Steven Taylor (now retired)

[quayside]

Where has the club suggested a figure? And it clearly shows they're doing everything to keep him when they're putting him on the transfer list when he refuses their offer. Not digging at you magorific, I just don't really understand your post.

 

I'm not sure about the logic that breaking off negotiations and putting someone on the transfer list without telling them is "doing everything to keep him". They still haven't even got round to putting in the paperwork.

 

http://www.givemefootball.com/pfa-transfer-list

 

You'd almost think the transfer list announcement was done purely as a point scoring exercise. 

 

 

When you think about how secretly the club tries to do business these days, isn't it strange how easily some information leaks out?

 

As you say the club does try and keep a lid on its business but is still quite capable of playing out a PR war through the media. I would say though that in this case Taylor (and/or his father) have certainly competed in that war. Now what I can't remember is whether the club or Alf Taylor actually started it.....anyone?

 

I wouldn't place too much credence in that transfer list website btw - there's only two players on there who are on sale for a fee. The rest are free transfers, juniors and possible loan signings. I had a quick flick through and I hardly found a player on there who is currently with a Premier League club, but I may have got a duff sample! Also apart from the odd one like Aliadiere they certainly aren't names anyone will have heard of. I will bet my house that there are players who will change hands in January who aren't on that website...

[Tooj]

If they're offering Taylor 50k, it would be quite interesting to know what kind of wage Carroll's new contract took him to.

[wormy]

Where has the club suggested a figure? And it clearly shows they're doing everything to keep him when they're putting him on the transfer list when he refuses their offer. Not digging at you magorific, I just don't really understand your post.

 

I'm not sure about the logic that breaking off negotiations and putting someone on the transfer list without telling them is "doing everything to keep him". They still haven't even got round to putting in the paperwork.

 

http://www.givemefootball.com/pfa-transfer-list

 

You'd almost think the transfer list announcement was done purely as a point scoring exercise. 

 

 

When you think about how secretly the club tries to do business these days, isn't it strange how easily some information leaks out?

 

As you say the club does try and keep a lid on its business but is still quite capable of playing out a PR war through the media. I would say though that in this case Taylor (and/or his father) have certainly competed in that war. Now what I can't remember is whether the club or Alf Taylor actually started it.....anyone?

 

I wouldn't place too much credence in that transfer list website btw - there's only two players on there who are on sale for a fee. The rest are free transfers, juniors and possible loan signings. I had a quick flick through and I hardly found a player on there who is currently with a Premier League club, but I may have carried out got a duff sample! Also apart from the odd one like Aliadiere they certainly aren't names anyone will have heard of. I will bet my house that there are players who will change hands in January who aren't on that website...

 

I only recently found out there's actually a transfer list that players can be submitted to. I always just considered it a phrase to say that the player's available. Which I think it is these days, would be highly surprised if clubs actually used a list like that to advertise their players' availability.

[ChrisMcQuillan]

If they're offering Taylor 50k, it would be quite interesting to know what kind of wage Carroll's new contract took him to.

 

Not very much.  He was taking advantage of Orange Wednesdays the other night.

[Ronaldo]

I can't help but think that Taylor's a player who'll always hold us back, to some extent. I hope someone makes an offer in January and we take it.

[Yorkie]

Really not bothered if he signs tbh. He's got a high sell-on value which would be useful but i tend to agree with Ronaldo. If he's the long term partner for Coloccini then i think we're mugs offering him £50k a week. There'll be better centre-backs in the bargain basement than Steven Taylor.

[ponsaelius]

Be happy to keep him on reasonable wages, but if the reported 50k a week is correct I'd rather we just let him go tbh.

[Dokko]

Really not bothered if he signs tbh. He's got a high sell-on value which would be useful but i tend to agree with Ronaldo. If he's the long term partner for Coloccini then i think we're mugs offering him £50k a week. There'll be better centre-backs in the bargain basement than Steven Taylor.

 

Who?

[Dave]

I couldn't really give a shit what he's being offered tbh. It's not like this regime is going to sanction something we're not going to be able to afford anyway.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Be happy to keep him on reasonable wages, but if the reported 50k a week is correct I'd rather we just let him go tbh.

 

This. He should and would only remain a squad player imo.

[ponsaelius]

Be happy to keep him on reasonable wages, but if the reported 50k a week is correct I'd rather we just let him go tbh.

