Beren Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 51 goals in 282 appearances. A record any decent midfielder would be happy with. 9 goals in his last 74 Premier League appearances. 1 in 19 this season. 2 in 27 last season. What a mess we have.  Only 4 more careers to catch up with Shearer.  Turns out he averages a goal every 270 mins since he started playing for us. 1 in 3, not that bad for a backup. A goal every 321 mins this season. To put that in context, Danny Welbeck (a player who does a similar job on a far better level for the current league leaders) averages a goal every 299 mins in his Man United career to date. As I said earlier for someone to keep around the squad and bring on for 10 mins here and there he is fine. The chances of us buying the 2 or probably 3 strikers we'd need if we got shot off him are low too.  The problem with any goalscoring stat for Shola is that if he's on the pitch he often takes (quite rightly) the penalties. Which anyone, even Tim Krul, would expect to score more often than not. Therefore Shola's goals to minutes ration is actually a lot better than it would be were he not so good with spot kicks.  Offset by playing with injuries/playing in a support striker role/so many of his appearances being sub appearances and not a run of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Whats his assists total and ratio? Always seems to set up some major goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 51 goals in 282 appearances. A record any decent midfielder would be happy with. 9 goals in his last 74 Premier League appearances. 1 in 19 this season. 2 in 27 last season. What a mess we have.  Only 4 more careers to catch up with Shearer.  Turns out he averages a goal every 270 mins since he started playing for us. 1 in 3, not that bad for a backup. A goal every 321 mins this season. To put that in context, Danny Welbeck (a player who does a similar job on a far better level for the current league leaders) averages a goal every 299 mins in his Man United career to date. As I said earlier for someone to keep around the squad and bring on for 10 mins here and there he is fine. The chances of us buying the 2 or probably 3 strikers we'd need if we got shot off him are low too.  The problem with any goalscoring stat for Shola is that if he's on the pitch he often takes (quite rightly) the penalties. Which anyone, even Tim Krul, would expect to score more often than not. Therefore Shola's goals to minutes ration is actually a lot better than it would be were he not so good with spot kicks.  Plus he's generally used from the bench (he's the most used sub in Premier League history, and he's being used that way even more so in recent years), which makes this goals per minutes on the pitch thing a bit daft. Say he plays 15-20 minutes for 10 games in a row and he scores 1 goal, you could say he's scoring a goal every 2 games. Do you think he'd score 5 goals if he played 90 minutes in those 10 games? NOOOOOOOOO! Means that these comparisons with players that are doing more than the odd cameo don't make any sense. And that's before you consider his general play FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 How many apples can he eat on a 6km bike ride? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Do you think he'd score 5 goals if he played 90 minutes in those 10 games? Â Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Do you think he'd score 5 goals if he played 90 minutes in those 10 games? Â Aye. Â wot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 He's fucking rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Signing up Shola to a new contract will make absolutely zero difference to us signing other strikers imo. Â We have had a number of games with no forwards on the bench and I don't think he is anywhere near as bad as some will make out. Â He's not exceptional, he's not the player you bring on to pull out that bit of magic but he is someone who can come on, put in a decent performance and help a game in different ways to our others options. Â Â Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 He's f***ing rubbish. Â Exactly, it's crazy he is still in and around the first team. Should be nowhere near a premiership team. Shite Stoke didn't want to keep him, and that says it all really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 He's f***ing rubbish. Â Exactly, it's crazy he is still in and around the first team. Should be nowhere near a premiership team. Shite Stoke didn't want to keep him, and that says it all really. Â Didn't they bid ÂŁ4m for him? Â We didn't offer them to him, they tried to sign him which is how we know of their interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 He's f***ing rubbish.  Exactly, it's crazy he is still in and around the first team. Should be nowhere near a premiership team. s**** Stoke didn't want to keep him, and that says it all really.  Didn't they bid £4m for him?  We didn't offer them to him, they tried to sign him which is how we know of their interest.  No, they played him a couple of times, realised how shit he was and benched him for the rest of his time there, then sent him back and legged it. Only Ipswich came sniffing but the useless knacker didn't fancy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hobshobs Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Whinge about lack of depth and whinge about a perfectly serviceable depth player being retained, bizarre IMO  Serviceable for what? League 1? Not the premiership.  Of course he's servicable, not as a starter but he provides perfectly decent depth and his record proves it. He's happy to be "depth" (which shouldn't be underestimated) is evidently a good influence in the dressing room. Seriously what's not to like. It's not like they'll be getting shot of Cisse because of this and Shola is to be our featured striker FFS I'd rather have Shola than £5 Million man Danny Graham any day of any week.   