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The one thing that we should never have messed with this season was the left-hand side part of our team with Jonas and Jose.

 

It was mental to change it IMO, we should correct that mistake ASAP by putting Jonas back in on the left.

 

All other conversations about selection should really be based on this premise.

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The one thing that we should never have messed with this season was the left-hand side part of our team with Jonas and Jose.

 

It was mental to change it IMO, we should correct that mistake ASAP by putting Jonas back in on the left.

 

All other conversations about selection should really be based on this premise.

 

What work's in the championship doesn't necessarily work in the Premiership.

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The one thing that we should never have messed with this season was the left-hand side part of our team with Jonas and Jose.

 

It was mental to change it IMO, we should correct that mistake ASAP by putting Jonas back in on the left.

 

All other conversations about selection should really be based on this premise.

 

What work's in the championship doesn't necessarily work in the Premiership.

 

Agreed, but it never seems a good idea to mess around with your biggest strength first.

 

Also, it was never given a fair chance to work in the Premiership, Hughton is just attached to Nolan for some reason.

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The one thing that we should never have messed with this season was the left-hand side part of our team with Jonas and Jose.

 

It was mental to change it IMO, we should correct that mistake ASAP by putting Jonas back in on the left.

 

All other conversations about selection should really be based on this premise.

 

What work's in the championship doesn't necessarily work in the Premiership.

 

Agreed, but it never seems a good idea to mess around with your biggest strength first.

 

Also, it was never given a fair chance to work in the Premiership, Hughton is just attached to Nolan for some reason.

 

I'm sure they played together quite a bit in the season we went down.

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The one thing that we should never have messed with this season was the left-hand side part of our team with Jonas and Jose.

 

It was mental to change it IMO, we should correct that mistake ASAP by putting Jonas back in on the left.

 

All other conversations about selection should really be based on this premise.

 

What work's in the championship doesn't necessarily work in the Premiership.

 

Agreed, but it never seems a good idea to mess around with your biggest strength first.

 

Also, it was never given a fair chance to work in the Premiership, Hughton is just attached to Nolan for some reason.

 

I'm sure they played together quite a bit in the season we went down.

 

Wish people would stop saying stuff like this.

 

Coloccini was a useless t*** in the Prem, he's now arguably our best performer this season.

 

Carroll is on the verge of an England call-up.

 

Enrique has turned into God over the last year.

 

etc etc.

 

Lots has changed in 2 years, to keep linking back to that relegation season is a bit misguided because it's mostly irrelevant.

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The one thing that we should never have messed with this season was the left-hand side part of our team with Jonas and Jose.

 

It was mental to change it IMO, we should correct that mistake ASAP by putting Jonas back in on the left.

 

All other conversations about selection should really be based on this premise.

 

What work's in the championship doesn't necessarily work in the Premiership.

 

Agreed, but it never seems a good idea to mess around with your biggest strength first.

 

Also, it was never given a fair chance to work in the Premiership, Hughton is just attached to Nolan for some reason.

 

I'm sure they played together quite a bit in the season we went down.

 

Wish people would stop saying stuff like this.

 

Coloccini was a useless t*** in the Prem, he's now arguably our best performer this season.

 

Carroll is on the verge of an England call-up.

 

Enrique has turned into God over the last year.

 

etc etc.

 

Lots has changed in 2 years, to keep linking back to that relegation season is a bit misguided because it's mostly irrelevant.

 

:no: saying players are good after a few games back in the premiership is misguided. 

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The one thing that we should never have messed with this season was the left-hand side part of our team with Jonas and Jose.

 

It was mental to change it IMO, we should correct that mistake ASAP by putting Jonas back in on the left.

 

All other conversations about selection should really be based on this premise.

 

What work's in the championship doesn't necessarily work in the Premiership.

 

Agreed, but it never seems a good idea to mess around with your biggest strength first.

 

Also, it was never given a fair chance to work in the Premiership, Hughton is just attached to Nolan for some reason.

 

I'm sure they played together quite a bit in the season we went down.

 

Wish people would stop saying stuff like this.

 

Coloccini was a useless t*** in the Prem, he's now arguably our best performer this season.

 

Carroll is on the verge of an England call-up.

 

Enrique has turned into God over the last year.

 

etc etc.

 

Lots has changed in 2 years, to keep linking back to that relegation season is a bit misguided because it's mostly irrelevant.

 

:no: saying players are good after a few games back in the premiership is misguided. 

 

You've completely missed the point. Some players are just as s*** as they were 2 years ago, some players have improved a lot in that time. Players have left and players have come in and we have a different manager in charge. The overall squad and team as a whole is very different and the situation has changed. Making judgements because of what happened in 08/09 is pointless and is only being made in this instance to support your hatred for Jonas.

 

Anyway, out of those 3 points what did I say that was innacurate?

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The one thing that we should never have messed with this season was the left-hand side part of our team with Jonas and Jose.

 

It was mental to change it IMO, we should correct that mistake ASAP by putting Jonas back in on the left.

 

All other conversations about selection should really be based on this premise.

 

What work's in the championship doesn't necessarily work in the Premiership.

 

Agreed, but it never seems a good idea to mess around with your biggest strength first.

 

Also, it was never given a fair chance to work in the Premiership, Hughton is just attached to Nolan for some reason.

 

I'm sure they played together quite a bit in the season we went down.

 

Wish people would stop saying stuff like this.

 

Coloccini was a useless t*** in the Prem, he's now arguably our best performer this season.

 

Carroll is on the verge of an England call-up.

 

Enrique has turned into God over the last year.

 

etc etc.

 

Lots has changed in 2 years, to keep linking back to that relegation season is a bit misguided because it's mostly irrelevant.

 

:no: saying players are good after a few games back in the premiership is misguided. 

 

So referring to how they performed in our relegation season isn't? José was still learning in this country. It was Jonas' first seasons in England. As they've also being involved in the discussion, it was also Coloccini's first season in England plus Carroll was still only a teen. Are you seriously suggesting that they haven't improved as players? That's the way it comes across.

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i think he could well go ben arfa-left, jonas-right.

 

putting jonas in as a workhorse to help out perch.

Definately couldn't have Ben Arfa on the right as Perch gets zilch cover from Routledge as it is never from Ben Arfa drifting all over the shop.

 

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I think the Jonas - Enrique partnership is overrated, personally.

 

-1, Enrique was a lost sheep at times against Stoke when coming forward as Ben arfa was busy drifting about the pitch(rightfully so). Enrique plays some amazing forward football with guti and guti is great cover for Enrique, usually when he loses the ball on a wasted run :)

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I think the Jonas - Enrique partnership is overrated, personally.

 

Overrated, but works a lot better than Jose/HBA-

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Personally dislike the Enrique-Jonas partnership. It's good having them link up like that, but increasingly with Jonas it feels as though he can't be bothered to go forward anymore (off the ball especially), so instead he's just loitering in the middle third of the wing playing as some sort of playmaker who's sole job is to encourage the fullback to get forward.

 

If he drives forward like he did against Stoke on top of linking up with Enrique, then it's a different matter - i.e. Jonas has to start down the left. If he plays like he has done this season, I'd just forget the partnership as I think Enrique is good enough to attack without needing a babysitter in front of him.

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