Elliottman Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 He was worse in the relegation season in my opinion. Was he bollocks, at least he attempted to carry the ball then. He is contributing nothing to us at the minute, he needs to be removed from the first 11 at the earliest possible opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I get the criticisms of Jonas but I do think some views are harsh. He was one of the main reasons we looked a cut above in the championship and despite a dip in form over the last 12 months is as commited as anybody. He's no Iniesta and at the same time at his best he isnt/wasnt half as limited as people make out. People who are waxical lyrical about the club needing to get rid whilst hailing the likes of Ryan Taylor as a fantastic squad player (I agree to extent fwiw) need to give their heads a shake. Its possible he's reaching his autumn years but he still has a role to play at this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 His role should be 'a good lad to have in the dressing room' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 His role should be 'a good lad to have in the dressing room' Sounds like Alan Smith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I like Jonas, but he shouldn't start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 His role should be 'a good lad to have in the dressing room' Sounds like Alan Smith. Not allowed to compare the two apparently. Jonas has nice hair or something, provides funny gifs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Alan Smith is the single worst player I've ever seen in a shirt. There not comparable imo. Jonas shouldnt start on current form however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Alan Smith is the single worst player I've ever seen in a shirt. There not comparable imo. Jonas shouldnt start on current form however. Give Jonas a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Alan Smith is the single worst player I've ever seen in a shirt. There not comparable imo. Jonas shouldnt start on current form however. Give Jonas a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I get the criticisms of Jonas but I do think some views are harsh. He was one of the main reasons we looked a cut above in the championship Was he bollocks, man. He did well at times but still frequently looked a poor footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 The relative quality of him, Colo (particularly) and the goals of Nolan were a big factor. He looked out of place for the better in the championship. Certainly wasn't Alan Smith and Nicky Butt as media oulets would tediousy convey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Jonas is nowhere near as bad as some people make out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Jonas is nowhere near as bad as some people make out. I agree Jagger, some are a bit ott, but i guess some don't mean exactly what they type, literally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Can't cross, pass, shoot or run. Mick's right, how bad could he be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Can't cross, pass, shoot or run. Mick's right, how bad could he be? He can cross, he can pass, he can shoot and he can run. He's going through a bad patch and he'll come through it. I don't think any of our players have played in as many different positions as Jonas has for us and I'm not surprised that his game has suffered for it. He puts loads of effort into games, even when things aren't going well for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 So he pissing should. Graft is the only thing he brings to the team. Lets praise Tim Krul for diving at the odd ball while we're at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 So he pissing should. Graft is the only thing he brings to the team. Lets praise Tim Krul for diving at the odd ball while we're at it. I love it when Krul dives for the odd ball, he's brilliant. Happy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 When Pardew went to put an arm around him at full time, Jonas was shaking his head with disgust at himself. He knows he's making some shocking mistakes, and contributing little, yet he doesn't know how to turn it around. Anyone who's played football consistently for any decent amount of time will understand this feeling. Sometimes you get stuck in a rut and you're not sure what it is that needs to be done. A spell on the bench is one solution that's for sure. Always gives a player perspective and a chance to gather their thoughts. This is especially true in Jonas' case as he seems to want to rush everything he does on the pitch these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 The reason why there is such polar opposite opinions on Jonas is that it depends on what you expect from him. If you want an attacking winger with skill on the ball, dribbling and good crosses, then that is never going to be Jonas. But if you want a defensive winger who runs his bollocks off and provides cover to the full back to protect a lead, then Jonas fits the bill. I'd start Marveux and Jonas to come on if we need defensive reinforcement. For the record, I thought he did reasonably well given his role on Tuesday. Cabaye's goal originated from his cross indirectly and that goal line clearance was as vital as any goal. There's no doubt that Jonas is now the weakest link in our first 11, and since Williamson and Simpson can no longer be targets, some fans including here on NO latch on to him and dish out unwarranted severe criticism. I will not be surprised if he was in the top 3 players for the most ground covered last Tuesday and no don't come out with stupid comments like you can get anyone to just run around. You need stamina (loads of it), good positional sense and some moderate pace to do the sort of covering that Jonas does, not just any fucker can do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE690 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 This sums up how I feel a lot of the time after reading others opinions on threads like these Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Can't cross, pass, shoot or run. Mick's right, how bad could he be? He can cross, he can pass, he can shoot and he can run. He's going through a bad patch and he'll come through it. I don't think any of our players have played in as many different positions as Jonas has for us and I'm not surprised that his game has suffered for it. He puts loads of effort into games, even when things aren't going well for him. Of the 4 things running is the only thing he can do at the moment It's not a bad patch, patches last a few games not all season. I like the guy and I hate seeing him play like this BUT we have to accept he just has nothing significant to offer. At his best he couldn't cross or shoot, his passing was okay BUT now that has gone to pot, he just runs around struggling to beat a man and struggling to make a decent pass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 He looked pretty decent last season when he would link up with Hatem and they'd do some nice one touch passing, so maybe there's hope for him if he can slot back into the middle. Unfortunately however, he's way down in the pecking list to appear in the CM role, so I'm not really sure what we can do with him :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 He is not even close to as bad as people make him out on here to be. Would I start him? Probably not at the moment. But, as I have a few times before, if we are playing 4-2-3-1, we sure as hell need one of our wingers (if not both) to be offering cover to our full backs. In this regard, he is exceptional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Santon ends up being the winger and the full back when he's partnering Jonas. He's currently in very bad form and has seemingly lost the only thing he really had going for him: pace. He's no use in the team now and he either needs to lose some weight, become as thin as when he joined or just get to work in the gym on his legs. Either way, he is a liability on the pitch both when we need a goal and when we need to defend one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Santon ends up being the winger and the full back when he's partnering Jonas. Santon has been a poor defensive fullback a lot this season. If anything Jonas does his job for him. Don't remember the last solid defensive performance from Santon without Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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