Jeez, 6 of us having a Sunday pint this afternoon and to a man said we'd rather have a lazy Michael Owen than bloody Shola. Complete waste of space. Actually infuriating that even the smallest percentage of my season ticket money may go towards keeping this abomination of a football player on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Â Â Jeez, 6 of us having a Sunday pint this afternoon and to a man said we'd rather have a lazy Michael Owen than bloody Shola. Complete waste of space. Actually infuriating that even the smallest percentage of my season ticket money may go towards keeping this abomination of a football player on. Â The worst thing for me isn't how much I pay towards keeping him, it's the thought of having to watch him for even longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Why on earth would you rather have Owen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hobshobs Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Why on earth would you rather have Owen? Â To be honest I think I just said that 'cause he's been in the news and one of the lads mentioned him by name. What we actually said was we'd rather have anybody than Shola. Truth of the matter is Owen was a disgrace when he was with us but Shola is as bad. Owen never once stated he loved the club. Shola continually waffles on about his commitment and caring for this institution of ours. How he can say he cares about the club yet on the pitch lumbers around like tomorrow will do is beyond me. Is there actually any other club in the Premiership or Championship that would even consider taking him. I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 It's made this season that we make the Europa League final, it gets to penalties and he takes the last one to get us the trophy. Â Wouldn't even be exciting that very last penalty as we all know that he'll score it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Why on earth would you rather have Owen? Â To be honest I think I just said that 'cause he's been in the news and one of the lads mentioned him by name. What we actually said was we'd rather have anybody than Shola. Truth of the matter is Owen was a disgrace when he was with us but Shola is as bad. How he can say he cares about the club yet on the pitch lumbers around like tomorrow will do is beyond me. Is there actually any other club in the Premiership or Championship that would even consider taking him. I doubt it. Â The reason he "lumbers around" is due to him having sacrificed himself in the past for the club's benefit, so it's pretty harsh to blame him for that and to imply that he doesn't care for the club is just ridiculous. As someone to bring on at the end of matches to offer something a bit different I think Shola's worth hanging on to, we need to sign another goalscorer in the summer regardless of whether Shola's here or not, so to have him as another option as well is obviously better than not having that option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hobshobs Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Why on earth would you rather have Owen? Â To be honest I think I just said that 'cause he's been in the news and one of the lads mentioned him by name. What we actually said was we'd rather have anybody than Shola. Truth of the matter is Owen was a disgrace when he was with us but Shola is as bad. How he can say he cares about the club yet on the pitch lumbers around like tomorrow will do is beyond me. Is there actually any other club in the Premiership or Championship that would even consider taking him. I doubt it. Â The reason he "lumbers around" is due to him having sacrificed himself in the past for the club's benefit, so it's pretty harsh to blame him for that and to imply that he doesn't care for the club is just ridiculous. As someone to bring on at the end of matches to offer something a bit different I think Shola's worth hanging on to, we need to sign another goalscorer in the summer regardless of whether Shola's here or not, so to have him as another option as well is obviously better than not having that option. Â It's harsh that I have to work bloody hard all week to watch him offer virtually nothing in a black and white shirt. As for sacrificing himself, sorry sacrifice and Shola just don't go together, he rarely even breaks sweat in a black and white shirt. One thing I do agree on though, he most certainly does offer something different. It's a different class of different as well. Scottish Third Division class and that would be pushing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Owen or Shola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vinkent Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 It's made this season that we make the Europa League final, it gets to penalties and he takes the last one to get us the trophy. Â Wouldn't even be exciting that very last penalty as we all know that he'll score it. Â Any other day I'd be confident but I'd be shitting my pants if this was the case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Why on earth would you rather have Owen? Â To be honest I think I just said that 'cause he's been in the news and one of the lads mentioned him by name. What we actually said was we'd rather have anybody than Shola. Truth of the matter is Owen was a disgrace when he was with us but Shola is as bad. How he can say he cares about the club yet on the pitch lumbers around like tomorrow will do is beyond me. Is there actually any other club in the Premiership or Championship that would even consider taking him. I doubt it. Â The reason he "lumbers around" is due to him having sacrificed himself in the past for the club's benefit, so it's pretty harsh to blame him for that and to imply that he doesn't care for the club is just ridiculous. As someone to bring on at the end of matches to offer something a bit different I think Shola's worth hanging on to, we need to sign another goalscorer in the summer regardless of whether Shola's here or not, so to have him as another option as well is obviously better than not having that option. Â It's harsh that I have to work bloody hard all week to watch him offer virtually nothing in a black and white shirt. As for sacrificing himself, sorry sacrifice and Shola just don't go together, he rarely even breaks sweat in a black and white shirt. One thing I do agree on though, he most certainly does offer something different. It's a different class of different as well. Scottish Third Division class and that would be pushing it. Â He played through numerous injuries because we didn't have anyone else and this has completely fucked his hips, that is why he "lumbers around the pitch". I would say that was sacrificing himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 The excessive and daft Shola-hate makes every contract that much sweeter. NUFC legend. One day there will be a statue of Shola outside SJP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 It's not excessive in the slightest I worry about the people who seem to forget his consistently piss poor performances and say daft things like above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 The excessive and daft Shola-hate makes every contract that much sweeter. NUFC legend. One day there will be a statue of Shola outside SJP  Must try harder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 Not at all getting the Shola-hate, totally undeserved. Will be glad to see another contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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