 

This. He should and would only remain a squad player imo.

 

He's a decent squad player, and I like the idea of having homegrown players in and around the first team, I just don't think he's worthy of big wages at all.

[Guest firetotheworks]

I couldn't really give a s*** what he's being offered tbh. It's not like this regime is going to sanction something we're not going to be able to afford anyway.

 

It's about their worth though, the difference between paying 50 grand a week on players like Taylor and Smith and having a tidy squad of players like Bassong, Tiote etc. I care because I don't feel the player has given anything to deserve a pay raise, and nor does he provide quality to the sum of 50 grand a week anyway.

[Dave]

He doesn't provide quality to the sum of two grand a week if you're going with that angle. None of them do.

 

I'd only be arsed if this deal was going to stop us signing anyone else. As mentioned, considering who's in charge then I highly doubt that.

[Guest Stephen927]

Can't really afford to let him walk for nothing and strengthen a rival.

[Yorkie]

Really not bothered if he signs tbh. He's got a high sell-on value which would be useful but i tend to agree with Ronaldo. If he's the long term partner for Coloccini then i think we're mugs offering him £50k a week. There'll be better centre-backs in the bargain basement than Steven Taylor.

 

Who?

 

Dunno tbh, i'm not a scout. But if we needed to buy a cheap centre-back i'd have faith in Hughton to find someone better than Taylor.

[Frazzle]

I can't help but think that Taylor's a player who'll always hold us back, to some extent. I hope someone makes an offer in January and we take it.

 

In what way?  He won't play if doesn't deserve to.  It's not like the fans are clamouring for him to play every game pressuring the manager to play him, most on here seem to think he's shit.

[Dokko]

Really not bothered if he signs tbh. He's got a high sell-on value which would be useful but i tend to agree with Ronaldo. If he's the long term partner for Coloccini then i think we're mugs offering him £50k a week. There'll be better centre-backs in the bargain basement than Steven Taylor.

 

Who?

 

Dunno tbh, i'm not a scout. But if we needed to buy a cheap centre-back i'd have faith in Hughton to find someone better than Taylor.

 

We should sell Andy Carroll for £20m in the winter window and buy two of him with his ability and for half the price; I'm not a scout either but it doesn't work like that, getting rid of Taylor for nothing and reaplcing him for what it would cost to sign him back up will be very tough and why the club want to offer him a new deal and keep him here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ketsbaia]

Fine, let him sign. Then sell him for moolah in the summer.

[Ronaldo]

I can't help but think that Taylor's a player who'll always hold us back, to some extent. I hope someone makes an offer in January and we take it.

 

In what way?  He won't play if doesn't deserve to.  It's not like the fans are clamouring for him to play every game pressuring the manager to play him, most on here seem to think he's s***.

 

I think he has a negative effect on the players around him. And the local hero thing is a get-out clause that seems to anger half the crowd and most of his teammates.

 

He also thinks he's about three times the player he actually is, and will most likely request a transfer if he's benched for a long period. He's nearly 25 now.

[Geordie Ahmed]

I hope we can keep him - he is a good player and as we have clearly seen recently we do need him

[Ronaldo]

We've seen recently that we need 4 CBs.

[madras]

We've seen recently that we need 4 CBs.

especially if one or more of them are decent at full back aswell.

[Geordie Ahmed]

We've seen recently that we need 4 CBs.

 

Indeed - Colo, Williamson, Taylor and Sol - good enough for me, plenty of competition

 

 

[ohmelads]

Be very disappointed if he walks away for nowt. Campbell's in his final season and I'm not totally convinced Colo and Willo are the answer.

 

People get on like it's a) easy to find a top defender b) top defenders want to come to us and c) Mike Ashley will pay for the transfer fee/wages of a top defender.

 

He could easily be replaced by another Perch/Simpson kind of signing, or even a Kadar. Does anyone seriously think Ashley will open up the cheque book? If he does, it'll affect our spending in other areas, like right wing or up front.

[Stifler]

I don't think that their is a better defender out there that would come to us, who

 

A. Isn't nearly passed it like Campbel is.

 

B. Would play for us for less money than Taylor.

 

C. Would be as loyal to us as Taylor would be.

 

 

Not only that but I'd rather us spend however amount of money it would take to bring in someone as a replacement on other areas. Taylor isn't the finished article yet, I still think he has more in his locker.