Dokko Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Played his part today, wish it wasn't just a one off, which it will be. Hoping that scrape down the leg is the catalyst he needs to get some fire in him. Been going brought the motions for far too long with his place unchallenged. Competition may have him worried. You said he was as useless as Alan Smith was last season, he's proved you wrong within a week or so and your still feel the need to be negative. Not saying he's worthy of a first team place, but he definitely adds something to our squad, especially in games like this against strong opposition. As for the people saying his crossing was the only thing letting him down today. he did put in the best cross of the match. He proved me right the day after at villa. I'm happy to be proven wrong but Its one game in about a year. Be nice to see it happen again but in not holding my breath, but saying that I felt the fire from him today and even at villa where he was dreadful, he wanted it and tonight I worry a little less about Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Played his part today, wish it wasn't just a one off, which it will be. Hoping that scrape down the leg is the catalyst he needs to get some fire in him. Been going brought the motions for far too long with his place unchallenged. Competition may have him worried. You said he was as useless as Alan Smith was last season, he's proved you wrong within a week or so and your still feel the need to be negative. Not saying he's worthy of a first team place, but he definitely adds something to our squad, especially in games like this against strong opposition. As for the people saying his crossing was the only thing letting him down today. he did put in the best cross of the match. He proved me right the day after at villa. I'm happy to be proven wrong but Its one game in about a year. Be nice to see it happen again but in not holding my breath, but saying that I felt the fire from him today and even at villa where he was dreadful, he wanted it and tonight I worry a little less about Jonas. Right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Played his part today, wish it wasn't just a one off, which it will be. Hoping that scrape down the leg is the catalyst he needs to get some fire in him. Been going brought the motions for far too long with his place unchallenged. Competition may have him worried. You said he was as useless as Alan Smith was last season, he's proved you wrong within a week or so and your still feel the need to be negative. Not saying he's worthy of a first team place, but he definitely adds something to our squad, especially in games like this against strong opposition. As for the people saying his crossing was the only thing letting him down today. he did put in the best cross of the match. He proved me right the day after at villa. I'm happy to be proven wrong but Its one game in about a year. Be nice to see it happen again but in not holding my breath, but saying that I felt the fire from him today and even at villa where he was dreadful, he wanted it and tonight I worry a little less about Jonas. Right What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 The passion he showed, man. I'm sorry, no matter how shit he is, I can't bring myself to criticise him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Seems Pards was right about first teamers needing the competition to get them fired up. I was slagging him off no end to mate when he was in the team... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Played his part today, wish it wasn't just a one off, which it will be. Hoping that scrape down the leg is the catalyst he needs to get some fire in him. Been going brought the motions for far too long with his place unchallenged. Competition may have him worried. You said he was as useless as Alan Smith was last season, he's proved you wrong within a week or so and your still feel the need to be negative. Not saying he's worthy of a first team place, but he definitely adds something to our squad, especially in games like this against strong opposition. As for the people saying his crossing was the only thing letting him down today. he did put in the best cross of the match. He proved me right the day after at villa. I'm happy to be proven wrong but Its one game in about a year. Be nice to see it happen again but in not holding my breath, but saying that I felt the fire from him today and even at villa where he was dreadful, he wanted it and tonight I worry a little less about Jonas. Right What? He did ok vs Villa. Nothing spectacular, but still a fair way better than Alan Smith ever managed for us in his last season. Jonas is a useful squad member, why do you have a problem facing up to this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Think the renewed competition in the squad has a a lot to do with it, he knows he can no longer put in the very average performances he has been of late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Look, he scored today and well done. But other than the goal, he was his normal self. His crossing was atrocious, his passing was poor but his effort and tracking back were (as always) good. Let's not start heralding this as some kind of second coming. He was his usual self, apart from one header. If we could count on him to score 10 a season, I could put up with his deficeincies. But that was his first, and even if he plays every minute until the end of the season we all know deep down that we're unlikely to see even one more between now and May. Still, good goal from him, great win, let's enjoy the positives for one night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Look, he scored today and well done. But other than the goal, he was his normal self. His crossing was atrocious, his passing was poor but his effort and tracking back were (as always) good. Let's not start heralding this as some kind of second coming. He was his usual self, apart from one header. If we could count on him to score 10 a season, I could put up with his deficeincies. But that was his first, and even if he plays every minute until the end of the season we all know deep down that we're unlikely to see even one more between now and May. Still, good goal from him, great win, let's enjoy the positives for one night. You expect a wide player/midfielder to chip in with 10 goals before you consider them decent squad members? Well, I guess we have different expectations? His crossing was atrocious you say? Did you miss his left footed cross that was perfect for Cisse on the near post? He's not just a grafter, don't see why people convince themselves he is, just because he's the new scapegoat.