loki679 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 All this "big pharma is covering up the cure for $$$" talk usually comes from mentalists with no sense of propriety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 All this "big pharma is covering up the cure for $$$" talk usually comes from America, where they forget all the countries with public healthcare who would save billions if they had the cure, and all the publicly funded scientific research that goes on. it's a sizable minority too. Alex Jones and his ilk have multi-million dollar industries based on this misinformation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Wasn't it zicomartin who babbled on about the server location thing the other week? Says it all really. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Think we should stop talking about conspiracy theories in this thread. Get well soon Jonas, top bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zicomartin Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Yeah, you guys are pretty fun to hang out with, when all is said and done. We could all go for pints and have a great laugh about beating two stage four cancers for 8 years, whilst still not being dead, or even feeling ill in the slightest. Quite honestly, nobody cares and you are on your own, when this happens to you. You make your choices, and you live or die by them. No big deal. At least we ALL have a choice. Best to Jonas of course. Hopefully his immense fitness (and Colo's green tea) sees him through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Yeah, you guys are pretty fun to hang out with, when all is said and done. We could all go for pints and have a great laugh about beating two stage four cancers for 8 years, whilst still not being dead, or even feeling ill in the slightest. Quite honestly, nobody cares and you are on your own, when this happens to you. You make your choices, and you live or die by them. No big deal. At least we ALL have a choice. Best to Jonas of course. Hopefully his immense fitness (and Colo's green tea) sees him through. or he should stick with chemo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zicomartin Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 And what about the other 5 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Chemo usually last a few months. Are you having another "American hosting company" moment? 5-year survival rates are useful in understanding prognosis. Most cancer is so unpredictable that it becomes less meaningful to go beyond that. And no wonder pill or Cesium-133 treatment will change that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Fuck this man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Further discussion of doctors' plans to kill us all with chemotherapy and keep the real cure for cancer secret can be continued here http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,76773.msg5169391.html#msg5169391 Keep it out of this thread from now on please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I know he's obviously been treated harshly but under no circumstances should he have been kept in the first team out of sympathy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I know he's obviously been treated harshly but under no circumstances should he have been kept in the first team out of sympathy. But you don't tell a guy in that situation to find another team, either. There's a load of space between fuck off and first name on the team sheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I quite agree but we don't know the context. If he's said he wants first team football and we've told him to find another team I don't see a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I quite agree but we don't know the context. If he's said he wants first team football and we've told him to find another team I don't see a problem. You sit him down and explain the situation to him. Tell him to recover, and we'll see what happens moving forward. Train with the team if you're healthy and we'll get you minutes if we can. As long as he's been here, coming from another country the team should have been an extended family to the man, but to be like No, nope! Go find another team, after all that? When all he wants to do is get back to what is most normal for him? That's a completely fucking unforgivable dickhead move, made by a shitstain of a fucking person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Mike, what are you actually advocating here? If he wanted first team football surely the best thing for him would be to get that at club who were offering it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 I'm not sure that getting first team football was the number one thing on his mind like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Mike, what are you actually advocating here? If he wanted first team football surely the best thing for him would be to get that at club who were offering it. I'm saying you don't let him go on loan. You keep him around the team in some capacity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 "Do we have to pay his wages while we do the all that "family" stuff?" "Legally, yes" "Right. Tell him to go away" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Wasn't it already decided that he wouldn't play any more because of his contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Mike, what are you actually advocating here? If he wanted first team football surely the best thing for him would be to get that at club who were offering it. I'm saying you don't let him go on loan. You keep him around the team in some capacity. And we have absolutely no reason to think he'd have accepted that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Suggest you take my outlandish claims to Google and prove otherwise, then. Would love to, but can't afford the air ticket to fly into the States for their internet. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Suggest you take my outlandish claims to Google and prove otherwise, then. Would love to, but can't afford the air ticket to fly into the States for their internet. :lol: :lol: Google headquarters is only an hour and a half drive from where I am right now. I could take your inquiries to them, LRD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Those last few pages are perfectly en sync with the book I'm currently reading; Bad Science. Fucking lifting posts like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Mike, what are you actually advocating here? If he wanted first team football surely the best thing for him would be to get that at club who were offering it. I'm saying you don't let him go on loan. You keep him around the team in some capacity. And we have absolutely no reason to think he'd have accepted that. In normal circumstances for a normal functioning club, yes, but this is the Mike Ashley/Lee Charnley/Alan Pardew running of Newcastle. He could have just "stayed on" - which we don't know if that was suggested to him, or if he wanted his place in the team back - but based on evidence of how this club acts, I'll tend to believe he was fucked about until its confirmed otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Given some of the interviews he did at Norwich it's pretty clear he expected first team football. I've no doubt the club acted like cunts but I see no reason to criticise them for telling him he needed to find another club if he wanted to get games. I'm sure that was preferable to just hanging around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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