blamed in some quarters here for Manchester City's first goal last week when it was more Williamson not recognising he needed to put the ball out for a corner. And he rarely gets kudos when he does good things. It's just the ridiculous errors that really shouldn't be in his game with the experience he has that irritate me but as I say with a run of games, I'm sure he'd be back to his best. Whether he gets them is probably unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Fine as 4th choice CB, nothing more You've said that about Williamson. You wanna make up your mind. And Williamson is nothing more than that. Ideally we would sack them both off and get someone decent in. What's happened to remi streete these days? Going the usual route of showing promise, hailed as the next big thing, wanked over by super fans, let down by shit coaching and disappearing into oblivion? Should probably through some ling term injuries somewhere in between. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 He needs a run of games, and as we've seen in the past when that happens he's a very good central defender. When he's rusty he isn't. He doesn't get much leeway on here mind. He was blamed in some quarters here for Manchester City's first goal last week when it was more Williamson not recognising he needed to put the ball out for a corner. And he rarely gets kudos when he does good things. It's just the ridiculous errors that really shouldn't be in his game with the experience he has that irritate me but as I say with a run of games, I'm sure he'd be back to his best. Whether he gets them is probably unlikely. I actually think he's done well in the last 3 games considering he's back from injury. If Coloccini, Williamson or MYM had been beaten to the ball by Dzeko last Sunday nobody would've said a word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 You would have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I just tell it like it is. I don't particularly rate any of them, apart from MYM - and that's more potential than current ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Other then there goal today, in which he just miss timed his header, I don't think he had a bad game, and tbh in the last couple of games Williamson has probably been more of a liability then Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Fine as 4th choice CB, nothing more You've said that about Williamson. You wanna make up your mind. Have I though? If I have, whenever I said it (before his recent run of form), would you have thought it an outlandish statement? Also, I don't think saying that about either player is a bad summary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 He's a crock of s*** and has been for years. Loads of times Bramble got pelters yet Taylor partnering him was worse and got away with it cos he was a local lad playing up to the crowd. Agree with that, mind. Taylor got away with absolute murder for years while people like me got slaughtered (at the game and on here) for telling it like it was. Now I think he's better than better than Mike Williamson and apparently that makes me his no.1 fan. There really is a lot of stupid people supporting our club. Also, it's there really are a lot of stupid people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/926/d50d.png He should get slaughtered for that but he won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/926/d50d.png He should get slaughtered for that but he won't. By who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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