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Look, he scored today and well done. But other than the goal, he was his normal self. His crossing was atrocious, his passing was poor but his effort and tracking back were (as always) good. Let's not start heralding this as some kind of second coming. He was his usual self, apart from one header. If we could count on him to score 10 a season, I could put up with his deficeincies. But that was his first, and even if he plays every minute until the end of the season we all know deep down that we're unlikely to see even one more between now and May. Still, good goal from him, great win, let's enjoy the positives for one night. You expect a wide player/midfielder to chip in with 10 goals before you consider them decent squad members? Well, I guess we have different expectations? His crossing was atrocious you say? Did you miss his left footed cross that was perfect for Cisse on the near post? He's not just a grafter, don't see why people convince themselves he is, just because he's the new scapegoat.. It's really his crossing that's the problem though mate, he must have hit the first man with half a dozen crosses as i'm watching the game back now. You can't just pick out one good one from that lot. His job is as a winger, if he gets his crossing better then he plays and deserves too, everything else, workrate, teamwork etc warrants it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Look, he scored today and well done. But other than the goal, he was his normal self. His crossing was atrocious, his passing was poor but his effort and tracking back were (as always) good. Let's not start heralding this as some kind of second coming. He was his usual self, apart from one header. If we could count on him to score 10 a season, I could put up with his deficeincies. But that was his first, and even if he plays every minute until the end of the season we all know deep down that we're unlikely to see even one more between now and May. Still, good goal from him, great win, let's enjoy the positives for one night. Still pissed off about the team selection mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Feel abit sorry for him, think his legs have gone, his heart passion and desire are still there and he loves the club, not just another foreign mercenary, enjoy your goal and night jonas lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Look, he scored today and well done. But other than the goal, he was his normal self. His crossing was atrocious, his passing was poor but his effort and tracking back were (as always) good. Let's not start heralding this as some kind of second coming. He was his usual self, apart from one header. If we could count on him to score 10 a season, I could put up with his deficeincies. But that was his first, and even if he plays every minute until the end of the season we all know deep down that we're unlikely to see even one more between now and May. Still, good goal from him, great win, let's enjoy the positives for one night. You expect a wide player/midfielder to chip in with 10 goals before you consider them decent squad members? Well, I guess we have different expectations? His crossing was atrocious you say? Did you miss his left footed cross that was perfect for Cisse on the near post? He's not just a grafter, don't see why people convince themselves he is, just because he's the new scapegoat.. It's really his crossing that's the problem though mate, he must have hit the first man with half a dozen crosses as i'm watching the game back now. You can't just pick out one good one from that lot. His job is as a winger, if he gets his crossing better then he plays and deserves too, everything else, workrate, teamwork etc warrants it. How many good crosses did our other players put in, or the Chelsea players for that matter? Crosses is always a numbers game. Agreed, Jonas is not very good at it, but he has other qualities that make him valuable as a squad member at the very least, and sometimes he does come up with a good cross/finish. Again, I'm not advocating starting him ahead of the likes of Marveaux or Ben Arfa, I just get annoyed when people say we should just let him go for free as he is completely useless nowadays, which he clearly isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Feel abit sorry for him, think his legs have gone, his heart passion and desire are still there and he loves the club, not just another foreign mercenary, enjoy your goal and night jonas lad Tbf his legs looked fine today, chased and chased and didn't run out of steam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 So he pissing should. Graft is the only thing he brings to the team. Lets praise Tim Krul for diving at the odd ball while we're at it. http://i46.tinypic.com/vzej5y.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Not bothered about his crossing tbh, its his passing, touch and quite frankly when we are trying to counter he slows the pace right down akin to how Simpson use to. This is about his performances this season btw. He was actually really good today and i felt he looked a lot more comfortable on the right which was pleasing to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 He looked the player we came to love last season. Retained possession, got stuck in, won a few free kicks etc. He just scored the all important first goal and celebrated like a man who was so desperate to show he still had something in the tank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 His celebration embodied everything that I felt today. Never seen a player go ape shit as he did having scored. Beautiful feeling for him, and couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Not bothered about his crossing tbh, its his passing, touch and quite frankly when we are trying to counter he slows the pace right down akin to how Simpson use to. This is about his performances this season btw. He was actually really good today and i felt he looked a lot more comfortable on the right which was pleasing to see. He crossing could be better, he gets into good positions then seems to run out of ideas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Aye it could be but honestly its the least of my concerns tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 His end product has always been questionable though, it's not like this is a recent development. It took him over a year to score a goal for us. He may have been below par this season but he still gives about as much as he can and his major strength is workrate and tenacity. We need that in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Back to his crossing he hit a brilliant first time cross today which was his into the middle at pace when he didn't have time to think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 His end product has always been questionable though, it's not like this is a recent development. It took him over a year to score a goal for us. He may have been below par this season but he still gives about as much as he can and his major strength is workrate and tenacity. We need that in the team. Jonas never hides, he's always showing for the ball and always tries, even when things aren't going well for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Think what struck me the most about him today was that he looked a lot sharper. Last few games it seemed like he didn´t have any reflexes. Reacted very slowly to all situations (passes, opposition players turning etc), which resulted in some very basic mistakes such as trapping a ball from a relatively easy pass. Still, I´d prefer Anita or Marveaux a head of him for the next game, but I won´t throw the toys out of my pram when Padre selects him like I did today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Crossing aside, he was fantastic today. Passing and awareness on a different level to what we've seen so far. Was like the Jonas of old. Loved it when he burned Terry on the break. Missed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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